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RE: [applyingsociology] False Pretenses

I really believe sociology should be the study of how to make a better world.

I think the "Change the World" conversation is the proper domain of sociology.

Kenneth Boulding the economist noted the task of the social science
is to answer the question, what is better and how do we get there?

Today's sociologists are supremely inept at social change but I think
that should be our aspiration. Positive social change.

Good for whom? according to whom? Good for people. From
everything we have learned about people. (Human needs.....
happiness).




Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:59 am

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seems like this is the kind of work (analysis) that sociologists should be doing... "President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials,...
John Glass
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Jan 23, 2008
4:36 pm

Hi group, I'm relatively new here, and am only a lowly student. :-) From some of the great professors I've had, this would seem to be something that a...
Stacey and Lisa
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Jan 23, 2008
5:07 pm

Stacey, Some of us are, and find that battles often extremely costly -- and sometimes you just wear down over time. Some sociologists aren't involved in...
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Jan 23, 2008
5:33 pm

hi, Stacey first, there is no such thing as a lowly student -- despite what you may have been lead to believe by people calling themselves professors, so feel...
John Glass
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Jan 23, 2008
10:32 pm

Thank you Dave and John for your insights, I agree with you both! John, you mentioned something that's a curiosity to me: that the "younger" folks haven't...
Stacey and Lisa
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Jan 23, 2008
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hi, Stacey i am not convinced that my brain is worth picking, but nevertheless... not having the benefit of hearing the specifics of what was said publicly and...
John Glass
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Jan 24, 2008
5:23 pm

Stacey, One of the main reasons I eventually chose sociology (prior interest in psychology and economics) was I really enjoy sociologists - - and 35 years...
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Jan 24, 2008
5:36 pm

First we would likely not find much agreement as to what a better world is. There are also many like Ken Boulding who wore other labels who did work for the...
Del Thomas Ph D
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Jan 24, 2008
12:28 am

I really believe sociology should be the study of how to make a better world. I think the "Change the World" conversation is the proper domain of sociology. ...
William Du Bois
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Jan 24, 2008
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speaking of positive social change, what about this year's presidential election? Corporate Hillary is a drag. Barrack Obama is in bed with the Big Coal...
William Du Bois
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Jan 24, 2008
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I believe John and the others who've addressed the topic of what sociologists should be doing to change the world are well intentioned. But as I've said...
kenocc
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Jan 24, 2008
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hi, Ken i understand why you reference me in your statement about "changing the world," but neither of my most recent posts have much to do with that. both of...
John Glass
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Jan 25, 2008
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Is it really that difficult to determine things that can make a better world? I am not talking about knowing and constructing "Utopia" - - - but in a world...
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Jan 25, 2008
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