Moishe,

Having clicking the photo on this web site, I have already inspired
with some ideas on my mind. I wonder whether you can help me.

Yet, I can't find the birth data of the photo you've posted. Can you
provide the birth data of the following person:
021211-3
030411-1 (I know she's Lois Rodden)
030411-3
040411-3
050311-1
071111-4
090811-1
121211-1
121211-3

I would really appreciate if you can do it.

Thanks,
Jason



--- In astrofaces@yahoogroups.com, "jasonfan2003" <jasonfan2003@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, All
>
> Let me clarify 2 things first. First, there's a typing mistake on
my
> message. "I cannot read German." I would appreciate if Moishe can
> help me to correct my original message because I can't modify it.
> Second thing is I am not from Japan. Hong Kong is a part of China
> now and it used to be a British colonies before 1997. And, I am a
> Chinese.
>
> John,
> I am sure your idea will not work. You've presumed that people
born
> with the same Sun Sign are sharing specific features. The idea of
> narrowing down the criteria of testing scheme is very good.
However,
> you've making it too simple. I don't know how your expertise in
> astrology. But, I hope you can understand the following example.
>
> People who are sharing the same Sun Sign, Moon Sign and Ascendant
> may or may not look alike in facial appearance. For any same
> combination of this, there is a time period of 2 hours differences
> in the same Ascendant Sign. The Sign of Ascendant changes around
> every 2 hours. In other words, there's 30 degrees of differences.
> Although 2 persons are sharing the same combinations, the aspects
to
> their Ascendant can be various extremely. For example, if
Ascendant
> of person A received a square from Jupiter and Ascendant of person
B
> received an opposition from Saturn. The result will definitely
make
> the 2 person look really different in facial characteristics. In
> this case the influences of Jupiter have overrides the
> characteristics of Sun Sign, Moon Sign and Ascendant. Whereas in
> person B's chart, the same happened to Saturn.
>
> Do you understand what I said? This explained why I am looking for
> Edith Wangemann's works those day. I cannot read German and I have
> no way to access her old journal "Sein und Werden". As far as I
> known, her work has never been published in books. I wonder if you
> can contact any of her students in German. Her project has ended
in
> success as Dr. Geoffrery Dean mentioned in his book, 'Recent
> Advances in Natal Astrology".
>
> Cheers,
> Jason Fan (From Hong Kong)
>
>
>
> --- In astrofaces@yahoogroups.com, "John Gilbert(3)"
> <johngilbertpttraverse@> wrote:
> >
> > Sent to: Moishe and jason in Japan
> > How about reverse engineering the question with two advantages
a)
> & b)
> > Get the public to send in their photos ( snail mail plus
email ) -
> 3 or more pictures of a person, by
> > a) offering to have astroface try to find their double ( a
letter
> explaining the process could be copied from the astroface
website.
> When anyone sees a potential 'double' on the street, they can hand
> the stranger the astroface letter and say "I think that a friend
of
> mine is your double, so give me your email and phone number and
I'll
> tell them to contact you." and/or "Go to abc where he/she works
and
> see for yourself" The prestigiously worded letter handed out at
the
> same time as you speak removes the fear of a stranger approaching,
> and the human nature ego response of most recipients is teased by
> > b) the intrigue of finding someone who looks exactly like them.)
> >
> > Moishe, since most people only know the Sun sign, this would
focus
> on the Sun sign ( only for this proposed project ). Once you have
> posted the photo matches perhaps you can attempt to analize for
> matches of their more error prone moon or ascendant. Without
> presuming what forces contribute to the face, this approach might
> show that the Sun sign controls more of specific features. Am I
> nuts, or if it's not too labour intensive do you think you could
> modify this idea into something useful ?
> > Jason seems to be on track - Someone who speaks/writes in German
> needs to do a lot of detective googling and probe for lost friends
> of Edith Wangemann in Germany.
> > Regards,
> > John Gilbert - vintage Feb. 18, 1936 - godhas4legs@ - Toronto,
> Canada - 416.481.5668 phone PM only (away in the country Friday to
> Monday for much of the summer)
> > Forward this message thread far and w-i-d-e
> > because you do have a double out there ... somewhere.
> > ====
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: jasonfan2003
> > To: astrofaces@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 3:27 AM
> > Subject: [astrofaces] Re: further research
> >
> >
> > Very impressive web site! I really want to discuss with you
> about
> > this whole project.
> >
> > Throughout the years, I've been doing researches on astrology
> > myself. One of the most interesting topic is how the natal
chart
> can
> > reflect our appearances. What I want to say for the moment is
> that
> > the way to find this out would not be as simple as your
> assumptions,
> > i.e. Sun Sign + Moon Sign + Ascendant Sign.
> >
> > There're couple of astrologers putting efforts on similar
> researchs
> > like your in human history. One of the best books on this
topic
> > is "Astrological body types" written by Judith Hill. Although
> the
> > book has given a lot of valuable information on this topic,
none
> of
> > them can be repeatedly duplicated in real life cases. You
> results
> > will probably come out like hers. 3 or 4 of 10 cases are
> strangely
> > outstanding. The rest 6 or 7 cases does not work. I believe
the
> > method used (such as Sun Sign + Moon Sign + Ascendant Sign) is
> not
> > correct or too simple.
> >
> > Until I was able to buy the out-of-print book "Recent Advances
> in
> > Astrology" by Geoffrey Dean, I have some idea how should the
> method
> > to be applied. The book has mentioned about the successful
works
> of
> > Edith Wangemann. But, I'm very disappointed that the
information
> is
> > not detail enough. The only thing I know is that there are
some
> co-
> > relations found between the cusps of Koch House system and
Human
> > faces. The problem is that I can read German and I would not
be
> able
> > to reach further information about Edith Wangemann's work.
> >
> > Althought she has just passed away, I was wonder if you will
be
> able
> > to find the further information of her works.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jason Fan (From Hong Kong)
> >
> > --- In astrofaces@yahoogroups.com, Moshe Berlin <mosheberlin@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > good question,
> > > we don't add celebrity photos for several reasons:
> > > 1) we don't have their permission
> > > 2) their birthdata is even less reliable than the
information
> > we have now
> > > 3) so many public personalities have cosmetic surgery.
> > > there might be a few in the database that people sent in the
> > staff didn't recognize, but please don't send celebrity photos.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hpi_97 <caroline.rains@> wrote: What about posting
> > photos of public personalities whose birth
> > > charts are known? That way, there would be many more pictures
> > > to base a research project on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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