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#411

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Sat May 31, 2008 7:53 pm
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Fw: Container Shipments From China]

kauaipower

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Just read Johns posting and thought of all the things that are hurting us worldwide and at the home front. Here is one that is making the rich richer and the rest of us going down the tube.

My neighbor is installing a new Outback Power solar power system this week as he said he has had it with power cost. I toured the plant and they build a great product. All sizes and 120/230 VAC, and he is doing his in phases with the 10KW, Solar 110VAC first.

I will let everyone know about it. They make a combo unit too with wind and solar.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

From: Freeman haun [mailto:freemanhaun@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:56 AM
To: Clark Dodge
Cc: Larry Ellington; Joyce; Pat Newnam; Earl Scott; bill smith; Carol Spengler; john thomas
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Fw: Container Shipments From China]

--- On Fri, 5/30/08, Bob Magaffin <rmagaffin@...> wrote:

From: Bob Magaffin <rmagaffin@...>
Subject: FW: [Fwd: Fw: Container Shipments From China]
To: "Al Sears" <adsears@...>, bcarr911@..., nisclay@..., 2dickhall@..., freemanhaun@..., mikehaloski@..., "Mike Lomenick" <bbracers@...>, "Mike Reed" <carltonreed@...>, randem45@..., mcafeest@..., wanze@...
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 9:29 PM

From: Chuck Sturges [mailto:casturges@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:08 AM
To: Snake; Dick Merrell
Subject: [Fwd: Fw: Container Shipments From China]

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	Fw: Container Shipments From China
Date:	Fri, 30 May 2008 19:36:54 -0400
From:	jim perrier <markdatum@...>
To:	paul watters <paulwatters@...>, rob zebroski <zebs3@...>, frank yost <flsunrider@...>, charlie sturges <casturges@...>, gary smith <gesmjs@...>, romeo robitalli <robitair@...>, john j russo <jrusso1646@...>, helen glover <helenoglover@...>, Bill Flippin <usnret@...>, Rita DellaVolpe <teamdell@...>, gary catren <garycatren@...>, erin campbell <erinelizabeth2@...>, buonvino <MBuonvino@...>

And we can't even drill for the oil which is ours.

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: Dororthy Ochsner

To: Markdatum@...

Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:04 AM

Subject: FW: Container Shipments From China

From: Craig Kyle [mailto:craighorn@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:37 PM
To: Craig Yahoo
Subject: Container Shipments From China

SHIPPING FROM CHINA

The Emma Maersk

Please maximize your screen for better viewing.

What a ship....no wonder 'Made in China' is displacing North American goods big time with this floating continent transporting goods across

the Pacific in 4 days, no less!

This is how Wal-Mart gets its goods from China. Get a load of this ship!
15,000 containers and a 207' beam!

And look at the crew-size: 13 people for a ship longer than a U S aircraft carrier which has a crew of 5,000 men and officers.

Think it's big enough?

Notice that the 207' beam means it cannot fit through the Panama or Suez Canals.

It is strictly transpacific. Check out the cruise speed: 31 knots means the goods arrive

4 days before the typical container ship

(18-20 knots) on a China-to-California run.

So this behemoth is hugely competitive when carrying perishable goods.

This ship was built in five sections. The sections floated together and then welded. The command bridge is higher than a 10-story building and has 11 cargo crane rigs that can operate simultaneously.

Additional info:

Country of origin - Denmark

Length - 1,302 ft

Width - 207 ft

Net cargo - 123,200 tons

Engine - 14 in-line cylinders diesel engine (110,000 BHP)

Cruise Speed - 31 knots

Cargo capacity - 15,000 TEU (1 TEU = 20 ft3)

Crew - 13 people

First Trip - Sept. 08, 2006

Construction cost - US $145,000,000+

Silicone painting applied to the ship bottom reduces water resistance and saves

317,000 gallons of diesel fuel per year.

???

Editorial Comment!A recent documentary in late March on the History Channel, noted that almost all of these containers are shipped back to China,EMPTY, yep, you heard it right. We send nothing back on most of these ships. What does that tell you about the current export industry of this country?

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#410

From: "mwwwamzle" <mlwwwamzle@...>
Date: Fri May 30, 2008 5:15 pm
Subject: Prize winning research links fungi with fuel

mwwwamzle

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FYI .....

An Iowa State / U. of Hawaii connection ....

