Kent,

We think alike. :) One thing though - you might want to give some moving
blankets a try (instead of the tubs). I pick 'em up cheap at Costco ($12
for two) and they're great for wrapping around those 1200 parts. I keep
two in the truck at all times - they're great for wrapping up all kinds
of astro thingies...

cheers & beers,
Chris

> I (and you) are not shipping them but just transporting them in our
> vehicles, so heavy shipping type cases are not necessary.
> I have been using, what we in the US call, 'storage tubs' which are
simple

Hello Ray,

I think I have wrote two questions in my precedent mail (new ASCOM driver and
parking). With my poor english, I think it will be better if I solve problems
question after question .
So I will beginning with the first question (for the moment, I purpose we forget
park or unpark).
I use ASCOM v5.5 and driver v4.99.43.
I connect PEMPROv2  on the first port of my 3600.
I connect PulseGuide v1.37 on the second port of my 3600. So I could see if
there is movement of my 3600. First, I connect PulseGuide in order to see the
evolution of the coordinates of the mount.
But, When I connect the mount with PEMPROv2, I can hear movement on DEC and RA
axis during a few seconds. So, I can see coordinates of the mount in Pulseguide
that change about few arc-minutes. I don't say it is a problem but I just would
like to know why this movement at the connection (without unpark of course) ?
I have tried to deconnect some advanced option in ASCOM driver (as tracking
mount during unpark or disable PEM) but as I could think, phenomenom is the same
…

Thank you
Stephane

Hello Stephane,

> I think I have wrote two questions in my precedent mail (new ASCOM driver and
parking). With my poor english, I think
it will be
> better if I solve problems question after question .
> So I will beginning with the first question (for the moment, I purpose we
forget park or unpark).
> I use ASCOM v5.5 and driver v4.99.43.
> I connect PEMPROv2 on the first port of my 3600.
> I connect PulseGuide v1.37 on the second port of my 3600. So I could see if
there is movement of my 3600. First, I
connect
> PulseGuide in order to see the evolution of the coordinates of the mount.
> But, When I connect the mount with PEMPROv2, I can hear movement on DEC and RA
axis during a few seconds. So, I can
see
> coordinates of the mount in Pulseguide that change about few arc-minutes. I
don't say it is a problem but I just would
like to know
> why this movement at the connection (without unpark of course) ?

When you connect with PEMPro the mount will be automatically unparked with the
default ASCOM driver settings. PEMPro
should not be sending any movement commands but the unpark operation may
recalculate RA/Dec position depending on the
park operation that you are using.

> I have tried to deconnect some advanced option in ASCOM driver (as tracking
mount during unpark or disable PEM) but as
I could
> think, phenomenom is the same .

Perhaps the 3600 mount does some initialization that I am not aware of. Maybe
Howard will be able to answer that.

It might be helpful if you could zip and upload a driver log file which capture
this event. A new log file is created by
default every time the driver is launched. You can find the log files in your My
Documents folder in the APV2_ASCOM
folder.

-Ray

Ray,

I could see in the ASCOM driver of the log file with PemProv2 that you send at a
moment : ":Mn#" and ":Me#" ... This is why my mount has a movement. And it
normaly stops when ":Q#" is send. So it is normal that I can hear the mount
during this initialisation.

2009-11-24 15:43:31.625: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':Gp#'), RX='327#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.687: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':RG2#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.687: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Mn#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.703: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Me#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.718: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.734: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:26.8#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.843: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
2009-11-24 15:43:31.859: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:00#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.406: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.437: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:03#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.656: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.687: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GZ#'), RX='+48*34:10#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.796: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.812: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:27.8#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.921: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
2009-11-24 15:43:32.937: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:16#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.484: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.515: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:06#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.734: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.765: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GZ#'), RX='+48*33:43#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.875: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
2009-11-24 15:43:33.890: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:28.9#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.000: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.015: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:32#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.562: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.593: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:06#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.718: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Q#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.718: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Q#'
2009-11-24 15:43:34.812: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'

It's just a fact.
But, just for information : Why do you send this information ? (a checkbox I
have not checked in the driver before connect it ?).

