Thanks Ulrich. Unfortunately the material is now packed up ready to go
back to Norwich so I can't take any more photos (I don't have my camera
here anyway). There is only one object, and the photos cover all but one
view I think.

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ulrichwindisch wrote:
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> Good evening Sue,
> The green glazed tiles seem to me as if the are parts from an oven.
> Could you send me fotos to view them from all sides?
> Greetings from Berlin
> Ulrich Windisch
>
>

apologies for cross-posting.

I have just come across a 13th/14th century modelled pottery bird, probably
Grimston ware, from Norwich.  No other pottery was present in the context in
which it was found.  I've never come across anything like this from an
English medieval site, so would be grateful if anyone knows of any parallels
or even what it was actually used for.  my best guess is roof furniture
(looks like a pigeon to me!), although it would work as a lamp - no obvious
burn marks or sooting however. All sensible suggestions welcomed.

I've posted 4 pictures of it on photobucket at:

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii152/pblink/

thanks advance

P

Hi Paul,

mmmmmmmmmmmm! nice (as they might say on the fast show!).

I agree that it seems more likely to be roof furniture.  Only bird figures in
ceramic that I know of are Saintonge bird whistles (see attached.  We do have
anthropomorphic roof finials from Perth and I have a memory of some zoomorphic
ones in the Gerald Dunning archive of such things.  Why not ask Barbara Hurman
she ought to know of any parallels?

On a different tack do you fancy refereeing a paper a paper by Ben Jervis on
Pottery and identity in Saxon Sussex for the next MC?  If not can you suggest
another candidate as referee?

regards

Derek

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: paul blinkhorn
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   Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:38 PM
   Subject: [arch-pot] medieval pottery bird


   apologies for cross-posting.

   I have just come across a 13th/14th century modelled pottery bird, probably
   Grimston ware, from Norwich. No other pottery was present in the context in
   which it was found. I've never come across anything like this from an
   English medieval site, so would be grateful if anyone knows of any parallels
   or even what it was actually used for. my best guess is roof furniture
   (looks like a pigeon to me!), although it would work as a lamp - no obvious
   burn marks or sooting however. All sensible suggestions welcomed.

   I've posted 4 pictures of it on photobucket at:

   http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii152/pblink/

   thanks advance

   P






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I've posted a drawing on the arch-pot website of a tripod vessel with
boss decoration which was excavated from Norwich Castle mound. It's
likely to be 11th-13th century in date.

The fabric is moderately sandy with occasional ferrous inclusions (not
unlike Grimston coarseware) and is brown with a dark grey core. The
most unusual thing about it is the method of constructing the tripod
feet, which are made of rings of clay similar to the short bowl
handles and spouts made in Thetford Ware. It may be a one-off from one
of the local industries, but if anyone has parallels from outside the
area I'd be very interested to hear from them.

Thanks very much,

Sue Anderson.

Alan,

It wasn't attached, it's on the arch-pot website here:

http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/arch-pot/photos

(folder far right)

but you will need to sign in to see it.

The bosses are raised, not applied, and the same colour as the rest of
the pot.

Sue

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alan@postex wrote:
> Dear Sue,
>
> Can't see any drawing!
>
> However, if I understand your description correctly then I have never
> come across anything similar, but was just interested in the bosses
> (raised out from body? applied? same colour as body?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
>
>

Apologies for cross-posting.

I'm currently working on a large assemblage of 5th - century Anglo-Saxon
pottery from the south midlands, and have come across what can only be an
attempt to make a mortarium by an Anglo-Saxon potter.   The fragment is a
shallow, hand-built bowl with squared chunks of rock pressed into the inner
surface at regular intervals. Will get a pic of it on photobucket or similar
later if there is interest.  It is reliably stratifed, and of 5th-century
date.  there is also a large chunk of a Roman whiteware mortarium from the
same context, an SFB, which has otherwise produced a very large assemblage
of early A-S pot.  I am aware of the A-S imitation lions-head mortarium
spout from West Stow, but am otherwise stumped for parallels.  Does anyone
have any knowledge of any other A-S mortarium copies?  Thanks in advance,

Paul

I would love to see a pic of that!
Karen



At 02:42 AM 12/06/2008, you wrote:

>Apologies for cross-posting.
>
>I'm currently working on a large assemblage of 5th - century Anglo-Saxon
>pottery from the south midlands, and have come across what can only be an
>attempt to make a mortarium by an Anglo-Saxon potter. The fragment is a
>shallow, hand-built bowl with squared chunks of rock pressed into the inner
>surface at regular intervals. Will get a pic of it on photobucket or similar
>later if there is interest. It is reliably stratifed, and of 5th-century
>date. there is also a large chunk of a Roman whiteware mortarium from the
>same context, an SFB, which has otherwise produced a very large assemblage
>of early A-S pot. I am aware of the A-S imitation lions-head mortarium
>spout from West Stow, but am otherwise stumped for parallels. Does anyone
>have any knowledge of any other A-S mortarium copies? Thanks in advance,
>
>Paul
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Yes Please I would love to see a pic of it.  Graham

what's the ref for the west stow mort?

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have put 4 photos up on photobucket:

http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii152/pblink/a-s%20mortarium/

don't have the ref for the West Stow spout to hand, but it's illustrated in
Stanley's site report in the West Stow EAA

West, S, 1985, West Stow, The Anglo-Saxon Village.  East Anglian Archaeol
24, pp27 and Fig 92 (from SFB no.21)

jude


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what's the ref for the west stow mort?

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Ditto, I¹d be most interested to see it ‹ it sounds fascinating

Yours ever
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Paul - very frightening photoes! did you say what the rim diameter was for
yr AS mortarium?

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Hi Sue
I can't see the original message in this thread so I have no idea what
the fabric is like but I'll say something anyway.

The top of the vessel looks like an Anglo-Saxon vessel, as found at
Broughton YORKS, Lackford SUFFOLK and Heworth YORKS. The bottom is
problematic, is there any possibility the base could be from another
vessel.

Ray

--- In arch-pot@yahoogroups.com, Sue Anderson <sanderson@...> wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> It wasn't attached, it's on the arch-pot website here:
> http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/arch-pot/photos
> (folder far right)
> but you will need to sign in to see it.
> The bosses are raised, not applied, and the same colour as the rest
of the pot.
>
> Sue
>
> Sue Anderson
> Head of Post-Excavation Services

Thanks for that, no the bottom definitely belongs and the pot isn't
Early Saxon.

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uncle_ganio wrote:
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> Hi Sue
> I can't see the original message in this thread so I have no idea what
> the fabric is like but I'll say something anyway.
>
> The top of the vessel looks like an Anglo-Saxon vessel, as found at
> Broughton YORKS, Lackford SUFFOLK and Heworth YORKS. The bottom is
> problematic, is there any possibility the base could be from another
> vessel.
>
> Ray
>
> --- In arch-pot@yahoogroups.com <mailto:arch-pot%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Sue Anderson <sanderson@...> wrote:
> >
> > Alan,
> >
> > It wasn't attached, it's on the arch-pot website here:
> > http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/arch-pot/photos
> <http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/arch-pot/photos>
> > (folder far right)
> > but you will need to sign in to see it.
> > The bosses are raised, not applied, and the same colour as the rest
> of the pot.
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > Sue Anderson
> > Head of Post-Excavation Services
>
>

The 2009 Congress will be held at Newcastle upon Tyne, UK.

A call for papers and details of the programme, costs and accommodation
have now been posted on the Congress website:

www.twmuseums.org.uk/archaeology/conferencesandevents.html

If you have any queries, please use the contact details which appear on
the website.

Please note that there is an error on the website timetable: the date
for final payment of Congress fees should state 30 April 2009, not 2008.

I expect there will be several papers on aspects of Roman pottery.

Ray

Dear All,

This year's TAG conference is being hosted at the University of Southampton
between 15th-17th December 2008. Myself and Tehmina Goskar are organising a
session entitled "Putting Humpty Together Again: Overcoming the Fragmentation of
the Middle Ages" and are currently looking for papers. The session abstract
follows:

Putting Humpty Together Again: Overcoming the Fragmentation of the Middle Ages
fragmentation historical archaeology medieval
Tehmina Goskar (University of Southampton; tehm@...) and Ben Jervis
(University of Southampton; bpj106@...)

