so you're still talking about single atoms right? Exacly how much energy can you
get out of this?

No. The system we have been talking about does
not use Single atoms!!! It simply accelerates an
existing ion drive to higher velocities.The system could
use an atomic power soarce simular to the ones used
on nucleur powered submarines for the electricty to
power the Electromagnets.

well I haven't done much research into ion drives
so simply accelerating an existing ion drive is
quite difficult to imagine. I'll look into it some time
though. I've got exams coming up next week so I'll be
looking into year 11 physics in the mean time :)

what about using cold fusion or some other source of "free-energy, over-unity"as
source of energy or power?  more info on this on www.keely.com

oooooooooops that is wrong the correct adress is www.keelynet.com

A friend I have met here on line has this site.
Some of you may find very interesting. It's at
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/gglatz64/index.html
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/gglatz64/index.html</a> click on the UFO
hyperlink & the one below it,
the anatomy of a UFO. <br> Enjoy

You are right on target Ed. For example the
technology I've shared in this club is close to cold fusion
, but I admit i'm not totally knowledgable as to
the correct defines of cold fusion. I can say this,
the energy building section of the engine does not
get very hot like the somewhat simular lightcraft.
This section of the craft is only for developing a
strong power that is eventually a wave energy that works
in conjunction with gravity in an atmosphere like
ours, but at different power levels & configurations
with other components in the ship, it can ride light
waves at multiples, & even generate a passageway
through space.<br> The ship itself is as a form of
overunity, whereby once it is started it can continue to
operate on self sufficiency not needing fuel, because,
science tells us you always loose something when
changeing from one form to another, but if you have access
to the forms of energy where it goes , then you use
that form to integrate the system, them you only gain.

On 6/7/00, I was in worship & prayer from about
1AM til about 3 AM, then when I turned in bed to rest
close to my wife, I began having a vision about the
fabric of space.<br> I saw an area of outer space that
was shown as an example like sand.<br> The normal
space was shown like regular sand on a beach, then
there was an area in the sand that became so thin you
could fall through it, like as into sinking sand; But
into space into another space.<br> In the area that
was thin, It looked like a bubble or round
concentrated area of sand popped down through to another
place.<br> As giving example of how the fabric of space has
areas that get very thin and an annomally can be
concentrated in the thin area to build enough density in that
thin space to pop or drop through space into another
place.

It is my thought on light, that light is an
omnipresent life organism, that manifests in different
frequencies at different times & places. Kind of like having
a giant who only has tiny fractions of his skin
visable at different times & places.<br> I think of light
more like water & electricity, which share some
obvious properties, like seeking the path of least
resistance.<br> Light,I think, is an omnipresent conduction of
eternal life that carries a flow of current in a
different form than say ,electricity or water current.<br>
Like the electrons move a current in copper wire but
the copper or rather the electrons themselves are
remaining in the same place, ( as a small example of the
omnipresent body,if you could imagine an endless copper
wire)<br> This is my explanation of the finding of light
being 300xs faster than 186,000 mps + being found in
two places at once. Because i figure the fabric of
light is omnipresent and the effects of its form of
current are manifest & detected now faster than light &
in multiple places at the same time.<br><br> Yours
seriously, ufolight

i have not looked over all your's and other's
about your or somebody's light craft so could you maybe
explain more of it i mean the fundementals or basics?
almost sounds like your talking about a pliedian beam
ship but can you tell me in what way or how this
method of propulsion works in conjuction with gravity?
does it work with aether that appearantly john keely
used to fly his aeriel navigator, propellor or zero
point energy or maybe radiant energy like tesla had
described or discovered?

i have not looked over all your's and other's
about your or somebody's light craft so could you maybe
explain more of it i mean the fundementals or basics?
almost sounds like your talking about a pliedian beam
ship but can you tell me in what way or how this
method of propulsion works in conjuction with gravity?
does it work with aether that appearantly john keely
used to fly his aeriel navigator, propellor or zero
point energy or maybe radiant energy like tesla had
described or discovered?

Well, there are an awfull lot of messages to
muddle through, so to answer your most direct question;
The end products of the engine and what it does
depends on where you are useing it and what you need to
do, for what is happening.<br> In an atmosphere like
ours for example, there is a wave generated that can
null the effects of gravity to hoover, or go into
different volumes of harmonic resonance for mobility, but
also in conjunction with other generations of energy
that work together determining speed and
direction.<br> There is a use of tuning to multiples in magnetic
poles of light .They are just beginning to see more
about what light really is, but its more like trying to
think we see while looking at eternity through a
pinhole.<br> The engine power soarce is light, while the
output is a condensed wave. It's very hard to say
anything that will give you a clear vision of what I'm
talking about, but I will admit I don't know everything
about it. I have recovered this technology by the
recall of being shown on board the craft we were taken
in back in 1966. I was in fellowship with another
who was also on that ship, who also realized the
ability to see things remotely, together over a years
time we got the basic design worked out with a general
idea of whats happening, but the design is very
complex, & hard to just say, after all, Ive got over 400
pages of notes on the project. I dont know how to
properly explain how it works without having a language
that combines several dimensions together at once.<br>
One main reason for this club, is to atract &
stimulate recall in others who had been given the same
escort through their ships technology.<br> I have met
several who seem to know the same things, just like the
persentage of abductees who recall technology.<br> If I have
recieved everything correctly, which is more likly than
not, telling the whole thing to the general public is
an absolute no no. There is a configureation the
engines can be set at to generate an opening to a hallway
between dimensions, & done in our solarsystem would be
devastating. Same reason we dont license 6 year olds to drive.

sounds sort of too much of a hazard to deal with
so would you know of a safer and more practical
method of antigravity propulsion such as one that is not
going to create a hole or warp in space time and
destroy the earth or other worlds in our system or
attract meteors and comets or other objects? something
maybe that is smaller enough to fit in our cars, vans,
truck, minivans, boats, etc. and make them fly at cruise
speed in our atmosphre of 300mph-mach 2 or more and
have a rate of climb of 100,000 ft. or more and pull
very high gravity force manuevers and then accelerate
or decelerate to and from any speed and produce no
inertial effects to driver or pilot, passengers? this is
what what i and i hope many others have wanted too for
many years!!