Prize-winning research links fungi with fuel

A research project conducted at Iowa State and the University of
Hawai'i at Manoa recently won the 2008 Grand Prize for University
Research from the American Academy of Environmental Engineers. Team
leader Hans van Leeuwen, an ISU professor of civil, construction,
and environmental engineering, says the process they're developing
could reduce energy costs by as much as one-third. The project
focuses on utilizing fungi to clean up and improve the dry-grind
ethanol production process. Currently, only about half of the thin
stillage (liquid byproduct) created in the process can be recycled.
But when the research team experimented with adding Rhizopus
microsporus, a fungus, into the mix, the thin stillage was able to
be recycled back into the production process. Van Leeuwen says
eliminating the need to evaporate excess thin stillage would save
ethanol plants up to $800 million a year in energy costs and reduce
the ethanol industry's water consumption by as much as 10 billion
gallons annually. The researchers have filed for a patent on the
technology and are currently looking for investors to commercialize
the invention.

#409

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Fri May 30, 2008 2:43 am
Subject: Re: New G&R ethanol plant

andyparx

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Originally it was going to be coal fired believe it or not. that was stopped d/t community opposition but it was more or less "approved" in the early days of ethanol enthusiasm as a reflection of state law.

ebrite_1999 <ebrite_1999@...> wrote:

Hi. I'm a mainlander, but visit Kauai about evry 2 years. I'm also a
private investor. I have been reading about the proposal to convert
the old sugar mill into a ethanol production facility. I was just
wondering if this proposal has the local community behind it, or are
there many unanswered questions. Any news would be of help. Thx

#408

From: "ebrite_1999" <ebrite_1999@...>
Date: Thu May 29, 2008 9:13 pm
Subject: New G&R ethanol plant

ebrite_1999

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Hi. I'm a mainlander, but visit Kauai about evry 2 years. I'm also a
private investor. I have been reading about the proposal to convert
the old sugar mill into a ethanol production facility. I was just
wondering if this proposal has the local community behind it, or are
there many unanswered questions. Any news would be of help. Thx

#407

From: "honeyann123" <honeyann123@...>
Date: Sun May 25, 2008 5:09 am
Subject: Re: Homeowners lookin to get photovoltaic or windmill

honeyann123

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--- In apollokauai@yahoogroups.com, "benergykauai" <ben.sullivan@...>
wrote:
>
Mahalo Ben, I think a reference list would be a very  nice gesture on
behalf of ApolloKauai.

#406

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Fri May 23, 2008 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: Interesting presentation on Hydropower

andyparx

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If you follow any river on Kaua`i upstream you will find a dam and ditch system already built. I know that there is new hydro technology to take advantage of the system without a three gorges set up. It may not be a billion kilowatt dam but I've had "high hopes" for at least some power from this source for 30 years and apparently the technology is coming on line now to lay down generation devices that don't require steam diversion or blockage.

Just some info for thought....

mananalo7 <ezed@...> wrote:

Randy Hee and the rest gave an interesting presentation on hydropower.
It looks like a project like China's Three Gorges Dam is on the back
burner for Kauai. But, I'm not giving up hope for cheap electricity!

#405

From: "benergykauai" <ben.sullivan@...>
Date: Fri May 23, 2008 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: Homeowners lookin to get photovoltaic or windmill

benergykauai

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Aloha,

There are a number of good installers of wind and PV on Island. Apollo
Kaua'i has not taken to recommending specific ones to date, as we have
not gathered enough information to fairly evaluate one installer versus
another. However, we can and should take on the project of simply
listing all the installers people can consider with brief descriptions.

A big component of doing a home scale RE system is the type of
interface with the grid. Net-metering, where electricity is bought back
by KIUC at retail (up to a zero balance) is once again on the chopping
block. Apparently we have reached the one percent penetration cap that
was established as the limit to net-metering, so it is unknown at this
time as to whether the cap will be extended again. This is a somewhat
complicated issue, but there is a reasonable concern that net metering
represents a subsidy to people who own a renewable energy system by
people who do not own one. At this time, you can still, of course,
build an RE system on your home, and KIUC will pay you back at
their 'schedule Q' rate, but it's important to know this when you run
the cost analysis for the system.

Thanks, hope this helps. Keep an eye open for an installer list in a
couple weeks or so.

Ben Sullivan

--- In apollokauai@yahoogroups.com, "honeyann123" <honeyann123@...>
wrote:
>
> I have asked around and no one seems to know of any contrators that
are
> putting up solar panels or windmills for us down home folks.  Any
> referrals would be appreciated.
>

#404

From: "mananalo7" <ezed@...>
Date: Fri May 23, 2008 9:52 am
Subject: Interesting presentation on Hydropower

mananalo7

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Randy Hee and the rest gave an interesting presentation on hydropower.
It looks like a project like China's Three Gorges Dam is on the back
burner for Kauai.  But, I'm not giving up hope for cheap electricity!