Stephane

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Gralak \(Yahoo Groups\)" <yahoo@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Stephane,
>
> > I think I have wrote two questions in my precedent mail (new ASCOM driver
and parking). With my poor english, I think
> it will be
> > better if I solve problems question after question .
> > So I will beginning with the first question (for the moment, I purpose we
forget park or unpark).
> > I use ASCOM v5.5 and driver v4.99.43.
> > I connect PEMPROv2 on the first port of my 3600.
> > I connect PulseGuide v1.37 on the second port of my 3600. So I could see if
there is movement of my 3600. First, I
> connect
> > PulseGuide in order to see the evolution of the coordinates of the mount.
> > But, When I connect the mount with PEMPROv2, I can hear movement on DEC and
RA axis during a few seconds. So, I can
> see
> > coordinates of the mount in Pulseguide that change about few arc-minutes. I
don't say it is a problem but I just would
> like to know
> > why this movement at the connection (without unpark of course) ?
>
> When you connect with PEMPro the mount will be automatically unparked with the
default ASCOM driver settings. PEMPro
> should not be sending any movement commands but the unpark operation may
recalculate RA/Dec position depending on the
> park operation that you are using.
>
> > I have tried to deconnect some advanced option in ASCOM driver (as tracking
mount during unpark or disable PEM) but as
> I could
> > think, phenomenom is the same .
>
> Perhaps the 3600 mount does some initialization that I am not aware of. Maybe
Howard will be able to answer that.
>
> It might be helpful if you could zip and upload a driver log file which
capture this event. A new log file is created by
> default every time the driver is launched. You can find the log files in your
My Documents folder in the APV2_ASCOM
> folder.
>
> -Ray
>

In a message dated 11/24/09 3:40:59 AM, ccurran@... writes:


> Kent,
>
> We think alike. :) One thing though - you might want to give some moving
> blankets a try (instead of the tubs). I pick 'em up cheap at Costco ($12
> for two) and they're great for wrapping around those 1200 parts. I keep
> two in the truck at all times - they're great for wrapping up all kinds
> of astro thingies...
>
> cheers & beers,
> Chris
>

I do use moving quilts, but not for my mounts.
I don't think wrapping an AP1200GTO's RA unit in a moving quilt is
sufficient protection.
It might be if you're putting it on the backseat of a car but not in the
bed of a pickup.
The 'storage tubs' I use are made of a, more or less, rigid plastic and can
be stacked.
I use a VW camper van and the two tubs are stacked between the assembled AP
Portable Pier and rear seat.

Kent


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Oh goodness no - not the bed of the truck! I would never! That's for the
grill and bicycle. I have a crew-cab and almost never have the back
seats "up" - that's where the dogs and astro gear rides. :) The moving
pads/blankets are perfect for this type of travel arrangement.

Those totes you speak of... I've seen some really nice super heavy duty
totes at Lowes recently. Black with yellow lid. The material must be
1/8" think and appears to be extremely rugged. I think they call them
"Moving Tubs" or something like that. Might be worth a look for anyone
needing such a thing.

cheers

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, kgkirkley@... wrote:

> It might be if you're putting it on the backseat of a car but not in
the
> bed of a pickup.
> The 'storage tubs' I use are made of a, more or less, rigid plastic
and can
> be stacked.
> I use a VW camper van and the two tubs are stacked between the
assembled AP
> Portable Pier and rear seat.
>
> Kent
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Stephane,

OK, I see what you are looking at. That is the ASCOM driver's calibration of
N/S/E/W button directions. It moves the
mount for 3 seconds in both north and east to determine the orientation of the
N/S button movements. However, it's not
supposed to run unless you click the Calibrate button. I just took a peak at the
code and it looks like the timer that
controls it is activated when the driver starts. I'll fix this in the next
release. Thanks for reporting this!

-Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
scharbonnel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:26 AM
> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: New ASCOM driver and connexion
>
>
>
> Ray,
>
> I could see in the ASCOM driver of the log file with PemProv2 that you send at
a moment : ":Mn#" and ":Me#" ... This
is why my mount
> has a movement. And it normaly stops when ":Q#" is send. So it is normal that
I can hear the mount during this
initialisation.
>
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.625: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':Gp#'), RX='327#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.687: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':RG2#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.687: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Mn#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.703: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Me#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.718: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.734: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:26.8#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.843: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:31.859: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:00#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.406: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.437: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:03#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.656: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.687: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GZ#'), RX='+48*34:10#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.796: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.812: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:27.8#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.921: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:32.937: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:16#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.484: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.515: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:06#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.734: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.765: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GZ#'), RX='+48*33:43#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.875: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GR#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:33.890: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GR#'), RX='01:02:28.9#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.000: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GD#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.015: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GD#'), RX='+59*12:32#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.562: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GA#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.593: Telescope: Info : CommandString Reply Received
(TX=':GA#'), RX='+53*14:06#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.718: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Q#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.718: ASCOM: Info : CommandBlind TX=':Q#'
> 2009-11-24 15:43:34.812: Telescope: Info : CommandString TX=':GZ#'
>
> It's just a fact.
> But, just for information : Why do you send this information ? (a checkbox I
have not checked in the driver before
connect it ?).
>
> Stephane
>
> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ray Gralak
\(Yahoo Groups\)" <yahoo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Stephane,
> >
> > > I think I have wrote two questions in my precedent mail (new ASCOM driver
and parking). With my poor english, I
think
> > it will be
> > > better if I solve problems question after question .
> > > So I will beginning with the first question (for the moment, I purpose we
forget park or unpark).
> > > I use ASCOM v5.5 and driver v4.99.43.
> > > I connect PEMPROv2 on the first port of my 3600.
> > > I connect PulseGuide v1.37 on the second port of my 3600. So I could see
if there is movement of my 3600. First, I
> > connect
> > > PulseGuide in order to see the evolution of the coordinates of the mount.
> > > But, When I connect the mount with PEMPROv2, I can hear movement on DEC
and RA axis during a few seconds. So, I
can
> > see
> > > coordinates of the mount in Pulseguide that change about few arc-minutes.
I don't say it is a problem but I just
would
> > like to know
> > > why this movement at the connection (without unpark of course) ?
> >
> > When you connect with PEMPro the mount will be automatically unparked with
the default ASCOM driver settings. PEMPro
> > should not be sending any movement commands but the unpark operation may
recalculate RA/Dec position depending on
the
> > park operation that you are using.
> >
> > > I have tried to deconnect some advanced option in ASCOM driver (as
tracking mount during unpark or disable PEM)
but as
> > I could
> > > think, phenomenom is the same .
> >
> > Perhaps the 3600 mount does some initialization that I am not aware of.
Maybe Howard will be able to answer that.
> >
> > It might be helpful if you could zip and upload a driver log file which
capture this event. A new log file is
created by
> > default every time the driver is launched. You can find the log files in
your My Documents folder in the APV2_ASCOM
> > folder.
> >
> > -Ray
> >
>
>
>
>

