I have 8 other clubs that I started which you can easily find by clicking on my
name above.<br>   These could add a bit of interest for you.

My most sincere wish's for everyone, that this
new year 2001 finds all of you in a better state of
health and finance and fulfillment than ever before. May
God Bless & have a safe and enjoyable time.

When you go here , there are 2 red colored
hyperlink squares, the left one doesn't work,<br> Go to the
right one to see the video of an interview with Martyn
Stubbs about strange space things
.<br><br><br><br><a
href=http://sites.netscape.net/ufodetective/page3ufology.html
target=new>http://sites.netscape.net/ufodetective/page3ufology.html</a>

My name is bob ryan from youngstown ohio.I am
building a SETI station designed to look for alien probes
in our solar system. Feel free to visit my family
website
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/smithryan.geo
target=new>http://www.geocities.com/smithryan.geo</a><br><br>Click "SETI" and
then look for the "Solar System
Mapping Project".<br><br>You folks look as if you have
some interesting conversations, I look forward to
joining in.<br><br>Bob Ryan

Dont forget to scroll down and click on Founders Home Page; or just do it here
at<br><a href=http://members.spree.com/technology/ufolight
target=new>http://members.spree.com/technology/ufolight</a>

Did any of you catch the tv airing friday 1/5/01
about the Kecksburg Pa ufo event?<br> I looked into a
few things about it, and found this 92 minute video
on it at<br><a href=http://www.westol.com/~paufo/
target=new>http://www.westol.com/~paufo/</a><br><br>
And I also looked around at this
url<br><a href=http://www.padrak.com/ufo/WEBSITES.html
target=new>http://www.padrak.com/ufo/WEBSITES.html</a>

On the previous post, in the 2nd url, I especially like this one<br><a
href=http://www.padrak.com/agn/ target=new>http://www.padrak.com/agn/</a>

arent we all here to try and teach each other for a beterment of some kind.The
hard part is is trying to find out what some one else needs to be taught and in
what order they need to learn it in

Hello Bryan.Are you in reference to me, or Russ,
or everyone? I know there have been several un
followed up conversations; Will you please let us know
more specifics of you question; then maybe there could
be an answer.<br><br> I personally have only
disclosed about 1/9 of the technology I have , mainly for
reasons others dont care to hear. I have made the web
site; my home page; to give some content for
conversation or question. I hope to be more equipted in the
near future for enough funds through prototypes and
other projects to enable our group "the league" to
fully manufacture our technology.<br> As with most
people, money is always a deterrent.

Most of you are informed about how to distort
gravity; by accessing an atomic gravity wave to amplify
it.<br> One of the main functions of the drive unit in
our technology does that somewhat.<br> It is not by
actually or literally physically getting ahold of the
mighty gravity wave of an atom, but by imitateing the
effects of it from the micro to the macro levels.<br> I
have given examples like how simplicity of sound
feedback sends its own frequency into runaway; a form of
overunity.<br> I could come right out and give step by step
grafic details of the whole unit and how it interacts
with the powering of a mother ship, But I am under the
authority of "league" discipline.<br><br> One of my main
goals in this club and the web site , is in contacting
some of the others who were visited like me ,and those
in the league.<br> There has been recent progress in
the contact of others, But it is my hope that some
who are here will find out that they are harbering
information that they didnt know they had.

reality sucks! I've been trying to figure out how
to come up with funds for a project since "92". The
reality of government funds is a joke. This is because we
are in there eyes. If they don't know then we can't,
Right?.Keep dreamin, I'm not given up.Never surrender!!
Mahoney

How much money do you need?

Why, Are you able to offer funds for development?

Does anyone here get any concept of the reality
of the antigravity drive unit technology by what I
have posted here in this club, and in my founders home
page?<br><br> I dont seem to get much of any replies to these
kind of posts.

To my other club called "Strange Unusual True or
Not".
at<br><a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/strangeunusualtrueornot
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/strangeunusualtrueornot</a> <br> I have
a cool post today called
"Psychokinetic Energy & Powers "<br> I hope you check it out.

I have started a club along more general subject
lines, nonetheless, still focusing on technology. You
are all invited to join it; the name is
AtlanteanTechnologies. We have a few members, but need more to keep
information flowing, please learn w/ me and my fellow club
members. See you there!