#403

From: "honeyann123" <honeyann123@...>
Date: Fri May 23, 2008 8:22 am
Subject: Homeowners lookin to get photovoltaic or windmill

honeyann123

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I have asked around and no one seems to know of any contrators that are
putting up solar panels or windmills for us down home folks.  Any
referrals would be appreciated.

#402

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2008 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: Trendy Used Laptops

andyparx

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Is this spam?

michael_martin32 <michael_martin32@...> wrote:

Looking for a cheap used laptop?

Visit the website to get a sleek and trendy laptop for you at throw
away prices: http://www.bestlaptopsonline.info

#401

From: "michael_martin32" <michael_martin32@...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2008 12:50 pm
Subject: Trendy Used Laptops

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#400

From: "girlakvblog" <girlakvblog@...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2008 11:41 am
Subject: You have 1 new message!

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#399

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Thu May 15, 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Re: FW: Energy savings.

andyparx

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That's downright delusional. Ask Al Gore why he "lost"- he'll tell you it had nothing to do with Nader- Gore willl tell you he couldn't even carry his home state, Tennessee. He'll tell you he ran away from his own precepts. He'll tell you about the illegal disenfranchisement of black and low income voters, especially in Florida. He''ll tell you how he stupidly refused to actually claim the victory he had in Florida according to the actual count of votes. He'll tell you how he personally refused to recognize the motion as Senate head when a senator challenged the certification of the election. And...

I could go on all day- how long should I go on to show the abject ridiculousness of that line of reasoning. So if Hitler and Mussolini are on the ballot w should all vote for Mussolini because at least he's not Hitler?

That "kind of thinking" is why we get crappy people in office- because we accept the limited choices we're told we have to accept. If we all voted for who we really wanted based on the issues we'd have Dennis Kucinich the as Democratic nominee.

And gee whiz those Democrats have really been great- look how the war ended after the 2006 election... why Bush has been impeached and the war authorization has been withdrawn, the troops are home and the Patriot act has been rescinded and....

People who think it was Nader who yielded Bush just won't take personal responsibility for their vote and sell it out to a traitorous do-nothing Democratic Party- the ones who are really responsible for Bush.

Go ahead with the herd... but don't wonder why you get the candidates and incumbants "sheeple" deserve.

Carl Wright <carl.l.wright@...> wrote:

That's exactly the kind of thinking by the Ralf Nader supporters that
brought us eight years of G W Bush and an administration dominated by
oil interests, denial of global warming, bible stories instead of
science, war, torture, trampling of civil rights, no bid contracts,
destruction of our parks, crumbling infrastructure , an economy in
shambles... but what the hell let's go shop.

--- In apollokauai@yahoogroups.com, Andy Parx <andyparx@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know that the Democratic candidates won't essentially do the
same thing. I do know that I can no longer vote for people who will do
the opposite of what we want them to. I have confidence that those four
candidates wouldn't do that. Elected officials don't have to listen to
business people who rob you and your children future for profits - and
they don't deserve to be voted to office if they kow-tow to the private,
special interests.
>
> I'm sick of corporate personhood and control over our governmental
affairs. And it starts with pols who "compromise" clean air, water and
food because someone won't be able to make money by poisoning us.
>
> Clark Dodge clark@... wrote:
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> From: Clark Dodge [mailto:clark@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:04 PM
> To: 'apollokauai@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [apollokauai] Energy savings.
>
>
> No, I didn't but sending it to someone like John McCain or any
of GW's friends will send it directly to the trash can, that you can
"Bank On," as they sure do.
>
> A side not is not to focus on only Green Party Candidates as you
limit you scope, I have been an elected official and you MUST listen to
all, if you ignore anyone who does not feel as you want them to, you
lose and they don't hear what they should.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Clark Dodge, President
> CED Consulting LLC
> 341 Lanakila Rd.
> Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241
> Ph: (808) 245-7183
> Cell: (808) 634-8183
>
> www.cedconsulting.com
> clark@...
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Parx
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: Apollo Kauai
> Subject: Re: [apollokauai] Energy savings.
>
>
> Hi Clark, et. al.
>
>
>
> There's only on person who will be on the ballot this November
running for president who has a sane energy policy- Green Party
candidate former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Actually all four GP
candidates for the nomination have similar positions. One, Jesse Johnson
has been an anti-coal activist in W. VA for many years.
>
>
>
> I hope you sent it to them
>
>
>
> Video: Leave the Oil in the Soil, Cynthia Speaks to the Ecological
Crisis
>
> http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/Leave_the_Oil_in_the_Soil
>
>
>
> http://www.runcynthiarun.org/
>
>
>
> http://www.gp.org/index.php
>
>
>
> Andy Parx
>
>
> Clark Dodge clark@... wrote:
>
> Aloha all.
>
> I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.
>
> Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars. Stop listening to
the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people. People who need a
small electric car will support you. You also need a simple delivery
van with solar panels and a small generator. It would be great for the
post office. Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it
for a lot less than present vans. Solar panels on the roof, plug in
power and the small generator to pick up the slack. All one needs to do
is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean
they are at a steady load.
>
> Clark Dodge, President
>
> CED Consulting LLC
>
> 341 Lanakila Rd.
>
> Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241
>
> Ph: (808) 245-7183
>
> Cell: (808) 634-8183
>
> www.cedconsulting.com
>
> clark@...
>

