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#1 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2007 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: I've created an ArborWiki discussion list
matt_hampel
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Hi Kyle,
My apologies for not ccing you in the last conversation. Andrew Turner and Mikel Maron (of GeoRSS: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GeoRSS) and I have been talking, very generally, about mapping.

 In my ideal system:
- The MediaWiki database (or some other secure store, like Google's database) stores location information
- A simple edit interface within the MediaWiki interface allows mapping of points, n-gons (and perhaps) paths, and allows displaying those maps embedded in pages at various sizes.
- Data from specific pages can be aggregated at will -- for instance, the map data of all pages categorized "groceries" can be displayed on "Category:Groceries", but also on the page "Places Matt likes".

-Matt


On 10/1/07, Kyle Mulka <mulka@...> wrote:
Obviously, I'll help out with a new mapping system, as I built Cartiki
which powers ArborWiki currently. What are you looking for in a
mapping system?

-Kyle

On 9/29/07, Matt Hampel < matthew.hampel@...> wrote:
> Dear awesome ArborWiki folks--
>
> I've set up a yahoo group as a discussion list for ArborWiki:
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/arborwiki-discuss/
>
> Every time I send out an ArborWiki question or announcement I worry that I
> someone important isn't in the conversation, and MediaWiki's structure
> doesn't really afford good conversations or event broadcasting, so hopefully
> this will be a better way to to handle some of those conversations.
>
> In any case, here's a short Fall quarter status check-
> - Ed has started putting events (especially reoccurring events) online for
> easy linkability - http://arborwiki.org/city/October_2007
> - I hear rumors that librarians from the AADL may start using AW as a
> resource... and even start posting content with some regularity
> - Andrew T. has been helping me figure out a new mapping system for the
> Wiki. Tricky business -- any one want to pitch in?
> - Any suggestions you send me for process / layout  / whatever changes are
> very helpful. My time for innovating now is somewhat limited, so I can use
> anything you want to send.
> - Some things are still broken from the Sept. upgrade to MediaWiki 1.10. If
> you find something, please send out a note!
>
> Thanks to everyone, especially for dealing with those random spammers.
>
>  -Matt Hampel
>
>


--
Kyle Mulka
http://www.kylemulka.com


#2 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2007 7:33 pm
Subject: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
matt_hampel
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Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is lunchtime tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's, http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios

Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something you've found, or just listen in and have delicious food.

-Matt


The bullet-point overview from SocialText (http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed):
  • Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each month
  • People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk deals and generally cavort
  • You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
  • Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month

#3 From: "Brian Kerr" <brian@...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:02 am
Subject: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
briankerr48105
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Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and I celebrated
WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking about
Christopher
Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get WikiWednesday
scheduled
out in more locations.

Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK

--- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...> wrote:
>
> Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is lunchtime
> tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's, http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
>
> Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something you've
> found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
>
> -Matt
>
>
> The bullet-point overview from SocialText (http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
> ):
>
>    - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each month
>    - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
>    deals and generally
> cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
>    - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
>    - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
>

#4 From: Richard Murphy <murph@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2007 11:27 pm
Subject: Re: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
commonmonkey...
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Hey, I see in the "minutes" that the one-line nonsense word spam was
discussed.  Any ideas?  I had 76 edits on my personal wiki just *today*
of one-line nonsense word spam...

-M.
On Oct 2, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Brian Kerr wrote:

> Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and I
> celebrated
>  WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking
> about Christopher
>  Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get
> WikiWednesday scheduled
>  out in more locations.
>
>  Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK
>
>  --- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is
> lunchtime
>  > tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's,
> http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
>  >
>  > Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something
> you've
>  > found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
>  >
>  > -Matt
>  >
>  >
>  > The bullet-point overview from SocialText
> (http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
>  > ):
>  >
>  > - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each
> month
>  > - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
>  > deals and generally
>  > cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
>  > - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
>  > - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
>  >
>
>
>

#5 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
matt_hampel
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I pinged Mark Dilley about it too.

Anyone with information is URGENT -- URGENT urged to call the spam tip line at (734) 846 5010. Anonymity guaranteed. Please call. Once again, the number, if you have any leads, (734) 846 5010. Trained specialists are standing by.