I made some boxes out of 3/4" and 1/2" Baltic birch plywood, with the lids.
They are lined with 1" firm foam like AP ships them in.   They are slightly
smaller than what comes from AP since it uses less foam, however I made the
DEC box wider so that I can leave the saddle plate on all the time.  The
counter weight shaft also fits in with it.

Did this for both my 900 and 1200.   I would not ship them like this but for
transporting to star parties they are perfect, and take up less space than
the pelican type cases.

The scopeguard DEC case will require you to remove the saddle plate but if
you don't mind spending the money they are pretty nice.  And again they are
just transportation boxes, not for shipping in my opinion.

Dean



----- Original Message -----
From: "AstroDad" <ccurran@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Tranpost boxes for AP1200 ?


> Oh goodness no - not the bed of the truck! I would never! That's for the
> grill and bicycle. I have a crew-cab and almost never have the back
> seats "up" - that's where the dogs and astro gear rides. :) The moving
> pads/blankets are perfect for this type of travel arrangement.
>
> Those totes you speak of... I've seen some really nice super heavy duty
> totes at Lowes recently. Black with yellow lid. The material must be
> 1/8" think and appears to be extremely rugged. I think they call them
> "Moving Tubs" or something like that. Might be worth a look for anyone
> needing such a thing.
>
> cheers
>
> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, kgkirkley@... wrote:
>
> > It might be if you're putting it on the backseat of a car but not in
> the
> > bed of a pickup.
> > The 'storage tubs' I use are made of a, more or less, rigid plastic
> and can
> > be stacked.
> > I use a VW camper van and the two tubs are stacked between the
> assembled AP
> > Portable Pier and rear seat.
> >
> > Kent
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>

Hi Christian,

I own a 900, not a 1200, but FWIW, I decided to go with the Pelican Case
approach.  It may not be optimal (like a custom case from ScopeGard) but
they are rugged, lockable, waterproof, float, and have nice handles and
wheels.  They are big and bulky, however.

http://www.pelican.com/

You could probably ship in them safely, but I haven't done this, and of
course they probably look to thieves like they contain something important!

I got a 1610 for the RA axis (it MAY fit a 1200, not sure), and a 1630 for
the Dec Axis.  The 1630, in particular, is very big (Pelican cases are
waterproof and float...I think I could use it as a raft in a big flood!),
but I needed something this big because leave the rings and mounting plate
on it when I put it away.  It would probably hold the Dec shaft, if I wanted
it to make it heavier, and it may accommodate a 1200 Dec axis, at least
without the plate and rings...

FWIW, I think I got mine at Cases4Less

http://www.cases4less.com/

but prices change (its been a couple of years that I've had mine) and I
don't know about any EU sales/shipping...You should probably research this
yourself...

Good Luck,

Hank

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, christian viladrich <
christian.viladrich@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi ,
>
> I am new on the list.
>
> First some quick words of presentation. I am interested in lunar and
> planetary imaging with my C14 :
>
> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/moon/closeup/closeup.html
>
> solar imaging in various wavelenght with a TOA 150 :
> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/soleil/soleil.html
>
> and finally deep sky imaging with a FSQ and TOA 150 :
> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/neb/neb.html
>
> I have recently invested in an AP1200 because I often have windy
> conditions at my observing sites.
>
> As I don't observe at home I will have to pack the AP1200 in my car to
> go to the observing site. I am currently in the slow process of
> designing two boxes - not too heavy I hope - to put the AR and DEC axis
> in the car...
>
> I have not set up my mind yet on what is the best way to do this, so I
> would be very interested to hear about some examples of boxes to carry
> out the AP1200 in the fields.
>
> Best regards
>
> Christian Viladrich
> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/index.html
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom --

Well, I don't image, so I can't answer many of your questions.  But I do use
GoTo, and aligning via the polar scope works fine for that.