#398

From: "Carl Wright" <carl.l.wright@...>
Date: Thu May 15, 2008 1:29 am
Subject: Re: FW: Energy savings.

yys2bi4n

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That's exactly the kind of thinking by the Ralf Nader supporters that
brought us eight years of  G W Bush and an administration dominated by
oil interests, denial of global warming, bible stories instead of
science, war, torture, trampling of civil rights, no bid contracts,
destruction of our parks, crumbling infrastructure , an economy in
shambles... but what the hell let's  go shop.

--- In apollokauai@yahoogroups.com, Andy Parx <andyparx@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know that the Democratic candidates won't essentially do the
same thing. I do know that I can no longer vote for people who will do
the opposite of what we want them to. I have confidence that those four
candidates wouldn't do that. Elected officials don't have to listen to
business people who rob you and your children future for profits - and
they don't deserve to be voted to office if they kow-tow to the private,
special interests.
>
>   I'm sick of corporate personhood and control over our governmental
affairs. And it starts with pols who "compromise" clean air, water and
food because someone won't be able to make money by poisoning us.
>
> Clark Dodge clark@... wrote:
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>   From: Clark Dodge [mailto:clark@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:04 PM
> To: 'apollokauai@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [apollokauai] Energy savings.
>
>
>   No, I didn't but sending it to someone like John McCain or any
of GW's friends will send it directly to the trash can, that you can
"Bank On," as they sure do.
>
>   A side not is not to focus on only Green Party Candidates as you
limit you scope, I have been an elected official and you MUST listen to
all, if you ignore anyone who does not feel as you want them to, you
lose and they don't hear what they should.
>
>   Thanks for the input.
>
>     Clark Dodge, President
>   CED Consulting LLC
>   341 Lanakila Rd.
>   Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241
>   Ph:  (808) 245-7183
>   Cell: (808) 634-8183
>
>   www.cedconsulting.com
>   clark@...
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>   From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Parx
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:40 AM
> To: Apollo Kauai
> Subject: Re: [apollokauai] Energy savings.
>
>
>           Hi Clark, et. al.
>
>
>
>     There's only on person who will be on the ballot this November
running for president who has a sane energy policy- Green Party
candidate former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Actually all four GP
candidates for the nomination have similar positions. One, Jesse Johnson
has been an anti-coal activist in W. VA for many years.
>
>
>
>     I hope you sent it to them
>
>
>
>     Video: Leave the Oil in the Soil, Cynthia Speaks to the Ecological
Crisis
>
>     http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/Leave_the_Oil_in_the_Soil
>
>
>
>     http://www.runcynthiarun.org/
>
>
>
>     http://www.gp.org/index.php
>
>
>
>     Andy Parx
>
>
> Clark Dodge clark@... wrote:
>
>             Aloha all.
>
>     I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.
>
>     Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars.  Stop listening to
the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people.  People who need a
small electric car will support you.  You also need a simple delivery
van with solar panels and a small generator.  It would be great for the
post office.  Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it
for a lot less than present vans.  Solar panels on the roof, plug in
power and the small generator to pick up the slack.  All one needs to do
is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean
they are at a steady load.
>
>     Clark Dodge, President
>
>     CED Consulting LLC
>
>     341 Lanakila Rd.
>
>     Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241
>
>     Ph:  (808) 245-7183
>
>     Cell: (808) 634-8183
>
>     www.cedconsulting.com
>
>     clark@...
>

#397

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: FW: Energy savings.

andyparx

Offline

I don't know that the Democratic candidates won't essentially do the same thing. I do know that I can no longer vote for people who will do the opposite of what we want them to. I have confidence that those four candidates wouldn't do that. Elected officials don't have to listen to business people who rob you and your children future for profits - and they don't deserve to be voted to office if they kow-tow to the private, special interests.

I'm sick of corporate personhood and control over our governmental affairs. And it starts with pols who "compromise" clean air, water and food because someone won't be able to make money by poisoning us.