On 10/4/07, Richard Murphy <murph@...> wrote:
Hey, I see in the "minutes" that the one-line nonsense word spam was
discussed.  Any ideas?  I had 76 edits on my personal wiki just *today*
of one-line nonsense word spam...

-M.
On Oct 2, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Brian Kerr wrote:

> Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and I
> celebrated
>  WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking
> about Christopher
>  Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get
> WikiWednesday scheduled
>  out in more locations.
>
>  Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK
>
>  --- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com , "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is
> lunchtime
>  > tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's,
> http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
>  >
>  > Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something
> you've
>  > found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
>  >
>  > -Matt
>  >
>  >
>  > The bullet-point overview from SocialText
> (http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
>  > ):
>  >
>  > - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each
> month
>  > - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
>  > deals and generally
>  > cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
>  > - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
>  > - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
>  >
>
>
>



#6 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2007 12:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
evielmet
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Matt, aren't you running reCaptcha?  Maybe it's just
a matter of tuning that a bit more aggressively so that
more people have to go through it.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ReCAPTCHA

My not-logged-in edits always go through this when they
have a URL in them, and it might just be a matter of
making that filter of when it kicks in more frequent.

Ed

On 10/4/07, Matt Hampel <mahatm@...> wrote:

I pinged Mark Dilley about it too.

Anyone with information is URGENT -- URGENT urged to call the spam tip line at (734) 846 5010. Anonymity guaranteed. Please call. Once again, the number, if you have any leads, (734) 846 5010. Trained specialists are standing by.




On 10/4/07, Richard Murphy < murph@...> wrote:
Hey, I see in the "minutes" that the one-line nonsense word spam was
discussed.  Any ideas?  I had 76 edits on my personal wiki just *today*
of one-line nonsense word spam...

-M.
On Oct 2, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Brian Kerr wrote:

> Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and I
> celebrated
>  WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking
> about Christopher
>  Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get
> WikiWednesday scheduled
>  out in more locations.
>
>  Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK
>
>  --- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com , "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is
> lunchtime
>  > tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's,
> http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
>  >
>  > Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something
> you've
>  > found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
>  >
>  > -Matt
>  >
>  >
>  > The bullet-point overview from SocialText
> ( http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
>  > ):
>  >
>  > - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each
> month
>  > - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
>  > deals and generally
>  > cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
>  > - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
>  > - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
>  >
>
>
>




#7 From: "Patti" <DrPattiS@...>
Date: Sat Oct 6, 2007 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
drpattis1
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Any chance of scheduling at more times? I teach school in Detroit and
can't make lunch (except on weekends and summers, of course).

Just a suggestion!
Patti :)

--- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Kerr" <brian@...> wrote:
>
> Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and
I celebrated
> WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking
about Christopher
> Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get
WikiWednesday scheduled
> out in more locations.
>
> Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK
>
> --- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@> wrote:
> >
> > Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is
lunchtime
> > tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's,
http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
> >
> > Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something
you've
> > found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > The bullet-point overview from SocialText
(http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
> > ):
> >
> >    - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each
month
> >    - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
> >    deals and generally
> > cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
> >    - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
> >    - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
> >
>

#8 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2007 4:02 am
Subject: Re: Re: A2 Wiki Wednesday #1
matt_hampel
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Yes-- certainly! Thanks for emailing that note. This last WikiWednesday was set up last minute. As November approaches, we'll negotiate some mutually agreeable time.

-Matt

On 10/6/07, Patti <DrPattiS@...> wrote:

Any chance of scheduling at more times? I teach school in Detroit and
can't make lunch (except on weekends and summers, of course).