-- Jeff.


From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tomb1818
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:22 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: "New" AP 600E Gotocp2



Nobody know?

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>, "tomb1818"
<tomb1818@...> wrote:
>
> I have just bought a 600E in pristine condition and I have a few questions.
> How is the accuracy of the RA drive train? I haven't been able to find any
references to this.
> What would be the best way to get decent GOTO when you are in the field?
> I understand that there is no modeling capabilities but would the polar scope
alignment be good enough? If not, would getting tpoint allow quick set up?
> I used to image with a 5" f/8 Starfire on a G11, and usually the polar
alignment scope allowed 45 minutes guided shots with no field rotation. It was
not goto though.
>
> One other thing, is there a way to search here? It seems any search will only
display the first page of results.
>
> Thanks!
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Tom,



We did not publish PE specs for the 600EGTO.  We did not have the
sophisticated testing equipment and procedures along with Ray's
wonderful PEMPro program back then.



The GTO servo in your 600EGTO is extremely accurate.  Will polar
alignment using a polar scope be adequate for good pointing?   That
depends on how well you have centered your reticle and how careful you
are with the procedure.   Be sure to download the short Keypad Version
4.17 Addendum from the Tech Support section of our website, even if you
are running older keypad firmware.   The last half of the Addendum is
the "Revised GTO Quick Star Drift Method of Polar Alignment."    With
just a little practice, you will be getting the same level of polar
alignment accuracy you would have with about 2 hours of traditional
drift alignment, and you will be doing so in about 15 - 20 minutes.



Mag. 7 skies!



Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jeff Young
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:09 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: "New" AP 600E Gotocp2





Tom --

Well, I don't image, so I can't answer many of your questions. But I do
use GoTo, and aligning via the polar scope works fine for that.

-- Jeff.

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of tomb1818
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:22 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: "New" AP 600E Gotocp2

Nobody know?

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>, "tomb1818" <tomb1818@...> wrote:
>
> I have just bought a 600E in pristine condition and I have a few
questions.
> How is the accuracy of the RA drive train? I haven't been able to find
any references to this.
> What would be the best way to get decent GOTO when you are in the
field?
> I understand that there is no modeling capabilities but would the
polar scope alignment be good enough? If not, would getting tpoint allow
quick set up?
> I used to image with a 5" f/8 Starfire on a G11, and usually the polar
alignment scope allowed 45 minutes guided shots with no field rotation.
It was not goto though.
>
> One other thing, is there a way to search here? It seems any search
will only display the first page of results.
>
> Thanks!
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Hank,

     Sorry to butt in here - I plan on doing almost the same as you for my
AP-900. However, I bought the Pelican-1620 which seems adequate for the RA
part, even with Roland's  LT2APM Losmandy tripod adapter attached to its
base (with FSA + RPA) . It looks like it will travel safely, inserted
diagonally in the 1620. I plan on using the Pelican 1610 for the DEC part.
Both cases are almost identical, but the latter is about an inch thinner, to
save some trunk space. Also it is nice to have wheels and a handle for the
portage from the car.

     Christian,
     I hope you aren't looking at just one case for the mount. The empty
Pelican cases can weigh about 25 lbs, as much as the mount parts themselves.
But I think the Pelicans are great for the AP mounts, in spite of their
bulkiness. I would almost continue using Roland's original cartons for
transport in the car, if they were "plasticized corrugated boxes", rather
than cardboard. They wouldn't last very many trips if they need to be set
down on the snow or dew covered ground. Of course, there are no handles, so
not much use for travel, where there aren't any  "porters".

Joe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank Sielski" <hsielski@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Tranpost boxes for AP1200 ?


> Hi Christian,
>
> I own a 900, not a 1200, but FWIW, I decided to go with the Pelican Case
> approach.  It may not be optimal (like a custom case from ScopeGard) but
> they are rugged, lockable, waterproof, float, and have nice handles and
> wheels.  They are big and bulky, however.
>
> http://www.pelican.com/
>
> You could probably ship in them safely, but I haven't done this, and of
> course they probably look to thieves like they contain something
> important!
>
> I got a 1610 for the RA axis (it MAY fit a 1200, not sure), and a 1630 for
> the Dec Axis.  The 1630, in particular, is very big (Pelican cases are
> waterproof and float...I think I could use it as a raft in a big flood!),
> but I needed something this big because leave the rings and mounting plate
> on it when I put it away.  It would probably hold the Dec shaft, if I
> wanted
> it to make it heavier, and it may accommodate a 1200 Dec axis, at least
> without the plate and rings...
>
> FWIW, I think I got mine at Cases4Less
>
> http://www.cases4less.com/
>
> but prices change (its been a couple of years that I've had mine) and I
> don't know about any EU sales/shipping...You should probably research this
> yourself...
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Hank
>
>