Clark Dodge <clark@...> wrote:

From: Clark Dodge [mailto:clark@argosyacoustics.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:04 PM
To: 'apollokauai@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [apollokauai] Energy savings.

No, I didn�t but sending it to someone like John McCain or any of GW�s friends will send it directly to the trash can, that you can �Bank On,� as they sure do.

A side not is not to focus on only Green Party Candidates as you limit you scope, I have been an elected official and you MUST listen to all, if you ignore anyone who does not feel as you want them to, you lose and they don�t hear what they should.

Thanks for the input.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

www.cedconsulting.com

clark@cedconsulting.com

From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Parx
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:40 AM
To: Apollo Kauai
Subject: Re: [apollokauai] Energy savings.

Hi Clark, et. al.

There's only on person who will be on the ballot this November running for president who has a sane energy policy- Green Party candidate former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Actually all four GP candidates for the nomination have similar positions. One, Jesse Johnson has been an anti-coal activist in W. VA for many years.

I hope you sent it to them

Video: Leave the Oil in the Soil, Cynthia Speaks to the Ecological Crisis

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/Leave_the_Oil_in_the_Soil

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

http://www.gp.org/index.php

Andy Parx

Clark Dodge <clark@cedconsulting.com> wrote:

Aloha all.

I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.

Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars. Stop listening to the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people. People who need a small electric car will support you. You also need a simple delivery van with solar panels and a small generator. It would be great for the post office. Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it for a lot less than present vans. Solar panels on the roof, plug in power and the small generator to pick up the slack. All one needs to do is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean they are at a steady load.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

www.cedconsulting.com

clark@cedconsulting.com

#396

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: FW: Energy savings.

kauaipower

Offline

From: Clark Dodge [mailto:clark@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:04 PM
To: 'apollokauai@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [apollokauai] Energy savings.

No, I didn’t but sending it to someone like John McCain or any of GW’s friends will send it directly to the trash can, that you can “Bank On,” as they sure do.

A side not is not to focus on only Green Party Candidates as you limit you scope, I have been an elected official and you MUST listen to all, if you ignore anyone who does not feel as you want them to, you lose and they don’t hear what they should.

Thanks for the input.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/Leave_the_Oil_in_the_Soil

From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Parx
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:40 AM
To: Apollo Kauai
Subject: Re: [apollokauai] Energy savings.

Hi Clark, et. al.

There's only on person who will be on the ballot this November running for president who has a sane energy policy- Green Party candidate former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Actually all four GP candidates for the nomination have similar positions. One, Jesse Johnson has been an anti-coal activist in W. VA for many years.

I hope you sent it to them

Video: Leave the Oil in the Soil, Cynthia Speaks to the Ecological Crisis

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

http://www.gp.org/index.php

Andy Parx

Clark Dodge <clark@cedconsulting.com> wrote:

Aloha all.

I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.

Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars. Stop listening to the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people. People who need a small electric car will support you. You also need a simple delivery van with solar panels and a small generator. It would be great for the post office. Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it for a lot less than present vans. Solar panels on the roof, plug in power and the small generator to pick up the slack. All one needs to do is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean they are at a steady load.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

www.cedconsulting.com

clark@cedconsulting.com

#395

From: Andy Parx <andyparx@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Energy savings.

andyparx

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http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/Leave_the_Oil_in_the_Soil

Hi Clark, et. al.

I hope you sent it to them

Video: Leave the Oil in the Soil, Cynthia Speaks to the Ecological Crisis

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

http://www.gp.org/index.php

Andy Parx

Clark Dodge <clark@...> wrote:

Aloha all.

I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.

Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars. Stop listening to the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people. People who need a small electric car will support you. You also need a simple delivery van with solar panels and a small generator. It would be great for the post office. Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it for a lot less than present vans. Solar panels on the roof, plug in power and the small generator to pick up the slack. All one needs to do is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean they are at a steady load.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

www.cedconsulting.com

clark@cedconsulting.com

#394

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2008 7:21 pm
Subject: Energy savings.

kauaipower

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Aloha all.

I just sent this to our Presidential candidates.

Please support the Hybrid and Electric Cars. Stop listening to the Oil Company Lobbyists and listen to the people. People who need a small electric car will support you. You also need a simple delivery van with solar panels and a small generator. It would be great for the post office. Many vehicles drive many miles in the sun and could do it for a lot less than present vans. Solar panels on the roof, plug in power and the small generator to pick up the slack. All one needs to do is see how long small generators run on a gallon of gas and how clean they are at a steady load.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

#393

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:07 am
Subject: RE: Solar Hot Water

kauaipower

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Del.