Just a suggestion!
Patti :)



--- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Kerr" <brian@...> wrote:
>
> Back in the protohistoric mists of time (e.g. 2006), MarkDilley and
I celebrated
> WikiWednesday by hiding in a dark corner of Leopold's and talking
about Christopher
> Alexander. Now, Mark and some other folks are working to get
WikiWednesday scheduled
> out in more locations.
>
> Organic pizza has wiki nature, --BK
>
> --- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@> wrote:
> >
> > Ann Arbor's (first?) Wiki Wednesday, a last minute affair, is
lunchtime
> > tomorrow (the 3rd), 12:15pm at Silvio's,
http://arborwiki.org/city/Silvios
> >
> > Come on over to chat about wikis, show off a project or something
you've
> > found, or just listen in and have delicious food.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > The bullet-point overview from SocialText
(http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
> > ):
> >
> > - Wiki Wednesdays are held (mostly) the first Wednesday of each
month
> > - People get together to chat, learn about wikis, find jobs, talk
> > deals and generally
> > cavort<http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/index.cgi?cavort>
> > - You can RSVP, or swing by if you like
> > - Wiki Wednesday is (usually) the first Wednesday of the month
> >
>



#9 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2007 4:07 am
Subject: Captcha triggers for all anonymous edits
matt_hampel
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ReCaptcha is now configured to trigger on every anonymous edit. This should cut down on some of the junk that's been passing through recently.

I'm sorry for any inconvenience, but the spam of the last few days greatly outnumbers the legitimate anonymous editors.

-Matt

#10 From: Richard Murphy <murph@...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2007 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: Captcha triggers for all anonymous edits
commonmonkey...
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Matt,

What LocalSettings tweak enables "every anonymous edit"?  (I'm feeling
lazy.)

-M.


On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Matt Hampel wrote:

> ReCaptcha is now configured to trigger on every anonymous edit. This
> should cut down on some of the junk that's been passing through
> recently.
>
> I'm sorry for any inconvenience, but the spam of the last few days
> greatly outnumbers the legitimate anonymous editors.
>
> -Matt
>
>

#11 From: Richard Murphy <murph@...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2007 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: Captcha triggers for all anonymous edits
commonmonkey...
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Sorry for the out-of-context message, all, I meant to first say, "Holy
cow - I just checked out the recaptcha webpage and learned what their
"stop spam, read books" tag means.  Awesome!" and then comment on
needing to install ReCaptcha on my own personal wiki.

-Murph.

On Oct 7, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Richard Murphy wrote:

> Matt,
>
> What LocalSettings tweak enables "every anonymous edit"?  (I'm feeling
> lazy.)
>
> -M.
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Matt Hampel wrote:
>
>> ReCaptcha is now configured to trigger on every anonymous edit. This
>> should cut down on some of the junk that's been passing through
>> recently.
>>
>> I'm sorry for any inconvenience, but the spam of the last few days
>> greatly outnumbers the legitimate anonymous editors.
>>
>> -Matt
>>

#12 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2007 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: Captcha triggers for all anonymous edits
matt_hampel
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It's a setting in reCaptcha -- in the ConfirmEdit.php file.

The whole list of settings is:
$wgCaptchaTriggers['edit']          = true; // Would check on every edit
$wgCaptchaTriggers['create']            = false; // Check on page creation.
$wgCaptchaTriggers['addurl']        = true;  // Check on edits that add URLs
$wgCaptchaTriggers['createaccount'] = true;  // Special:Userlogin&type=signup
$wgCaptchaTriggers['badlogin']      = true;  // Special:Userlogin after failure

-Matt


On 10/7/07, Richard Murphy <murph@...> wrote:
Sorry for the out-of-context message, all, I meant to first say, "Holy
cow - I just checked out the recaptcha webpage and learned what their
"stop spam, read books" tag means.  Awesome!" and then comment on
needing to install ReCaptcha on my own personal wiki.

-Murph.

On Oct 7, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Richard Murphy wrote:

> Matt,
>
> What LocalSettings tweak enables "every anonymous edit"?  (I'm feeling
> lazy.)
>
> -M.
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2007, at 12:07 AM, Matt Hampel wrote:
>
>> ReCaptcha is now configured to trigger on every anonymous edit. This
>> should cut down on some of the junk that's been passing through
>> recently.
>>
>> I'm sorry for any inconvenience, but the spam of the last few days
>> greatly outnumbers the legitimate anonymous editors.
>>
>> -Matt
>>



#13 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:51 pm
Subject: losing unicode in arborwiki
evielmet
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There used to be a bunch of pages in arborwiki written in
non-English languages - I cut/paste some Korean grocery
information (in Korean) in there, and there's also a series
of Unicode characters that used to be there that are gone.

