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Re: What was the past like?

As certain texts attest, there were giants in the earth in those days
and the Sons of God (El Elyon) mated with the daughters of men. Why
not call them angels (or reptoids) or the gods themselves? It's not
really fair to regard them as invaders; they were travelers and
investigators of sorts, intent on creating a changeless hive. In
their original home they could best be regarded as dragons.
The caste system of India is the best example, as one of the
remnants of the system of these ancients {based on body shape and
rigidly determined breeding}. That's what the antediluvian global
civilization looked like; it was built as a total autocracy, rooted
in slavery - from the perspective of the early third millennium.
The rigid caste system was excused as a method of helping
humanity to evolve beyond its forgetful condition; individuals would,
on death, remain fixed on the Earth, resonating back into a
particular body shape incarnation after incarnation, theoretically
ascending through the hierarchy placed there to allow a `guided
enlightenment' based on a pyramidal system known as the `way of
Typhon'. This was a method of `enlightenment' attempted en masse,
using a hypnotic thrall laid across the population.


--- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <daughter@g...> wrote:
> There are so many threads to follow here I feel like Ariadne or
maybe
> Theseus. How was this caste system created and what did it look
like?
> Did these invaders interbreed with us or what? And do you mean they
> were actually 'reptid amphibians' like David Icke? Waiting eagerly
> for your reply Uncle.--- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Uncle
> Martin" <martian@m...> wrote:
> > Those who set up these patriarchal civilizations came from not
far
> > away, as these things are counted. They saw themselves as
teachers
> > and a repair crew, in some ways. They had the best of intentions
by
> > their own lights - they believed the best way to preserve those
of
> > Earth was to create a rigidly defined order - a caste system -
> which
> > they believed could ultimately repair the damage done to the
> > collective psyche during the 'fall', a close passage which
sundered
> > the Earth and the equaniity of its inhabitants.
> > That their system was wholly inappropriate to a maternalist
> mammalian
> > people occurred to them not at all - at first.
> > They created enclaves of pyramidal heirarchie based around
> pyramidal
> > civilization centres, ringing the then equatorial regions of the
> > globe.
> > The key point to understand is that the solar system was unstable
> for
> > a long time - catastrophic events occurred and recurred due to
> > interactions with intruders from another system - intruders on a
> > parallel yet far grander scale than that of the reptoid
amphibians
> > who infiltrated Tya, as most indigenes knew her.
> >
> > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Elisha" <elishamcmears@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Yes - very interesting - but why did they come here at all?
> > >
> > > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Bec" <bittavenus@y...>
wrote:
> > > > That is a nice explanation Uncle Martian.
> > > > Nice and simple.
> > > > Thank you : )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Uncle Martin"
> <martian@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > That's an interesting question. what is 'on purpose'? How
> does
> > it
> > > > > differ from accidental incidence? When YOU are involved,
does
> > an
> > > > > accident ever really occur - to you or others?
> > > > > It was done both consciously and not consciously, the
result
> of
> > a
> > > > > feud between the female and male energies which then
existed
> in
> > > that
> > > > > planar net. As a result of that primal schism, 'divide and
> > > conquer'
> > > > > occurred on a planetary scale.
> > > > > 'Division' is the original derivative of the word 'devil'.
> > False
> > > > > dichotomy, the illusion of separation.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Mary" <daughter@g...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > So these entities did it on purposde you mean?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Uncle Martin"
> > > <martian@m...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > The past isn't what it used to be. But once upon a
time,
> > all
> > > were
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > harmony with the spheres and sacred sites. All could
> dance
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > > > tune that changed continuously in response to our own
> > > resonance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then another planet - Typhon, Lucifer, Venus - flew
past
> > the
> > > > > Earth.
> > > > > > > There was a large discharge, a plasma jolt - a
lightning
> > bolt
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > struck the ionosphere and ground of the planet - the
> static
> > > > > > discharge
> > > > > > > when one charged sphere passes close by another. The
> whole
> > > human
> > > > > > > species went into shock and almost all the few
surviving
> > > people,
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > could remember what their ancestors had known and done -

> a
> > > clear
> > > > > > > linear memory that went back thousands of years, so
they
> > > could
> > > > > see
> > > > > > > the larger cycles - nearly all had their long memories
> > > erased. It
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > like a great blow to the head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Entities who felt attached to that planet flying past
> came
> > > here
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > its `fall' toward the Sun and attempted to help. They
> came
> > to
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > Earth and laid their own system upon it – and the fluid
> > > matrix
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > had been forever moving was fixed. Almost all the
people
> > and
> > > > > beings
> > > > > > > who had responded to the music of the spheres in the
> past –
> > > who
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > able to listen to the earth and knew what they had to
do
> by
> > > being
> > > > > > > where they were, appropriately placed – slowly came
under
> > the
> > > > > power
> > > > > > > of those visitors who had fixed their vision to the
> energy
> > of
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > planet by building their own temples and energy systems
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > sacred
> > > > > > > sites, laying their own patterns within the planetary
> mind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does this begin to answer your question?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "Mary"
<daughter@g...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi uncle Martian - you there? I was wondering if you
> > could
> > > tell
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > the world was really ever like the Wicca stories -
you
> > know
> > > the
> > > > > > > Celtic
> > > > > > > > fantasies and all that? Were they ever real?
> > > > > > > > thanks.