Hello All,
    Hopefully this cloudy, damp, wet weather will end soon and I can begin some
real observing with my new TEC 160 F/7. I have a Mach I mount and, for the time
being, an AP wooden Tripod. Have any of you used the AP Eagle 6 pier with TWO
extensions? Being as creaky as I am I cannot imagine doing with a pier less than
48 inches and I might want it a little higher than that. To do that on The Eagle
6 would require Two of their extensions. Of course, the best deal out there is
the old AP pier with stainless steel cables and legs. Not as pretty but probably
better than the wooden tripod. If an ATS pier came up on Astromart at about 52
inches that would be fine as well. Any experiences with the AP Eagle and two
extensions? Any thoughts?

best,

Jim

Jim:

I do use my Mach I on an AP Eagle pier. And for visual use with the AP 160, I do
use two Eagle extensions to get a comfortable height. (For imaging, I would want
to get the whole rig as close to the ground as practical.)

This works very well (and stable) with the Eagle legs full spread. (With all of
that weight so high off the ground you do not want to pinch the legs in.)

(FYI - For quick visual use, I keep the Eagle with two extension set up by my
front door with a DiscMounts DM-6 on top. It works great with both the AP 130
and AP 160 and setup time is just a couple of minutes.)

Clear skies.

Terry O.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "jimhp29401us" <thefamily90@...> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>    Hopefully this cloudy, damp, wet weather will end soon and I can begin some
real observing with my new TEC 160 F/7. I have a Mach I mount and, for the time
being, an AP wooden Tripod. Have any of you used the AP Eagle 6 pier with TWO
extensions? Being as creaky as I am I cannot imagine doing with a pier less than
48 inches and I might want it a little higher than that. To do that on The Eagle
6 would require Two of their extensions. Of course, the best deal out there is
the old AP pier with stainless steel cables and legs. Not as pretty but probably
better than the wooden tripod. If an ATS pier came up on Astromart at about 52
inches that would be fine as well. Any experiences with the AP Eagle and two
extensions? Any thoughts?
>
> best,
>
> Jim
>

Thanks Terry. Much appreciated.

Jim

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "terrylo" <terry@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jim:
>
> I do use my Mach I on an AP Eagle pier. And for visual use with the AP 160, I
do use two Eagle extensions to get a comfortable height. (For imaging, I would
want to get the whole rig as close to the ground as practical.)
>
> This works very well (and stable) with the Eagle legs full spread. (With all
of that weight so high off the ground you do not want to pinch the legs in.)
>
> (FYI - For quick visual use, I keep the Eagle with two extension set up by my
front door with a DiscMounts DM-6 on top. It works great with both the AP 130
and AP 160 and setup time is just a couple of minutes.)
>
> Clear skies.
>
> Terry O.
>
> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "jimhp29401us" <thefamily90@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >    Hopefully this cloudy, damp, wet weather will end soon and I can begin
some real observing with my new TEC 160 F/7. I have a Mach I mount and, for the
time being, an AP wooden Tripod. Have any of you used the AP Eagle 6 pier with
TWO extensions? Being as creaky as I am I cannot imagine doing with a pier less
than 48 inches and I might want it a little higher than that. To do that on The
Eagle 6 would require Two of their extensions. Of course, the best deal out
there is the old AP pier with stainless steel cables and legs. Not as pretty but
probably better than the wooden tripod. If an ATS pier came up on Astromart at
about 52 inches that would be fine as well. Any experiences with the AP Eagle
and two extensions? Any thoughts?
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Jim
> >
>

Hi Jeff,
Do you just set it up with the polar scope and start using it?  Or do you do a 2
star alignment?

Thanks

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Young <jey@...> wrote:
>
> Tom --
>
> Well, I don't image, so I can't answer many of your questions.  But I do use
GoTo, and aligning via the polar scope works fine for that.
>
> -- Jeff.
>
>
> From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
tomb1818
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:22 AM
> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: "New" AP 600E Gotocp2
>
>
>
> Nobody know?
>
> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>, "tomb1818"
<tomb1818@> wrote:
> >
> > I have just bought a 600E in pristine condition and I have a few questions.
> > How is the accuracy of the RA drive train? I haven't been able to find any
references to this.
> > What would be the best way to get decent GOTO when you are in the field?
> > I understand that there is no modeling capabilities but would the polar
scope alignment be good enough? If not, would getting tpoint allow quick set up?
> > I used to image with a 5" f/8 Starfire on a G11, and usually the polar
alignment scope allowed 45 minutes guided shots with no field rotation. It was
not goto though.
> >
> > One other thing, is there a way to search here? It seems any search will
only display the first page of results.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks Kent for pointing out this interesting option.