If you want us to get to you, you could have done this;<br><a
href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlanteantechnologies
target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/atlanteantechnologies</a>

I tend to throw things out in general lately to see if anyone has had a simular
experiences

Not all inventions are with us... you want an
amusing electric-microwaves device ?<br><br>You will
need: an insolated cab, air pipelines, a magnetron, air
extractors, a container with water, special wires, a battery,
an insolated box.<br><br>The matter is, that the
natural air been extracted > the air pipelines conduct
it onto the stemed box, where the high frequency of
the<br>microwaves "will boil" the air here > we will have a
plasma at high pressure and hot > conduct it where
you want make the force <br>(Is necessary some
devices for make it) > the plasma act like an
invisible propeller that don't pollute (but the things near
the device, will be<br>affected by the residual
microwaves and by the extremely hot air), caution
please.<br>If it is not enough, you can choose atomic power or
some special lamps. <br>However you can try sea water
as propeller in your submarine travels.<br>The water
of the container is for to clean the pipelines, or
for to travel at Moon or Mars... or for to make funny
clouds of colours !<br>CAUTION: the cab must be enterely
insolated, if it is not, your future children may be
"differents".<br><br>___________________________________________________________\
_________________________________________<br><br>Do you want a drawing of it ?
e-mail me, no GIFs
allowed
here.<br><br>___________________________________________________________________\
_________________________________<br><br>(C) Copyright, the "invisible" society
of the true
RC.<br>FOOTNOTE: Like the "RC" memberships, I'm a person; please,
don't believe its lies: first from Venus, after from
Uranus, and now from<br>the Pleiades or Orion (!!). Don't
believe your fancy dresses. If you believe them, you
don't will look arround your or below the stones or the
seas.<br>Caution, they want change our beliefs, our genetics, and
they give to us false contactees.<br><br>A SHORT
HISTORY <br><br>- 1660, Francis Bacon write "New
Atlantis" and promote the foundation of the Royal
Society.<br>- 1895, H. TEC/\A, "MbI NHBEHTNOHC".<br>- 1910, the
brother Von Sebottendorf :. found the Thule Society
(Where they will come Rosenberg, Feder, Hess...).<br>
Another RC and :. brother, Haushofer, found the Society
of Vril. From these societies will come the
foundation of the... <br>- 1919, NSDAP. (Contradiction ?,
not but planification).<br>- 1941, Her Schriever make
the first non conventional airplanes with chemical
propellers or with electromagnetical devices:<br> Unbekane,
Mirakle, Flugelrad, Vril... Captain Hans Kohler create a
submarine with a like-magnetron.<br>- 1944, the first Foo
Fighters appear.<br>- 1945, the prototypes are now real
devices, but the soon end of the war did that the
inteligentsia puted the projects in a secret and <br> safe
place. The winners of the war grasp the projects... with
the inventors (Operation Paperclip: A. Rudolf, W. von
Braun, Blome,<br> Schreiver...)<br>- 1947, the "first"
flying saucers appear in USA: the american
"inteligentsia" :. have now the same toy that its "brothers"...
that is not rare ?:<br> the first UFO appeared in
Washington state was near a Westhinghouse's nuclear
complex.<br>- Fifties, contactees.<br>- Seventies & Eighties,
"impartial" writters conclude that the alien's visits are
long ago: Pascua, Nazca, Egyptian piramids, Palenque
(...!).<br> New alien-based sects appear.<br>- 1975, the NASA
have in mind the magnetohydrodynamic (MHD)...<br>-
1995, inauguration of the submarine Seawolf, that use
the marine waters as propeller (boiling it with the
nuclear energy). The NASA<br> announce the investigations
of the Lightcraft (by Leik Myrabo), that use the MHD
and that will arrive at 30.000 km/h... but this <br>
project haven't the magnetron in its core, the microwaves
will come from a fix place, and the plasma will be
made out of the machine...<br>- Now, what they have in
mind.

you absolutely CAN post .gifs in the PHOTO album
section to the left side of your
screen.<br>Ginny<br>p.s.,please post .gifs and .jpgs that you have in your own
location, so as not to steal band-width from someone else's
web site. Use a complete URL or dowload from your
computer.

This information may have already been presented
on this board so please forgive if this is
redundant. This is an article written a year ago in "The
Hindu" National newspaper. I don't know if Mr. C. S. R.
Prabhu was able to follow up on his mission to have
these vehicles created but I thought the article in
itself was very significant...<br><br>TIRUPATI, DEC. 15.
`India had a treasure trove of hitech warfare technology
that even the `mighty West' does not possess. The
Brahmastra and Vimana used in the pre-Mahabharata period are
nothing but the earlier versions of today's nuclear
weapons and spacecraft.'
<br><br><a
href=http://www.indiaserver.com/thehindu/2000/12/16/stories/0416201g.htm
target=new>http://www.indiaserver.com/thehindu/2000/12/16/stories/0416201g.htm</\
a>

there seems to be an absince of info on the sixties I wonder why

About your mention of the lightcraft. It was very
exciteing when I saw that device aired on TLC, Because it
has the same technology as one small section of the
central powering of an antigravity engine I started this
club and the founders home page about.<br> I still
have the mail from the communication I had with white
sands and edwards air force base, trying to tell them
they were doing the wrong thing with their lightcraft
device technology.<br> But they eventually quit
conversing with me.

with the right vision and application this
information should prove the space/time bending and warping
of light and applied gravity effects to design time
travel.<br><a href=http://www.cosmiverse.com/science01190104.html
target=new>http://www.cosmiverse.com/science01190104.html</a>