Brian noted that there's a difference in the underlying
database (it's a latin-1 encoding, not a unicode encoding)
that's responsible for this.

looking forward to getting my ❤ back,

Ed

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Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:43 pm
Subject: I would like to join your group; my membership is pending approval
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#15 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:59 pm
Subject: Fwd: [a2b3] EMU Lecture on Wikipedia and Academia Tomorrow
evielmet
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anyone going need a ride?  have a ride?  I'll be leaving from
burns park

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marshall Poe < marshallpoe@...>
Date: Oct 24, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: [a2b3] EMU Lecture on Wikipedia and Academia Tomorrow
To: a2b3@yahoogroups.com

I thought this might be of interest to the list.

EMU is hosting a year-long lecture series on "Wikipedia and Academia." The first lecture/discussion (by yours truly) will be tomorrow night (Thursday, October 25) at 7 pm, in 201 Pray-Harrold Hall on the EMU campus. The subject will be " Wikipedia: Academia's Friend or Foe?"

Next semester there will be three more lecture/discussions:

-Larry Sanger (co-founder of Wikipedia; founder of Citizendium), " Wikipedia, Citizendium and the Future of Online Collaboration"
Thursday, February 7,  7pm, EMU  Student Center Auditorium
 
-Andrew Keen (author of Cult of the Amateur), "The Dangers of Wikipedia"
Thursday, March 6,  7pm, EMU Student Center Auditorium

-Katherine Walsh (member of the WikiMedia Foundation Board of Trustees)—Title TBA
Thursday, April 10  7pm,  EMU Student Center Auditorium

If you have questions, please contact me.

Marshall Poe




--
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#16 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:24 am
Subject: new twitter stream @arborwiki
evielmet
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I did the simplest thing that (doesnt' quite) work and built

http://twitter.com/arborwiki

which takes the recent changes feed, sends it through Feedburner,
and twitterizes it.

the RSS feed is wrong, wrong, wrong for twitter, though - and I'm
wondering if anyone else has done this and if so if they picked a
different short text "recent changes" excerpt to run as the summary.

--
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#17 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:24 am
Subject: Wiki Wednesday: 7 November
matt_hampel
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The next Wiki Wednesday is coming up. Current planning has an evening coffee set for 8.30 / 9pm-ish at Rendezvous on South University:
http://arborwiki.org/city/Wiki_Wednesday

Thanks also @ everyone for the great conversations at ArbCamp today.

-Matt

#18 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:06 am
Subject: MediaWiki extension help
matt_hampel
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Dear MediaWiki folks,

I need help wrapping my mind around hooks. Specifically, what I'm looking for is the basic shell of a php extension that would let me insert arbitrary code (a) in the head of every page and (b) right above the edit box.

Thanks lots,
Matt



#19 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:45 pm
Subject: Arbdev on IRC
matt_hampel
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The AADL has set up an IRC channel for your lurking pleasure: irc.aadl.org / #arbdev

thanks @eli and @ryaneby for setting this up.

-Matt

#20 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:14 am
Subject: arborwikivision / maps mashup of arborwiki edits
evielmet
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sound like it would be doable?  I dunno.  the wikipediavision
stream is neat to watch

---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Oct 30, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Direct message from Edward Vielmetti via twitterrific
To: edward.vielmetti+arborwiki@...

can we build arborwikivision http://mashable.com/2007/10/30/wikipediavision/

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#21 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Sun Nov 4, 2007 7:39 pm
Subject: Coming up: Wiki Wednesday
matt_hampel
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Wiki Wednesday Ann Arbor is going to start coalescing on the first floor of Rendezvous at 8.30pm this week.