Christian

kgkirkley@... a écrit :
> In a message dated 11/23/09 2:02:00 PM, christian.viladrich@... writes:
>
>
>> I have not set up my mind yet on what is the best way to do this, so I
>> would be very interested to hear about some examples of boxes to carry
>> out the AP1200 in the fields.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Christian Viladrich
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/index.html
>>
>
> Christian:
>
> I have been transporting AP1200GTO's to remote dark sites and star parties
> for years.
> I (and you) are not shipping them but just transporting them in our
> vehicles, so heavy shipping type cases are not necessary.
> I have been using, what we in the US call, 'storage tubs' which are simple
> inexpensive ($10 range) plastic storage containers that have snap-on lids. A
> variety of companies make them in various sizes and colors.
> I have one for the RA unit and one for the DEC unit with saddle. I line
> them with high density foam material which keeps the unit from moving around
> during transport. Another nice feature is they stack.
> An added use for them is that once at the dark site, you can turn them on
> their side and place your laptop computer inside to protect it from
> cold/dew/dust....and keep the glow of the screen from bothering others.
>
> Kent Kirkley
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
>

Hi,

I often say to visiting friends my car is part of the accessories of my
telescopes ;-)

Christian


AstroDad a écrit :
> Here's the multi-purpose box I use:
http://www.planetcurran.com/img/truck/_DSC3490-640.jpg
>
> :)
>
>
>
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>

Hi Don,

Pelican cases are nice, I 'll have a look at them.

Thanks

Christian

jockey_ca a écrit :
> HI Christian
> Welcome to the group and hope you enjoy your AP-1200. There are a couple of
options for mount transport boxes. First is a product made by Scope Guard. They
have custom made boxes for the AP 900/1200 mounts
> here is the link http://www.scopeguard.com/
> Second is Pelican Cases 1600 series cases (I believe 1690)can carry both the
RA and DEC axis as well as the DEC CTW shaft. These cases have wheels and
handles that make them easier to move around. The also can be ordered with foam
inserts
> Cheers
> Don
>
>
> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, christian viladrich <christian.viladrich@...>
wrote:
>> Hi ,
>>
>> I am new on the list.
>>
>> First some quick words of presentation. I am interested in lunar and
>> planetary imaging with my C14 :
>>
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/moon/closeup/closeup.html
>>
>> solar imaging in various wavelenght with a TOA 150 :
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/soleil/soleil.html
>>
>> and finally deep sky imaging with a FSQ and TOA 150 :
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/neb/neb.html
>>
>> I have recently invested in an AP1200 because I often have windy
>> conditions at my observing sites.
>>
>> As I don't observe at home I will have to pack the AP1200 in my car to
>> go to the observing site. I am currently in the slow process of
>> designing two boxes - not too heavy I hope - to put the AR and DEC axis
>> in the car...
>>
>> I have not set up my mind yet on what is the best way to do this, so I
>> would be very interested to hear about some examples of boxes to carry
>> out the AP1200 in the fields.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Christian Viladrich
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/index.html
>>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Dean,

Plywood is probably the way to reduce volume and weight to minimum. I
will try some skeches this WE.

Thanks

Christian


Dean S a écrit :
> I made some boxes out of 3/4" and 1/2" Baltic birch plywood, with the lids.
> They are lined with 1" firm foam like AP ships them in.   They are slightly
> smaller than what comes from AP since it uses less foam, however I made the
> DEC box wider so that I can leave the saddle plate on all the time.  The
> counter weight shaft also fits in with it.
>
> Did this for both my 900 and 1200.   I would not ship them like this but for
> transporting to star parties they are perfect, and take up less space than
> the pelican type cases.
>
> The scopeguard DEC case will require you to remove the saddle plate but if
> you don't mind spending the money they are pretty nice.  And again they are
> just transportation boxes, not for shipping in my opinion.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AstroDad" <ccurran@...>
> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:58 AM
> Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Tranpost boxes for AP1200 ?
>
>
>> Oh goodness no - not the bed of the truck! I would never! That's for the
>> grill and bicycle. I have a crew-cab and almost never have the back
>> seats "up" - that's where the dogs and astro gear rides. :) The moving
>> pads/blankets are perfect for this type of travel arrangement.
>>
>> Those totes you speak of... I've seen some really nice super heavy duty
>> totes at Lowes recently. Black with yellow lid. The material must be
>> 1/8" think and appears to be extremely rugged. I think they call them
>> "Moving Tubs" or something like that. Might be worth a look for anyone
>> needing such a thing.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, kgkirkley@... wrote:
>>
>>> It might be if you're putting it on the backseat of a car but not in
>> the
>>> bed of a pickup.
>>> The 'storage tubs' I use are made of a, more or less, rigid plastic
>> and can
>>> be stacked.
>>> I use a VW camper van and the two tubs are stacked between the
>> assembled AP
>>> Portable Pier and rear seat.
>>>
>>> Kent
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi Hank,

Thanks for the information !