<a href=http://www.news.harvard.edu/science/current_stories/18.Feb.99/light.html
target=new>http://www.news.harvard.edu/science/current_stories/18.Feb.99/light.h\
tml</a><br><br> After you just read these two posted URLs, you
could be in a mindset to comprehend an aspect of the
antigravity engine of this club.<br> Imagine the lightcraft
,( can be viewed in photo section) see it with a
slightly smaller dish upsidedown below the first.With an
onboard laser(not ground based); The two can be moved
close together forming a sphere of laser light inside.
But before that, use large electromagnetic plates
around this centeral unit to be used for maintaining or
reversing polarity as needed, and there are special tubes
placed over the central unit that can take over when the
unit is in sphere mode.<br> This is a tiny tidbit of
info about this part of the upper section of the
engine.

In the article about stoping light, they said light speed was 186,000 miles per
hour, but it's per second.<br> Visit <br><a
href=http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/lightspeed.htm
target=new>http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/lightspeed.htm</a>

From the original writer of this section: I'm
sorry because I'm new in the club and I didn't know how
to send graphics. There is one in the graphic's
album. I have read a reply on lack of info in the
sixties... sorry again but I'm not historian, I only want
express some other directions to investigate
it.<br><br>Also, I have read about the Indian spacecrafts... te
writer must know more about shamanism - psylocibe
spices, and he will know why appear monkies or talkative
birds in the mahabharata or why the cows are sacred in
India.<br><br>My best regards for all.

Welcome to the club yebisannu. I checked out the
picture you posted. Is that your design? If not, do you
know the name of the designer?<br> Some of the
principles as energies are very good,like ;gyroscopics,the
use of magnetron technology,plasma & water. <br> The
conversion of energy and the amplification of it are what is
used in the main drive of what I describe; only
without the use of turbines or blades, but only haveing
waves and light as a propulsion . <br> The design you
show would not as is, go in extreem ways like the zig
zagging ufo's can, but you could work out a mode of
transportation.<br> Thanks for joining and being active, I hope to
keep this club as a place we can share information,
that will be a positive experience.<br><br> ufolight

Scientists Bring Light to Stop <br><br>By
Discovery.com News <br><br>Jan. 18, 2001 — Researchers have
stopped light in its tracks, then released it again, a
feat that could ultimately accelerate the speed of
computing. <br><br>Two independent teams of physicists
reined in light, reports Thursday's New York Times. One
team was led by Lene Vestergaard Hau of Harvard
University and the Rowland Institute for Science in
Cambridge, Mass., and the other by Ronald L. Walsworth and
Mikhail D. Lukin of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for
Astrophysics, in Cambridge. <br><br>A paper by Walsworth, Lukin
and three collaborators, all at Harvard- Smithsonian,
is scheduled to appear in the Jan. 29 issue of
Physical Review Letters, according to the Times.
<br><br>The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second.
Water, glass and crystal slow the speed of light a
little, an effect that bends light rays, allowing, for
example, lenses to focus. <br><br>Using a related effect,
the Walsworth-Lukin team stopped the light in
containers of gas. In this medium, the light became fainter
and fainter, then slowed, then stopped. A second
light flashed through the gas revived the original
beam, reports the Times. <br><br>The light then exited
the chamber with nearly the same properties it had
when it entered. Hau got similar results with her
closely related techniques. <br><br>"Essentially, the
light becomes stuck in the medium, and it can't get out
until the experimenters say so," Seth Lloyd, an
associate professor of mechanical engineering at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is familiar with the
work, told the Times. <br><br>Lloyd added, "Who ever
thought that you could make light stand still?"
<br><br>He said the biggest impact of the experiments could
come in quantum computing and quantum communication.
Both concepts rely heavily on the ability of light to
carry "quantum" information — particles that can exist
in many places or states at once. <br><br>Quantum
computers, which currently exist only in theory, could
accomplish certain operations much faster than existing
machines. For such computers, light is needed to form large
networks of computers. But the light must be stored — at
least temporarily — a difficult problem that the new
work could help solve.

An interesting response from another
club...<br><br>An interesting response from another
club...<br><br>It's the fizz in the physics!<br><br>Light, just a
like a bubble, can be stuck in the proper dense
medium. <br><br>Light does not have a speed. Gravity
"causes" the speed of light, just like gravity makes
bubbles rise. <br><br>Light speed is not a constant as
Einstein said in a curved frictionless fabric of space.
That is pure bunk. Light is a static event.
<br><br>The cosmological constant is about the how gravity
balances the scales of density. The more gravity the more
heat it takes to off set the balance. The less gravity
the less heat it takes. The scale is always constant.
The variable is density of the medium. <br><br>Like a
bubble stuck in thick mollasses, light has now been
stopped too, and proves "the fizz in the phsics". My
motto posted for years across thousands of archived
pages, years before the data. <br><br>You can ignore it
but if the WWW survies history can not be denied.
<br><br>David <br>.