Mycenaean Times: Chronology and Greek History By Vern Crisler Copyright, 2004 1. Homer & Schliemann: The two incidents that Courville finds of most value for...
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DavRice@...
davricey
Nov 21, 2004 6:10 am
Very interesting. Troy and Myceanean civilization are unfamiliar areas for me. Hope you go slow and connect the dots for interested but not well informed ...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Nov 21, 2004 7:27 pm
... areas for ... well informed ... I'll try, but I may not always be able to tell when dots need connecting (due to overfamiliarity with the material). If I...
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driver40386
Nov 22, 2004 10:49 pm
... ships, ... Excellent review. I missed the date of the destruction of Troy VIh, according to Wood, "In Search of..." "The heyday of Troy VI (phases d-g)...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Nov 23, 2004 7:36 am
... wrote: <snip> ... I will argue in the next few posts that the Fall of Troy--hence Troy 6h--took place around 966 B.C. Wood's dates are based upon ...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Nov 23, 2004 10:51 pm
In a message dated 11/22/2004 11:39:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... What would the signs of earthquake be? An army aiming to destroy a city would do similar...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Nov 23, 2004 10:52 pm
In a message dated 11/22/2004 11:39:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... If Troy of Homer fell c. 966 BC, and the Amazons came through about 100 years before, that...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Nov 24, 2004 10:49 pm
... That would be up to the excavator to determine. However, Wood did call attention to the shifting of the wall's foundations, etc. "Blegen soon became...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Nov 24, 2004 10:52 pm
... It's hard to comment on what you say, because you haven't provided any references or citations. That would be helpful to us who only have a cursory...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Nov 25, 2004 8:23 pm
In a message dated 11/24/2004 2:55:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... Well, briefly, the only sources of any reliability are Homer, Diodorus Siculus and...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Nov 25, 2004 8:23 pm
In a message dated 11/24/2004 2:53:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... Of course, what is to keep invaders from taking advantage of an earthquake? You could have...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Nov 26, 2004 11:09 pm
Happy Thanksgiving, may God bless you and your various projects in Jesus, Mary Christine Erikson Moderator Note: I share the sentiments. However, due to the...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 2, 2004 3:34 am
3. Herodotus and Greek Chronography Greek history--or rather historiography--begins with Herodotus. It is to him that scholars first turn in their attempts...
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bergendelperon
Dec 2, 2004 10:54 pm
Hello Vern, Your last two previews of Troy and the dating problem have been very interesting, referring to the article by Burkert and Forsdyke's book. You ...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 5, 2004 5:18 am
... Yes I'm familiar with CoD, and I will be discussing it in coming weeks. They have a good discussion of many of the issues of Greek chronology, though I ...
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driver40386
Dec 8, 2004 3:39 am
... Hello Vern. Yes, normally I do not see a problem with this view, I think we can detect this also in biblical texts where contemporary experiences are ...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 8, 2004 3:46 am
... I agree that in the biblical text contemporary experiences are intermingled with ancient recollections. However, I see nothing in the biblical texts about...
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Opuslola@...
ronaldlhughes
Dec 8, 2004 10:47 pm
Certainly you must have a considerable problem with this statement found in the Bible. You cannot tell me of any reason a chariot would be made of iron, ...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 8, 2004 11:06 pm
... found in ... of iron, ... manufacture. It ... reasonable ... motorized tank! ... and the ... break into ... for a "war ... and others of ... See message...
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bergendelperon
Dec 10, 2004 9:51 pm
... " Certainly you must have a considerable problem with this statement found in the Bible. You cannot tell me of any reason a chariot would be made of...
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Opuslola@...
ronaldlhughes
Dec 10, 2004 9:53 pm
Vern, I believe I was referring to the Iron Chariots of Sisera in the famous battle with the Hebrews. Have you ever heard of the so called "armored laagers"...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 11, 2004 4:00 am
... the famous ... "armored ... Don't know much about Charlemagne's military patterns and practices. According to the Englishman's Concordance, there are at...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Dec 11, 2004 4:33 pm
In a message dated 12/10/2004 8:01:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... And then again, possibly not. Iron might have phased in slowly in small bits here and...
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Opuslola@...
ronaldlhughes
Dec 11, 2004 4:33 pm
Bergen, a very thoughtful response. But according to my sources the "last" nation in the world to use the chariot were the Persians, and they were the first...
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Michael Joe Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 11, 2004 11:34 pm
I rather suspect that chariots of iron were not solid iron, but had iron in them. You are right that iron did not replace bronze all at once, but gradually as...
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driver40386
Dec 11, 2004 11:34 pm
... assume ... which ... mean ... Certainly, and I had always 'guessed' that it referred to iron sheathing around the wheel (iron tires), we see them all the...
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Vern Crisler
verncrisler
Dec 11, 2004 11:52 pm
4. The Spartan King List All chronological roads point to the Spartan king list as the key to solving the puzzle over the date of the Trojan War. To quote...
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Bill Johnston
hakotoko
Dec 17, 2004 10:52 pm
I came across this story today, and was wondering what, if any, historical events this can be related to. http://www.news-about-space.org/story/2409.html ...
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Infowolf1@...
infowolf1
Dec 18, 2004 5:30 am
In a message dated 12/17/2004 3:01:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... Sounds about right for The Flood or for some aftershock to so speak. The Jewish calendar...
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Michael Joe Thannisch
mjthannisch
Dec 18, 2004 11:14 pm
A most interesting article. Some brief comments. First Radiocarbon dating is only accurate if the amount of C14 in the atmosphere is constant, which has not...