You are so right. I have had Solar HW in Seattle for 20 years, I had a 150 gal storage tank with a 12 gallon, side arm heater with 8 gallons of De-ionized (Distilled,) Water in it and I cleaned and flushed it once in those 20 years just because one of my flow glasses needed changing due to sticking. It used tiny TACO pumps with no seals and magnetic drive. I made so much HW I even used it for House Heating too. My Natural Gas bill went from over $80 a month to $6.00 a month and that was for rental of the gas HW tank. I stored HW at around 200 degrees and mixed it to 130 to feed the present HW tank as back up. We never ran out of HW with family of 5, washer and dryer, dishwasher and lots of baths and showers.

When people tell me they run out of HW here in Hawaii, I question what in the world are they doing? It is not even realistic for Hawaii or the same for Larger instillations and business. I only had three roof panels and it made HW if needed on cloudy days and in the winter. I had to deal with freezing and that is not an issue here, and on a normal day, the water came off the roof at about 210 degrees.

Not only did I do the domestic HW, I heated my 64’ X 20’ pool with 850 Sq. feet of Solar-Roll on my garage for a 35,000 gallon, pool, and that water came of the roof at over 120 degrees.

When people tell me they do not like cold showers, something is VERY wrong. The installs are so simple most people can open a kit and install them selves. Contractors could do them in a few hours and there should be specials, rebates, and incentives to get customers both large and small, private and public to go Solar.

There should never be a tax or a extra charge to install or use Solar. Large business such as Hotels should get a cut in rates in Gas and Electricity to install. As we grow we can not continue to use our Gas & Fuel to waste of generating Electricity. Just think of the Gas that the Hotels must burn to make our Hawaii so pleasant for things like cooking and Tiki torches. They do not need to waste it on HW or Spa heating. Even if they could not heat all the water and need to fall back on Gas, it still cost WAY less to raise HW a few degrees instead all the way from cold water.

Many businesses can even make enough heat to make Fresh Water from Sea Water. There are Co-Gen systems all over the world doing things like this and the savings are great. Some plants generate power, make heat, make FW and heat HW all from the same heat and many time that is just waste heat from the generators cooling system. When we built our new Jumbo Mark II ferries, in Seattle we did that just fine and had a back up Hot Water oil burner heater set to automatic for heating at night or in the shipyard when the main plant was not running. We even had our import generator using it’s cooling to heat the ship and with this we almost never saw the oil fired heaters running.

With the cost of fuel rising almost daily, we MUST do this NOW!

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of laakea77
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:10 AM
To: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apollokauai] Solar Hot Water

Del Alexander
Del Sol Enterprises INC.
Solar installer for 30 years

Solar hot water systems work! How can we motivate the
hotels,
vacation rentals often owned by non-residents, single and mutiple
unit rentals, the upper class fully air condition Mc Mansionites
that seem
to avoid the awful look of solar panels on their pretigous roof?

1. Mandate: sounds like a good starting point.
2. Tax credits: what about the retirees? no income- no income tax
credit to help. what about the non-resident? No State income-no tax
credit. Maybe there could be another form of help for these groups.
3. Permits for installation: Maybe the county could waive the $115
fee to install solar hot water, and waive the $500 fee for
commerical use.
The necessity for having three different inspectors for a hot water
system seems like a waste of taxpayer money. Having said that, I ask
permission to work by the permit process.
4.Real Estate Taxes: When I apply for a solar permit, the estimated
value reaches $8000. I don't know what numbers the property tax
people use, but we are taxed on valuation every year. Maybe there
could be a exemption or a series of exemptions like the safe room,
or resident occoipied presently offered.

I beleive that 95% of our hot water needs can be met with a
properly sized solar hot water system. Hot water does not need to
be heated with a potent fuel.I think we need to find ways for
everybody to join in and let the sun do all the work it can.

#392

From: "laakea77" <laakea77@...>
Date: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:10 pm
Subject: Solar Hot Water

laakea77

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Del Alexander
Del Sol Enterprises INC.
Solar installer for 30 years

       Solar hot water systems work! How can we motivate the
hotels,
vacation rentals often owned by non-residents, single and mutiple
unit rentals, the upper class fully air condition Mc Mansionites
that seem
to avoid the awful look of solar panels on their pretigous roof?