More details: http://arborwiki.org/city/Wiki_Wednesday

-Matt

#22 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Mon Nov 5, 2007 1:37 am
Subject: Fwd: arborwiki
evielmet
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passing this in the group's general direction...thanks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim Griffin <griff@...>
Date: Oct 31, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: arborwiki
To: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti@...>


Hey Ed!   Hope things are well with you...

       i was just looking at arborwiki (cool) and it has a lot of
elements that we're trying to incorporate, and some that might fit
well with other things we'd like to do.

check out     the neighborhood  off of our web page, and one of our
projects    annarboralive.com/newswiki.html

lets talk or get together

Jim "Griff" Griffin
Executive Director
AnnArborAlive
106 E. Liberty Ste. 303
Ann Arbor MI   48104
734-761-6874


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#23 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Mon Nov 5, 2007 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: arborwiki
matt_hampel
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Are they coming to Wiki Wednesday?

On Nov 4, 2007 8:37 PM, Edward Vielmetti < edward.vielmetti@...> wrote:

passing this in the group's general direction...thanks

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim Griffin <griff@...>
Date: Oct 31, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: arborwiki
To: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti@...>

Hey Ed! Hope things are well with you...

i was just looking at arborwiki (cool) and it has a lot of
elements that we're trying to incorporate, and some that might fit
well with other things we'd like to do.

check out the neighborhood off of our web page, and one of our
projects annarboralive.com/newswiki.html

lets talk or get together

Jim "Griff" Griffin
Executive Director
AnnArborAlive
106 E. Liberty Ste. 303
Ann Arbor MI 48104
734-761-6874

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#24 From: Brian Kerr <brian@...>
Date: Mon Nov 5, 2007 5:18 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: arborwiki
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Jim:

* http://arborwiki.org/city/Wiki_Wednesday
* November 7 starting 8:30 - 9:00pm until ??:?? at Rendezvous.

Consider yourself and any others warmly invited to come and talk
about ... wiki.

This is a super informal thing that some friends are kicking off,
trying to have monthly gatherings in various regions for people to
come and talk about wiki.

Here is a link about WikiWednesday in general, although the arborwiki
page is a better reference for local stuff -- http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed

Thanks,

--
Brian


On Nov 4, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Matt Hampel wrote:

> Are they coming to Wiki Wednesday?
>
> On Nov 4, 2007 8:37 PM, Edward Vielmetti < edward.vielmetti@...>
> wrote:
>
>>  passing this in the group's general direction...thanks
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Jim Griffin <griff@... <griff
>> %40annarboralive.com>>
>> Date: Oct 31, 2007 4:27 PM
>> Subject: arborwiki
>> To: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti@...<edward.vielmetti
>> %40gmail.com>
>>>
>>
>> Hey Ed! Hope things are well with you...
>>
>> i was just looking at arborwiki (cool) and it has a lot of
>> elements that we're trying to incorporate, and some that might fit
>> well with other things we'd like to do.
>>
>> check out the neighborhood off of our web page, and one of our
>> projects annarboralive.com/newswiki.html
>>
>> lets talk or get together
>>
>> Jim "Griff" Griffin
>> Executive Director
>> AnnArborAlive
>> 106 E. Liberty Ste. 303
>> Ann Arbor MI 48104
>> 734-761-6874
>>
>> --
>> Edward Vielmetti +1 734 330 2465
>>
>>



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#25 From: "Patti" <DrPattiS@...>
Date: Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:54 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: arborwiki
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Personally, I hope that Ann Arbor Alive gets on board with this group!
  I was involved with them when they first started and it is hard to
find a better group of guys!

Patti :)