Hank Sielski a écrit :
> Hi Christian,
>
> I own a 900, not a 1200, but FWIW, I decided to go with the Pelican Case
> approach.  It may not be optimal (like a custom case from ScopeGard) but
> they are rugged, lockable, waterproof, float, and have nice handles and
> wheels.  They are big and bulky, however.
>
> http://www.pelican.com/
>
> You could probably ship in them safely, but I haven't done this, and of
> course they probably look to thieves like they contain something important!
>
> I got a 1610 for the RA axis (it MAY fit a 1200, not sure), and a 1630 for
> the Dec Axis.  The 1630, in particular, is very big (Pelican cases are
> waterproof and float...I think I could use it as a raft in a big flood!),
> but I needed something this big because leave the rings and mounting plate
> on it when I put it away.  It would probably hold the Dec shaft, if I wanted
> it to make it heavier, and it may accommodate a 1200 Dec axis, at least
> without the plate and rings...
>
> FWIW, I think I got mine at Cases4Less
>
> http://www.cases4less.com/
>
> but prices change (its been a couple of years that I've had mine) and I
> don't know about any EU sales/shipping...You should probably research this
> yourself...
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Hank
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, christian viladrich <
> christian.viladrich@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi ,
>>
>> I am new on the list.
>>
>> First some quick words of presentation. I am interested in lunar and
>> planetary imaging with my C14 :
>>
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/moon/closeup/closeup.html
>>
>> solar imaging in various wavelenght with a TOA 150 :
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/soleil/soleil.html
>>
>> and finally deep sky imaging with a FSQ and TOA 150 :
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/astro/neb/neb.html
>>
>> I have recently invested in an AP1200 because I often have windy
>> conditions at my observing sites.
>>
>> As I don't observe at home I will have to pack the AP1200 in my car to
>> go to the observing site. I am currently in the slow process of
>> designing two boxes - not too heavy I hope - to put the AR and DEC axis
>> in the car...
>>
>> I have not set up my mind yet on what is the best way to do this, so I
>> would be very interested to hear about some examples of boxes to carry
>> out the AP1200 in the fields.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Christian Viladrich
>> http://astrosurf.com/viladrich/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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Hi Joe,

Yes, I was thinking of two boxes, not only one.

This is true the original cartons would be fine is there was just some
plastic protection. I have snow in winter, and some - too much - water
occasionally ;-)

Christian


king
Joseph Zeglinski a écrit :
> Hi Hank,
>
>     Sorry to butt in here - I plan on doing almost the same as you for my
> AP-900. However, I bought the Pelican-1620 which seems adequate for the RA
> part, even with Roland's  LT2APM Losmandy tripod adapter attached to its
> base (with FSA + RPA) . It looks like it will travel safely, inserted
> diagonally in the 1620. I plan on using the Pelican 1610 for the DEC part.
> Both cases are almost identical, but the latter is about an inch thinner, to
> save some trunk space. Also it is nice to have wheels and a handle for the
> portage from the car.
>
>     Christian,
>     I hope you aren't looking at just one case for the mount. The empty
> Pelican cases can weigh about 25 lbs, as much as the mount parts themselves.
> But I think the Pelicans are great for the AP mounts, in spite of their
> bulkiness. I would almost continue using Roland's original cartons for
> transport in the car, if they were "plasticized corrugated boxes", rather
> than cardboard. They wouldn't last very many trips if they need to be set
> down on the snow or dew covered ground. Of course, there are no handles, so
> not much use for travel, where there aren't any  "porters".
>
> Joe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hank Sielski" <hsielski@...>
> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Tranpost boxes for AP1200 ?
>
>
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> I own a 900, not a 1200, but FWIW, I decided to go with the Pelican Case
>> approach.  It may not be optimal (like a custom case from ScopeGard) but
>> they are rugged, lockable, waterproof, float, and have nice handles and
>> wheels.  They are big and bulky, however.
>>
>> http://www.pelican.com/
>>
>> You could probably ship in them safely, but I haven't done this, and of
>> course they probably look to thieves like they contain something
>> important!
>>
>> I got a 1610 for the RA axis (it MAY fit a 1200, not sure), and a 1630 for
>> the Dec Axis.  The 1630, in particular, is very big (Pelican cases are
>> waterproof and float...I think I could use it as a raft in a big flood!),
>> but I needed something this big because leave the rings and mounting plate
>> on it when I put it away.  It would probably hold the Dec shaft, if I
>> wanted
>> it to make it heavier, and it may accommodate a 1200 Dec axis, at least
>> without the plate and rings...
>>
>> FWIW, I think I got mine at Cases4Less
>>
>> http://www.cases4less.com/
>>
>> but prices change (its been a couple of years that I've had mine) and I
>> don't know about any EU sales/shipping...You should probably research this
>> yourself...
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Hank
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

Some fiberglass cloth and epoxy maybe? I've wrapped everything *but*
cardboard - I don't see why it wouldn't work though. You'd have the
original interior with a tuffer exterior.

cheers & beers,
Chris

> This is true the original cartons would be fine is there was just some
> plastic protection. I have snow in winter, and some - too much - water
> occasionally ;-)

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Can anyone suggest a good power supply (battery) for powering these two
components for imaging?  The AP takes a max of 1.2A and I think the STL11000
takes 1.5A but I am not sure.
I would like about 8 hours on a full charge (wishful thinking!)
Is it best to power both from 12V or use a DC to AC converter?