1. Mandate: sounds like a good starting point.
2. Tax credits:  what about the retirees? no income- no income tax
credit to help. what about the non-resident? No State income-no tax
credit. Maybe there could be another form of help for these groups.
3. Permits for installation: Maybe the county could waive the $115
fee to install solar hot water, and waive the $500 fee for
commerical use.
The necessity for having three different inspectors for a hot water
system seems like a waste of taxpayer money. Having said that, I ask
permission to work by the permit process.
4.Real Estate Taxes: When I apply for a solar permit, the estimated
value reaches $8000. I don't know what numbers the property tax
people use, but we are taxed on valuation every year. Maybe there
could be a exemption or a series of exemptions like the safe room,
or resident occoipied presently offered.

   I beleive that 95% of our hot water needs can be met with a
properly sized solar hot water system. Hot water does not need to
be heated with a potent fuel.I think we need to find ways for
everybody to join in and let the sun do all the work it can.

#391

From: "mananalo7" <ezed@...>
Date: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:11 am
Subject: Re: this rules - and it is fun

mananalo7

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Got any bulb changer jokes to go along with that?

--- In apollokauai@yahoogroups.com, jonathan jay <jonathan@...> wrote:
>
> and fun to say :
>
> "unscrewamerica.org"
>
> jonathan
>

#390

From: jonathan jay <jonathan@...>
Date: Sun Mar 9, 2008 3:09 am
Subject: this rules - and it is fun

atomikauai

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and fun to say :

"unscrewamerica.org"

jonathan

#389

From: "Henry Curtis" <henry.lifeoftheland@...>
Date: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:01 pm
Subject: Surrendering to Climate Change

lifeofthelan...

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Surrendering to Climate Change

Imagine a truck that has lost its brakes coming down Haleakala or Mauna Kea. How would you guard against that?

You could focus on slowing or stopping the truck by building better emergency brakes.

You could focus on alternative paths - like run-a-way ramps.

Or you could focus on helmets for people, encourage the driving of SUVs, and hardening buildings, so that the resulting impact will minimize the loss of life.

Climate change is like the truck barreling down the hill.

You can focus on slowing or stopping it through conservation and energy efficiency.

You can focus on alternative paths - like low impact, climate friendly, renewable energy.

Or you could focus on building new ecosystems so that existing species can be relocated after their original habitat is destroyed.

This later approach is called adaptation, mitigation, or collaboration. The idea is to accept that climate change can't be stopped, to accept money from climate abusers, and to use the money to adapt life and ecosystems to the coming climate disaster.

The Nature Conservancy -- ''Preparing for Climate Change: The Conservancy is calling for governments around the world to implement strong climate change adaptation policies that: ... Seek adaptation strategies ... Adjust conservation and natural resource management approaches to enable plants, animals and natural communities to adapt to inevitable impacts ... Provide dedicated and incremental funding to implement nature-based adaptation strategies ... Policy frameworks that achieve these objectives can ensure that natural areas around the world adapt to the impacts of climate change and continue to protect and support people's livelihoods.'' www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/strategies/art22952.html

The Nature Conservancy is openly advocating this position at the Hawaii Legislature and at the Hawaii Greenhouse Gas Emissions Task Force created by the Legislature. Some legislators are buying it.

This is a natural extension for The Nature Conservancy which preserves land by providing tax breaks for polluters.

--
Henry Curtis, Executive Director, Life of the Land, 76 N. King Street, Suite 203, Honolulu, HI 96817. phone: 808-533-3454. cell: 808-927-0709. Web Site: http://www.lifeofthelandhawaii.org/ email:henry.lifeoftheland@...

#388

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:30 pm
Subject: RE: Official Call to Action re: KIUC Elections

kauaipower

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Aloha, Jonathan.

Thanks for the post, I like your LED bulb. When I was Staff Chief Engineer of the Jumbo Mark II vessel and on the design and construction project we used to carry a handful of lamps when making rounds at night and always had to replace some indicator lamps.

I worked directly with LEDTronics in CA and I converted the vessel to LED indicator lamps. The total was over 1800 lamps of many types. It was a huge success and for three years before I retired we did not replace any. It was easy to see the benefits. Not only did we find that indicators were a true color but we even helped design the clear lamps that are growing in use all over.

Keep up the good work and remember I live here too.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jonathan jay
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:20 AM
To: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apollokauai] Official Call to Action re: KIUC Elections

Aloha and Good Morning AK.

On the front page of TGI:

KIUC BOD has jus nominated 3 people for the upcoming BOD election.
As was proposed earlier, I am urging AK to endorse 3 Platform Planks.

These are three core value positions that without, AK can not recommend
coop members consider in the election. What do you think they can be?

I am proposing that we quickly pool our efforts, each submit your best
effort (at something we can likely agree to). Then, i will bundle that
into a press release with the aforementioned and previously discussed
'AK Bright Ideas' proposal and release it TGI. NO Lumps of Coal. ;)

When we determine when our AK/TGI-Sponsored debate shall be, we can ask
questions on a variety of topics as is now our custom, AND test for the
presence of these 3 core value Platform Planks.