--- In arborwiki-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerr <brian@...> wrote:
>
> Jim:
>
> * http://arborwiki.org/city/Wiki_Wednesday
> * November 7 starting 8:30 - 9:00pm until ??:?? at Rendezvous.
>
> Consider yourself and any others warmly invited to come and talk
> about ... wiki.
>
> This is a super informal thing that some friends are kicking off,
> trying to have monthly gatherings in various regions for people to
> come and talk about wiki.
>
> Here is a link about WikiWednesday in general, although the arborwiki
> page is a better reference for local stuff --
http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Brian
>
>
> On Nov 4, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Matt Hampel wrote:
>
> > Are they coming to Wiki Wednesday?
> >
> > On Nov 4, 2007 8:37 PM, Edward Vielmetti < edward.vielmetti@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>  passing this in the group's general direction...thanks
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Jim Griffin <griff@... <griff
> >> %40annarboralive.com>>
> >> Date: Oct 31, 2007 4:27 PM
> >> Subject: arborwiki
> >> To: Edward Vielmetti <edward.vielmetti@...<edward.vielmetti
> >> %40gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hey Ed! Hope things are well with you...
> >>
> >> i was just looking at arborwiki (cool) and it has a lot of
> >> elements that we're trying to incorporate, and some that might fit
> >> well with other things we'd like to do.
> >>
> >> check out the neighborhood off of our web page, and one of our
> >> projects annarboralive.com/newswiki.html
> >>
> >> lets talk or get together
> >>
> >> Jim "Griff" Griffin
> >> Executive Director
> >> AnnArborAlive
> >> 106 E. Liberty Ste. 303
> >> Ann Arbor MI 48104
> >> 734-761-6874
> >>
> >> --
> >> Edward Vielmetti +1 734 330 2465
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
> AIM/skype: briankerr48105
>      voice: 734-846-8397
>       http://joechip.net/brian
>

#26 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:38 am
Subject: CSS Cleanup
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The CSS cleanup is in progress--
Thanks to Alan for making formatting / standardization changes. He's also looking for a good core set of form element styles -- that's the next step

pageoftext updated: http://pageoftext.com/arborwikicss
devdot updated: http://dev.arborwiki.org (no longer pulling pageoftext)

-Matt

#27 From: "Matt Hampel" <mahatm@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:01 am
Subject: Wiki Wednesday: December 5
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The next Wiki Wednesday, an opportunity to informally chat wikis, is
coming up on December 5 --
if you're interested in coming, what times might work for you?

The discussion: http://arborwiki.org/city/Wiki_Wednesday

potentially 8.30pm // Rendezvous on South U

Topic! Show and tell! Bring a description of an interesting wiki /
shared editing widget or interface. Show something you've built
recently.

Topic! 501.c.(3) status?

#28 From: "Edward Vielmetti" <edward.vielmetti@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:40 pm
Subject: Fwd: Google Apps event - partnered with a2 chamber
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Scott Johnston who is organizing this is the former product
manager for Jotspot, a commercial wiki product that's slowly
oozing out into Google apps land.  Some pointed questions
to him in that direction would be welcomed.

If you're going from downtown and can coordination transportation,
that would be good (use Goloco or something).


I''ll be out of town for the NSFNET 20th reunion.

thanks

Ed


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Linda Girard <lgirard@...>
Date: Nov 26, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Google Apps event - partnered with a2 chamber
To: Pure Visibility Team <team@...>


Collaborate and Communicate with Google Apps
Workshop in Partnership with Ann Arbor Chamber of Commerce

When:
Thursday, November 29th, 2007
4:30-6:30PM

http://services.google.com/events/annarbor_apps






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#29 From: Alan Gutierrez <alan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: CSS Cleanup
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Here are some notes on an IM exchange with Matt Hampel regarding forms.

http://blogometer.com/post/arborwiki-style-and-forms/

Here is a link to a few forms that are being used in the applications
I'm developing to augment MediaWiki for the New Orleans Wiki.

http://thinknola.com/alpha/2007/10/register/login

http://thinknola.com/alpha/2007/10/register/join

There is a data entry form that is not visible unless you have editor
privileges. I plan on creating a dummy of that form so that I can
seek feedback on it's design. It attempts to solved the books and
authors problem, a many to many relationship where the user must
enter an author for a book. If the author already exists, that
existing author's record is used. Always thought this was tricky.