This design is perfectly safe in the hands of the
right people. Even an estees rocket can blow your head
off if your ignorant of the power.<br> But the wrong
people will not gain access to piloting the kind of
craft I refered to. No one who was shown the design
would ever divulge the full information to the general
public, so there's no need for another design.<br> This
design is actually ancient & interacts with a massive
mother ship design, as part of her engine power
source.<br> What I'm refering to is not an option, like I
have authority to change it. I report only as much as
I deem necesary to connect with the other ones who
are to join this league I'm a part of.<br> There are
of coarse many different designs that can do smaller
tasks, like moving about around a planet. Some other
technology is also ancient as the one we were shown & called
"tube technology", then latter found it too was used by
the ancients, & read of it in old forms on the site
called "The Black Vault". It uses very primitive
energies like scarar waves, nodes & anti-nodes, human to
planetary harmonic wave frequiencies, with a connection to
a spiritual consciousness.<br> In ancient times
they kept structures made of stone or wood at a
stationary location, dealing with also planetary magnetic
grid charts. The modern ones could be made portable
carried in a briefcase.

If light is an organism, then what are the things
that produce light? The parents of light? What is
fire? What are the stars? Traditional science tells us
that they are merely chemical reactions. I'm not
saying that traditional science is now or will always be
correct. But you have to consider where things come from.

You mean like in "Star Wars?"<br><br>OK, nevermind. I'm just being a jackass.

From what I understand, Light does not have to
have a parent or point of beginning. The example is in
the ancient text called the bible, It says god is
light, and that gives light an omnipresent reality we
dont see, and places it in the everlasting with no
beginning & no end.

Present science says: Light what we see with our
eyes is Electromagnetic Energy a small part of the
whole E.M. Spectrum. It is provigated, produced, or
what ever, when mass reachs a perticuler temperature.
And has both wave and partical motion. It does have a
begaining and an end. God is Light, doesn't mean if you
turn on your table light that your turning on or
releasing God. That passage is a metaphor, meaning God is
understanding.

Your right, I wasnt refering to the light/God
thing as a literal but a figurative example of how I
get some of my imagination of how things could be ,
beyond the realms of what we know in the provable
level.<br> My figurative concepts on what could be, are not
relating directly to the levels we preceive about light ,
but I put forth that light is but a manifest presence
of a reality that is a continual at all places at
all times, simular to God , making it that posible as
is the reality of God, And making therefore the
posiblity that there is more to the topic of light then we
should find all the answers in this life.<br> I hope
that adds some better definition to my comments.

Any danger in this, y'think?<br><br><a href=http://parascope.com/en/antimatr.htm
target=new>http://parascope.com/en/antimatr.htm</a>

In my opinion There is a very big danger. They
will not be satisfied until they blow us all up. And I
do not mean the scientists. Everything man invents
is like a to edge sword it cuts both ways. Even if
it was intended for good, Some asshole will find a
bad way to use it.

As I was posting in another club, The way of
producing ufo type propulsion is in harmony with natural
elements & order.<br> In whichever way you generate the
energy fields, you need to get them in motion like the
atom is several parts orbiting making a sphereical
energy. And how we see a galaxy in a spiral with
sometimes energy at 90 degrees spewing out from the
core.<br> How the tornado is a natural very powerful force
of vortex moving around, & how it can even produce
strange annomalies where it seems matter was
dis-integrated momentarily and came back together with an object
caught in it.<br> This is why the need to utilize
gyroscopics so as to keep those very powerful energies from
coming into contact with other parts of ship components,
but not the only reason, their relative.

of how a gyroscope works, click on this link;<br><a
href=http://www.accs.net/users/cefpearson/gyro.htm
target=new>http://www.accs.net/users/cefpearson/gyro.htm</a>

Also, check out these links;<br><br><a href=http://www.gyro-scope.co.uk/
target=new>http://www.gyro-scope.co.uk/</a><br><br><a
href=http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec96/GyroscopeEarth.htm
target=new>http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec96/GyroscopeEarth.htm</a><br><br><a
href=http://www.howstuffworks.com/gyroscope.htm
target=new>http://www.howstuffworks.com/gyroscope.htm</a>

it should be;<br><br><a
href=http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec96/GyroscopeEarth.html
target=new>http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec96/GyroscopeEarth.html</a>

This url will take you there. <a
href=http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal060502.html
target=new>http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal060502.html</a>

According to the latest discovery. Nasa is now briefing the White
House.<br><br><a href=http://www.nasawatch.com/index.html
target=new>http://www.nasawatch.com/index.html</a>

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Hi everyone and thanks for the invite. I'm a new
member from the Houston, Texas area. I always knew that
light could travel faster then they said. Just because
you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't moving. Our
physics is based on a planet with its gravity and
limitations. Out in space away from the influences of stars
and planets it is probably a differant ballgame all
together. My prediction is that there is no limit to speed
and time is not a factor.<br><br>Mike