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There are so many threads to follow here I feel like Ariadne or maybe Theseus. How was this caste system created and what did it look like? Did these invaders...
Mary
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Jun 20, 2005
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As certain texts attest, there were giants in the earth in those days and the Sons of God (El Elyon) mated with the daughters of men. Why not call them angels...
Uncle Martin
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Jul 7, 2005
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So does that mean we're there descendants? ... days ... would, ... they ... eagerly ... intentions ... the ... unstable ... a ... <elishamcmears@y...> ... and ...
Elisha
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Jul 10, 2005
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We are, almost all of us, the partial offspring of a consciousnesses which laid down their own culture, vision and bloodline upon this planet, to try and help...
Uncle Martin
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Jul 23, 2005
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So you mean we're descended from space-people that lived here before they went to other planets? Sounds like chariots of the gods or something! Where did they...
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Venus, as it is now known, did not directly strike Mars, but passed close by, destroying its entire biosphere down to bedrock. Ares had been colonised by the...
Uncle Martin
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Aug 14, 2005
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Well don't just leave us hanging! There must be more? ... ARtists ... Only ... very ... spirituality ... here ... do ... physically. ... pass ... from ... this...
shalia c. mesmer
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Oct 6, 2005
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Many who decided not to use their power of hypnotic domination against the indigenous hominids were killed by them. They were sacrificed in the true sense of...
Uncle Martin
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Oct 22, 2005
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So you're saying its the same as colonisers and indigenous people today? ... to ... body ... many ... way ... Ares ... life, ... future. ... a ... food, ... ...
Nell
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Oct 28, 2005
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Yesterday's and today's colonisers are the same entiries caught in a congealing dance from which they must free themselves. It's a corollary of the caste...
Uncle Martin
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Oct 28, 2005
9:31 am

You mean they reincarnated in similar bodies over and over? Is it like the morphogenetic field theory whereall similarly shaped life resonates with itself? ......
shalia c. mesmer
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Oct 29, 2005
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Exactly. If you believe in the 'morphogenetic field' theory of causative formation - or even the principle of like unto like - Brahmin incarnated into Brahmin...
Uncle Martin
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Nov 3, 2005
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So you mean the planet itself decided, as in the conqueror is always eventually absorbed? Is that what happened? ... alter ... of ... separating ... leading ...
shalia c. mesmer
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Nov 5, 2005
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Well put. Precisely. None of this could have happened and these beings could not come here unless the planetary entities, the planetary consciousnesses, agreed...
Uncle Martin
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Nov 18, 2005
12:08 pm

Conquerors are usually absorbed; but these particular conquerors were aware of this, which is why they set up such a static purification system to distill...
Uncle Martin
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Nov 18, 2005
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So how do you develop a long memory? ... were ... Change ... into a ... on ... would ... gave ... disparate ... them. ... Is ... shaped ... It's a ... had ... ...
free
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Nov 25, 2005
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Memory is memory, in this life or any other; mem mare, seeing through the waters. training memory will lead to intimations of 'truth'. Some maintain long...
Uncle Martin
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Dec 11, 2005
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In the SAME body? Who, for instance? ... through ... access ... but ... conquerors ... very ... of ... forms, ... of ... over? ... entiries ... untouchables, ...
Mary
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Dec 12, 2005
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Yes, in the same body - or a succession of bodies; think in dynastic terms and it becomes clearer. There are ways to inhabit a succession of bodies...
Uncle Martin
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Dec 22, 2005
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So you mean it's all something like intentional trans-planetary incarnation? They say we don't remember our past incarnations until we can handle them. ... ...
Mary
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Dec 23, 2005
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That's basically correct - and is partly because when you 'go back' in your memory the things you remember most easily and vividly are the most intense things...
Uncle Martin
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Dec 26, 2005
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Well, red Is the colour of passion, isn't it? The colour of the heart? ... feature ... into ... and ... until ... same ... and ... who ... allows ... methods ...
Mary
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Jan 11, 2006
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Red is the colour of a type of passion and the colour of the physical hominid heart and blood – but not the colour of the truer, deeper heart energy, which...
Uncle Martin
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Jan 12, 2006
4:31 am

Happy new year uncle Martian! Even though it's so obvious many people still think the idea of reincarnation is crazy. What do i say to them? ... physical ... ...
shalia c. mesmer
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Jan 16, 2006
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Hi shalia nad mary and especiaally Uncle Martin and happy new year! Yeah, what about reincarnation?--- In askmartian@yahoogroups.com, "shalia c. mesmer"...
Elisha
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Jan 17, 2006
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Happy Year of the Torch-flame Dog! Fully conscious reincarnation does not happen for most people in the early 21st Century. The concept of reincarnation may...
Uncle Martin
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Feb 8, 2006
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Maybe that's what we want to forget, the fact we are immortal. Maybe this infinity of life we have is what we want to forget, not bearing immortality. Is this...
Mary
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Feb 10, 2006
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Humans have created a memory block between themselves and their own immortality; but this has been reinforced by deliberate occlusions laid down over the eyes...
Uncle Martin
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Feb 16, 2006
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I've heard these stories about Venus before - do you mean to say planets were playing pool with each other in history? What do you mean, when did Venus have...
Mary
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The core of the shattered planet which resided where the best-known asteroid belt resides spiralled away, way out of the ecliptic – the orbital plane of most...
Uncle Martin
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