On Nov 26, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Matt Hampel wrote:

> The CSS cleanup is in progress--
> Thanks to Alan for making formatting / standardization changes.
> He's also looking for a good core set of form element styles --
> that's the next step
>
> pageoftext updated: http://pageoftext.com/arborwikicss
> devdot updated: http://dev.arborwiki.org (no longer pulling
> pageoftext)
>

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#30 From: "Samuel Rose" <samuel.rose@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 6:26 pm
Subject: Proposal To ArborWiki Community
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Dear Arbor Wiki,

Hi, I likely met some of you at ArbCamp. My name is Sam Rose http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/SamRose I am a social activist, and social entrepreneur based outside of Lansing, MI., and I am involved in lots of stuff (see my signature below)

One of the ideas that I am forumating with a fellow social/activist named http://www.ms.lt/?thinker=Dante-Gabryell_Monson is to create an michigan-basd, international not-for-profit entity, that works with existing open knowledge, and open source software, and open design projects, to put together solutions that can be applie to real-world problems. We would seek funding, on the basis of starting with real-world problems, plus existing technogical building blocks that are judged useful based on the "purpose" and needed "processed" of a solution.

One of the ideas that http://www.ms.lt/?thinker=Dante-Gabryell_Monson introduced to me recently, was the idea of creating s system that allows for an individual to create a digital "price book" ( http://organizedhome.com/make-price-book-save-money), and then to also create a way to aggregate the data that individuals enter, and let them compare it based on different "facets" of the data.

I originally started to build this in Drupal. But, then I started to think about how it would be awesome to have this "open price book" be a part of a larger system that communities can use to collectively gather and use data about their locations.

Naturally, this got me thinking about Arbor Wiki, and how Arbor Wiki is an example of an amazing set of solution-patterns that  emerged from people who are interested in building a community-drive data base about their location. So, I started to think about ArborWiki's approach, both as technology, and very importantly as a community, might be used by other communities to start creating useful databases about themselves. 

Now, this I do realize this is a long shot, and I realize that I am brand new to this onlne community, and I realize that I am not even *a person living in Ann Arbor*, but, never the less, what I propose is that the Not-for-profit entity that I am working on creating could help fund the community-governed development of Arbor Wiki, and that a toolset could be created, derived from the best practices of Arbor Wiki, that could then be downloaded and re-used elsewhere, along with valuable knowledge about the founding and sustaining of the ArborWiki community distilled into the form of a digital book that could accompany the software (possibly also including short movies or audio clips).

Some of the tools and enhancements that I might suggest could very well be rejected for inclusion in the either Arbor Wiki, or the toolset I am proposing creating, and that is ok. But, the stated "goal" would be to create an copylefted toolkit, that is fairly easy to download and install, or that is hosted by people who donate hosting for instance, that will let people in communities collect botht the data that ArborWiki is now collecting, and also possibly/probably more. A proposed method is to seek funding to accelerate the development of some of the functions/code/etc when necessary (though the goal is not to make a project that is based on, or about "money")

The fact is, that ArborWiki is one of the world's only standing examples of a very successful, usable and useful locality-based resources. One of the vital missing components needed for more "literacy" about location, money, local conditions, etc, is a way for people to collect and pool data about their location, and I realize that media wiki software makes a huge amount of locality-based community data collection, analysis, and re-distribution possible.

I will totally understand if this proposal is beyond what a few, some, or all in this group are interested, and I am very, very, very flexible about what, if anything this group might want to do with what i am proposing.

One of the first ideas that myself and Dante are proposing (the following description is somewhat abstract) that ArborWiki might be interested in testing out in your existing site is the "open price book" idea. I am thinking that it is possible to create a "form" that an individual can add to their user profile, and the "form" would search arborwiki for existing entries of "store" locations, and would automatically link to them. it is worth exploring to think about how "brand name" or other elements in the form might link to existing data (or create new data). Also, there could be a system of "rating" or "review" of services and experience, with similar forms.

Also, it would definitely be worth seeking funding, if funding is needed for existing ArborWiki goals, such as output of KML, incorporation of maps, etc. Basically, I think funding can be used by ArborWiki community to really refine ArborWiki as a tool that a lot of people could get huge amounts of value out of, and then this refined set of tools, and the knowledge of founding, growing, and sustaining community, could be used as a template and set of building blocks for re-use elsewhere (including the knowledge about how to get funding as a not-for-profit organization, for the successful development of city-wiki and community databases).

What do you think?


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