Medieval archaeology is one of the most vibrant fields of historical
archaeology. In previous years and decades there has been much debate over the
directions medieval archaeology should travel. This has generally centred around
questions of interdisciplinarity: understanding the archaeology in the contexts
of other disciplines such as history, anthropology and philosophy; or criticisms
of the lack of archaeological theory applied to the interpretation of
landscapes, sites and objects when compared with archaeologists engaged in
prehistory. However we have identified many other areas of ‘fragmentation’ which
archaeologists and those who use archaeological evidence have faced and
attempted to overcome. Some examples include:

• Transitions between periods, e.g. Saxon to Norman, early to high medieval,
late to post medieval
• Divisions between material specialists, e.g. ceramicists, numismatists, small
finds or metalwork specialists
• Geographic boundaries, e.g. studies according to modern regional and national
boundaries (Kent, Italy) or those according to contemporary boundaries (Wessex,
Normandy)
• Landscape and settlement vs. object-based archaeology
• Cultural focus vs. biological/environmental focus (including human and animal
remains)
• Life and death archaeology, e.g. finds and settlements relating to people’s
lifestyles and those found within funerary landscapes
• Relationships between urban and rural archaeology
• Theme-based divisions, e.g. social, economic, cultural, military
• Fragmentation between professions, e.g. academia, heritage (including
museums), commercial archaeology and conservation

This session seeks papers from those who want to, or have, overcome the kind of
fragmentation outlined above in their investigations and research. Have you
actively sought to apply theory to the way you view your period, sites and
materials in order to transcend the traditional boundaries of your field? Can
you demonstrate ways in which you have tried to challenge fragmentation
successfully? Or, if you have tried and it has failed, why? Is some
fragmentation necessary to retain specialisms and expertise or is it time to
challenge the basis of these divisions which operate within the boundaries of
outdated academic traditions?

If you are interested then please get in touch,

Many thanks,

Ben Jervis and Tehmina Goskar
University of Southampton

Sorry for the cross posting:

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This should be of interest to quite a lot of members. Apologies for any
cross-posting.

Yours ever
Diana

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> Subject: Seminar- Anglo-Saxon Kent Electronic Database
>

>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find attached details of a seminar to the launch the Anglo-Saxon Kent
> Electronic Database (ASKED), a new database of burial records from the early
> Kentish kingdom.
>
> The seminar will be of interest to students, amateur groups, field units and
> research professionals engaged in the study of early Medieval burial. please
> pass this on to anyone you feel may be interested.
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> Wednesday November 5, 2008 from 5.30 to 7pm
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London's EMAC '09, coinciding with Wedgwood's 250th anniversary, will
have a special themed session "From Craft to Science", to promote and
discuss the study of ceramics produced in the wake of the Industrial
Revolution. In addition, there will be a one-day excursion to Stoke-on-
Trent on Sunday 13th Sept, to visit the newly refurbished Wedgwood Visitor
Centre and Museum.

The following themes will be covered as well: Technology and provenance,
Methodological developments, Dating, Technical ceramics, *Building
materials* Islamic ceramics, and Residue analysis.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/EMAC09/ <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/EMAC09/>














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Saturday 6th of June 2009
A one-day meeting of the Medieval Pottery Research Group at the British
Geological Survey, Kingsley Dunham Centre, Keyworth, Nottingham

The cost for the conference fee is £40, concessions £30. Lunch is included.

Directions to the venue are at
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/contacts/sites/keyworth/kwhome.html

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MPRG Occasional Paper 3* on the Harlow Pottery Industries is now available:

http://www.medievalpottery.org.uk/occpap3.htm

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Posted on behalf of Duncan Brown, president of the Medieval Pottery research
Group:

We at the Medieval Pottery Research Group are saddened by the news of the
death last Friday of Sarah Jennings. Sarah was a significant member of the
Group, serving as Secretary in the early nineties and overseeing momentous
changes to our structure and focus. After working in Norwich, York and
London she became a research officer at English Heritage, where she
continued to work on the development of medieval pottery studies. That
included supporting various grant-aided projects, promoting our Occasional
Paper publication series and setting up training courses, a new round of
which started this year. Her death has come as a shock to all her friends
and colleagues, who are now wondering how we can ever fill the gap she has
left. Sarah was important to a great many people and will be much missed.

Duncan H. Brown

A new book, Current Research in New York Archaeology: A.D. 700-1300, edited
by John Hart and Christina Rieth has just been published by the New York State
Museum. The volume is published as part of the New York State Museum Record
Series. The New York State Museum Record is a peer-reviewed, open-access series
published on an occasional basis by The University of the State of New York/The
State Education Department.
 
The volume is based on a symposium organized for the annual meeting of the New
York State Archaeological Association and highlights the range of archaeological
research being conducted in New York between A.D. 700-1300. The volume is
available at
 http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/publications/record/vol_02/index.html

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