Thanks

Can anyone suggest a good power supply (battery) for powering these two
components for imaging?  The AP takes a max of 1.2A and I think the STL11000
takes 1.5A but I am not sure.
I would like about 8 hours on a full charge (wishful thinking!)
Is it best to power both from 12V or use a DC to AC converter?
Should I taker the 12V from the gotocp2 panel?


Thanks

Don't forget your laptop, most likely will not get 8 hours out of the built
in battery.   And depending on your location you may need a dew control
system too.

The mount draws the least really so a good jump start battery pack might be
plenty for it, and keep the slew speeds low to conserve. I would not put the
camera on the same battery as the laptop and dew controller.    When I did
complete battery operation I did 3 batteries.  Make sure you turn off the
built in battery charger on the laptop as that draws a lot of power.  And
use a 12 volt adapter for it, the inverters are not efficient.

Might have to try different things to see what you can get by with but
nothing worse than to run out of juice in the middle of the night.  If you
are at a really remote site you might consider a small quiet Honda generator
as a backup.

Dean




----- Original Message -----
From: "tomb1818" <tomb1818@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] AP 600e + STL11000 Pwer requirements for the field?


> Can anyone suggest a good power supply (battery) for powering these two
> components for imaging?  The AP takes a max of 1.2A and I think the
> STL11000 takes 1.5A but I am not sure.
> I would like about 8 hours on a full charge (wishful thinking!)
> Is it best to power both from 12V or use a DC to AC converter?
> Should I taker the 12V from the gotocp2 panel?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Thanks Dean. I'm using a netbook with an SSD so the power requirements are quite
low.  I think I will try 2 batteries. I'm trying to make this as easy as
possible!

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Dean S" <dean@...> wrote:
>
> Don't forget your laptop, most likely will not get 8 hours out of the built
> in battery.   And depending on your location you may need a dew control
> system too.
>
> The mount draws the least really so a good jump start battery pack might be
> plenty for it, and keep the slew speeds low to conserve. I would not put the
> camera on the same battery as the laptop and dew controller.    When I did
> complete battery operation I did 3 batteries.  Make sure you turn off the
> built in battery charger on the laptop as that draws a lot of power.  And
> use a 12 volt adapter for it, the inverters are not efficient.
>
> Might have to try different things to see what you can get by with but
> nothing worse than to run out of juice in the middle of the night.  If you
> are at a really remote site you might consider a small quiet Honda generator
> as a backup.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tomb1818" <tomb1818@...>
> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [ap-gto] AP 600e + STL11000 Pwer requirements for the field?
>
>
> > Can anyone suggest a good power supply (battery) for powering these two
> > components for imaging?  The AP takes a max of 1.2A and I think the
> > STL11000 takes 1.5A but I am not sure.
> > I would like about 8 hours on a full charge (wishful thinking!)
> > Is it best to power both from 12V or use a DC to AC converter?
> > Should I taker the 12V from the gotocp2 panel?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
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It also depends on the temperature you have at your observing site

I started with 2 car batteries some years ago ... now I have 4 car
batteries (2 x 60 Ah and 2 x 100 Ah), because during long winter night
(10 hours duration) I may have -10°C.

In summer, 3 batteries are enough.

This for an STL11000 + dew heater + laptop + mount. My laptop draws
certainly a lot of power :-(
I use a DC/DC convertor for the laptop, it seems to be efficient.
Otherwise, all other equipement is on 12VDC.

Christian

Dean S a écrit :
> Don't forget your laptop, most likely will not get 8 hours out of the built
> in battery.   And depending on your location you may need a dew control
> system too.
>
> The mount draws the least really so a good jump start battery pack might be
> plenty for it, and keep the slew speeds low to conserve. I would not put the
> camera on the same battery as the laptop and dew controller.    When I did
> complete battery operation I did 3 batteries.  Make sure you turn off the
> built in battery charger on the laptop as that draws a lot of power.  And
> use a 12 volt adapter for it, the inverters are not efficient.
>
> Might have to try different things to see what you can get by with but
> nothing worse than to run out of juice in the middle of the night.  If you
> are at a really remote site you might consider a small quiet Honda generator
> as a backup.
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> Dean
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:16 PM
> Subject: [ap-gto] AP 600e + STL11000 Pwer requirements for the field?
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>> Can anyone suggest a good power supply (battery) for powering these two
>> components for imaging?  The AP takes a max of 1.2A and I think the
>> STL11000 takes 1.5A but I am not sure.
>> I would like about 8 hours on a full charge (wishful thinking!)
>> Is it best to power both from 12V or use a DC to AC converter?
>> Should I taker the 12V from the gotocp2 panel?
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>> Thanks
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