I invite you now to think of one platform plank that ANYONE who wants
your vote MUST have in order for you to even consider them.

Please for the next 3 minutes, in simple language, craft your core
plank. Since the goal is to agree, lets see how quickly we can converge
in agreement. Might AK become more nimble in 2008? Here is our first test.

Please reply back to the list your platform plank.

Aloha,

jonathan

#387

From: jonathan jay <jonathan@...>
Date: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:20 pm
Subject: Official Call to Action re: KIUC Elections

atomikauai

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Aloha and Good Morning AK.

On the front page of TGI:

KIUC BOD has jus nominated 3 people for the upcoming BOD election.
As was proposed earlier, I am urging AK to endorse 3 Platform Planks.

These are three core value positions that without, AK can not recommend
    coop members consider in the election.  What do you think they can be?

I am proposing that we quickly pool our efforts, each submit your best
effort (at something we can likely agree to).  Then, i will bundle that
into a press release with the aforementioned and previously discussed
'AK Bright Ideas' proposal  and release it TGI.  NO Lumps of Coal. ;)

When we determine when our AK/TGI-Sponsored debate shall be, we can ask
questions on a variety of topics as is now our custom, AND test for the
presence of these 3 core value Platform Planks.

I invite you now to think of one platform plank that ANYONE who wants
your vote MUST have in order for you to even consider them.

Please for the next 3 minutes, in simple language, craft your core
plank.  Since the goal is to agree, lets see how quickly we can converge
in agreement.  Might AK become more nimble in 2008?  Here is our first test.

Please reply back to the list your platform plank.

Aloha,

jonathan

#386

From: "Henry Curtis" <henry.lifeoftheland@...>
Date: Mon Jan 7, 2008 12:17 am
Subject: alert alert alert

lifeofthelan...

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Aloha,

Save these dates. We are part of a planning group around thie event.
Will you join us in planning demonstrations around this event ?
International climate change conference

East West Center, Honolulu, January 30-31, 2008

President Bush's
Major Economies Meeting on Energy Security and Climate Change (goals not requirements)
Invitees: 17 countries representing 80 percent of greenhouse gas emissions:

U.S., China, Portugal, Russian, Japan, India, Germany, Canada, the United Kingdom, Italy, Korea, France, Mexico, Australia, South Africa, Indonesia and Brazil, plus representatives from the European Commission and United Nations.

Local Host: DBEDT

Europeans has threatened a boycott due to US non-actions at Bali.

--
Henry Curtis, Executive Director, Life of the Land, 76 N. King Street, Suite 203, Honolulu, HI 96817. phone: 808-533-3454. cell: 808-927-0709. Web Site: http://www.lifeofthelandhawaii.org/ email:henry.lifeoftheland@...

#385

From: "Clark Dodge" <clark@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 10:01 pm
Subject: RE: neighborhoods

kauaipower

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Aloha.

Well you sure can’t be talking about me as that is what I do.

Clark Dodge, President

CED Consulting LLC

341 Lanakila Rd.

Kapaa, HI. 96746-1241

Ph: (808) 245-7183

Cell: (808) 634-8183

From: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apollokauai@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mananalo7
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:36 PM
To: apollokauai@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apollokauai] neighborhoods

I just signed up to post here. I hope this group's language is not too
verbose. I'm Armored.

Seems like the neighborhoods on kauai are designed to be dependent on
public utilities. That is, no provisions for alternative energy
sources for each home.

I also believe in new technology will make things run more
efficiently. That is computers making sure all the energy is extracted
from each drop of fuel. But often is not the case. But then few
utilities are able to afford to upgrade their equipment often enough.

Comments?

Just something to thimk about before thursday's meeting.

#384

From: "mananalo7" <ezed@...>
Date: Sun Jan 6, 2008 7:35 am
Subject: neighborhoods

mananalo7

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I just signed up to post here.  I hope this group's language is not too
verbose.  I'm Armored.

Seems like the neighborhoods on kauai are designed to be dependent on
public utilities.  That is, no provisions for alternative energy
sources for each home.

I also believe in new technology will make things run more
efficiently.  That is computers making sure all the energy is extracted
from each drop of fuel.  But often is not the case.  But then few
utilities are able to afford to upgrade their equipment often enough.

Comments?

Just something to thimk about before thursday's meeting.

#383

From: "dwhanamaulu" <sayjaz3@...>
Date: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: Green Energy Hawaii

dwhanamaulu

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