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Re: [Archivists] Archivists archives

Electronic Information Systems Librarian wrote:

> Since 1989 we have been receiving a few community or association newsletters
by email. Until 1999 when the World Centre changed to PC's with NT, we were
using UNIX in a character based environment. Thus such newsletters were saved to
sub-directories of UNIX. More and more such items were being received by the end
of the decade. We used PINE to save the files - many of which we could not even
read at the time.

Not a bad choce. Most web formats have viewers on Unix..

>
> However with the change to PC's and NT during 1998/9, a whole new world opened
up.

(Lots of security holes?)

>
> The Library was granted space to create an INTERNAL Web page. This has been
done, with one section being the "Electronic Collection". To this is saved any
electronically received item we can. At the moment there are 8 parts:
>
> 1. Annual and Convention reports of the National Baha'i Communities
> 2. Electronic Baha'i newsletters
> 3. Electronic Commercial and Scholarly journals
> 4. Miscellaneous
> 5. Online news source archive
> 6. Radio and TV Transcripts
> 7. Theses and Dissertations
> 8. Web page archives.
>
> The goal is to try to save whatever we get in a way that future users will be
able to experience what current users experience. This often means going into
the code or program and changing it so that is viewable in the available suite
of Microsoft tool.

Hate to say it, but Microsoft formats change too often to ever consider
using them as a way of keeping stuff. Even between the same version,
the look of a document can change if you load another program on the
same PC.

>
> Thus the items exist in two places - on the network drive, (sometimes in both
the original format and a local copy but we have not been consistent about
this), and in the Intra-web.
>
Keeping the original can help to reduce the loss of information when you
convert everything to some new format...

> Initially, the Library only had one Web but after about 3 months of building
the Web we suddenly found that all the HTML pages had been "themed" by
Front-page. This is sort of like taking the Mona-Lisa and changing its
background and colours!

Good old "front-page"

>
> For entire web sites, I have been using a program called Web-stripper.
However, I have not yet fully come to terms with it, and sometimes find myself
either saving too much or too little. Further, updating the web page is
problematic. We don't always want to overwrite the existing pages, since they
can be considered an earlier edition, but we don't want to duplicate the entire
site. Thus far we have got around it by first renaming the original sites-home
page saving any image files associated with it to another part of the Web before
updating the entire site. That way we can save a snapshot of what the site used
to look like at different parts of its history.

This is a job for CVS, see my other post.


> At the moment all of this is only visible within our organization - the Baha'i
World Centre and does not exist on our Public Web Site. Various decisions need
to be made before the collection, or parts of it, could be made public.

You would probaly need permison from each of you original authors...

>
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Greetings all, As a new subscriber to the list I tried to access the archivists archives and was informed that there currently are no archives available. Is...
L.H. Grant
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Jul 19, 2000
5:30 pm

Lee, Until your email I'd forgotten the list even existed. Perhaps just to start something I'll describe a little bit of what our library is trying to do in...
Electronic Informatio...
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Jul 20, 2000
6:46 pm

Bryn, good to hear from you, I just downloaded webstripper and it worked fine. I am trying to find a way to archive websites, much like you do, to be viewed by...
Harry Verwayen
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Jul 20, 2000
11:29 pm

L.H. -- thanks for noticing the bug. Here's a repost to the full list! ... Perhaps so, which means that I get to be the second. :-) But seriously, there really...
Aaron Swartz
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Jul 20, 2000
10:57 pm

Hello all Bryn Deamer asked if there were other similar projects to his at the Baha'i World Centre Library, so I thought I'd point out PANDORA at the National ...
Deborah Woodyard
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Jul 21, 2000
4:53 pm

... Why not use a tool that looks like the CVS system? http://www.cyclic.com/CVS/index_html (note that CVS is not really intended to save graphics- so you...
Charles MacDonald
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Jul 24, 2000
3:50 am

The IPROXY product developed by AT&T Labs-Research also provide the function of archiving web pages. It can be downloaded from: ...
David Chiou
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Jul 27, 2000
12:15 am

Harry, I'll answer the easiest question: "Another thing is how do you know when a site has been updated? Are there tools that can notify you when that happens...
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Jul 24, 2000
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... Not a bad choce. Most web formats have viewers on Unix.. ... (Lots of security holes?) ... Hate to say it, but Microsoft formats change too often to ever...
Charles MacDonald
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Jul 24, 2000
3:54 am

For those looking for EAD references and the likes, I like... http://hul.harvard.edu/hul/dfap/dfapcontents.html ...
Bob Mulrenin
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Jul 27, 2000
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