Actually, I have five Atari computers. Most of those are spares (ya never know
:)).
I don't use them together though. The Mega is in my "studio" running stuff
there. I use a 1040 in my bedroom along with a little keyboard in case the
writing mood strikes me. That way I don't have to spend all that time firing up
all that crap in the studio.

I will probably start running two STs together soon though. I have heard that
Depeche Mode used two STs linked together (both running Notator SL) for the
"Ultra" album. Pretty cool endorsement if you ask me!


Laurence

Tim Conrardy wrote:

> From: "Tim Conrardy" <tconrardy@...>
>
> >>Lawrence said:
> >>
> >My midi setup (if anyone's interested) :)
>
> I AM!!
> >
> >Atari MegaSTe 4 w/ Export and Unitor II
> >Atari 1040STe w/ 4 megs
>
> Do you use these two systems together via midi Hookup?
>
> I found using TWO systems can be very benificial. You can have one running a
> sequencer like Notator or Cubase, and have the other running (for
> example)Ludwig, and record stright into the sequencer the Ludwig stuff.
>
> I soppose many people have a "spare" system in case one goes. I was thankful
> for my spare 520ST when my 1040Ste went out (pwr supply)
> However instead of putting that spare in the closet...put it to good use and
> set it up just to run certain apps.As soon as my 1040Ste is fixed, I might
> set up my 520 just to run Music Mouse...boy ..then I will have 3 systems
> going!
>
> For hookups and Info, see my page under "Using TWO atari Systems."
>
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Two questions.

1) Can I use my Zip or Jaz drives on my 1040ST and how?

2) What is the best way to convert SNG files from Dr T's KCS Omega to
MID files?
	 So far I've had limitations of the number of measures I can convert
at one time. So far I have only seen how to convert SEQ 	  files but
not entire songs.

>>
>>i recently won a bid on ebay for a falcon and am waiting its arrival. can
>anyone tell me how its stability compares to the ste which is rock solid?
>also, i heard i might need a scsi patch on the bus for more stability...???
>any opinions? should i stick with the ste?
>harry =)


A little while ago, I helped a friend get a falcon, and I configured it and
set it up for midi. He is real happy with it, and it seems very solid. There
are a lot more digital Audio stuff you can do with it, plus a lot more
resolutions to work with. It also works on a regular SVGA monitor, so you
can get a BIG display if you want. Sometime I would like to get a falcon
myself.There are a lot of Falcon-specific midi /audio stuff that won't run
on an STe/St or even TT. It's a different bird, but very cool and compact
unit.

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>From: "Tim Conrardy" <tconrardy@...>
>WOW...you can use those big of a HD on an STfm? and the St is RackMounted?
>Must be nice when it comes CONCERT TIME.An Atari-in-a rack!

The STfm is rackmounted standard 19" which helps with cable routing etc.
I bought this from System Solutions years ago and also bought the
floating (not literally!) Mega keyboard which is a lot better than the
standard ST one - more positive action. With MagiC/HDDriver you can use
the larger drives ok within reason. 2 HD's are used for general
storage and 1 for Audio WAV files (1 GB partitions) for CD recording.

>EVS1,
>I was always wondering what synth this was. I found a Fantastic editor for
>it for Atari of all things. Just looking and exploring the editor makes me
>want to see if I can find this synth. Can you tell us what this synth is?

The editor is better than the synth ;-) It's basically an attempt to
have a multi-timbral rack module with various types of synthesis on
board to choose from : Subtractive, FM etc but like most of these type
of thing fails because of the diversity - jack of all trades, master
of none. Having said that it's fine for layering.

>>Analog       : CS30,2x CS15,CS10,2x CS5, SH101, SH1000
>Hey hey...a Yamaha CS-5 owner I see. I love mine!

Yep, always have always will be! :-) great little synths. I've
modified the cut-off/res to be externally controlled via the Kenton
pro4 and is excellent for "acidy" type things. The CS30 is imho a
fantastic synth although a bit complex at first. CS15's are in my
opinion even better value than the Roland SH101 these days as they
generally sell for a lot cheaper and are brilliant with a bit of
chorus and reverb....sorry I digress ;-)

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>hello all.my setup consists of:
>....alesis quadraverb

Harry, have you got the Quinsoft editor/librarian for the Quadraverb?
I'ts really handy for storing your patches. If not I'll try to locate
the URL.

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Just got a response from Chas about his Microtuning files. Looks like his ST
is dead. Anybody here that live in the UK that can help him get a new ST, or
help in repairing his ?
Looks like he is willing to release them, he just does not have access to
the files. Anybody have these files, so then I can put them on my KCS page
for everyone to use?(of course with Chas's permission)

Tim
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>From: Chas <chas@...>
>To: Tim Conrardy <tconrardy@...>
>Subject: Re: PVG microtuning tables
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:51:41 +0000
>
>Hi Tim
>
>The only problem I have is that my Atari is dead.  If I could get access
>to an ST I _might_ be able to lift them from my old HD.  Any
>Suggestions?
>
>> >
> > Chas
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The Atari is the best compositional tool as it is quiet, uncomplicated,
stable, and Creator is very powerful--more than I need.  I subscribe to the
Brian Eno view that less is more.
>

Now thats a great statement!


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>>Lawrence said:
>>
>My midi setup (if anyone's interested) :)



I AM!!
>
>Atari MegaSTe 4 w/ Export and Unitor II
>Atari 1040STe w/ 4 megs

Do you use these two systems together via midi Hookup?

I found using TWO systems can be very benificial. You can have one running a
sequencer like Notator or Cubase, and have the other running (for
example)Ludwig, and record stright into the sequencer the Ludwig stuff.

I soppose many people have a "spare" system in case one goes. I was thankful
for my spare 520ST when my 1040Ste went out (pwr supply)
However instead of putting that spare in the closet...put it to good use and
set it up just to run certain apps.As soon as my 1040Ste is fixed, I might
set up my 520 just to run Music Mouse...boy ..then I will have 3 systems
going!

For hookups and Info, see my page under "Using TWO atari Systems."

Tim

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>At 19:45 +0100  21-03-2000, tconrardy@... wrote:
>
> >Looks like this list is getting bigger. 12 people now, in just two
> >days.I think we can start some discussions.


TODAY..there are 24 on the list...getting bigger, and it's only been Three
days now!!!
> >
> >Hallvard wrote:
>Here I go....


Hey Hallvard: I was always wondering what stuff you had. Quite impressive.
It looks like we all have a wide veriety of Synths with a common ground of
Atari for sequencing and editing.I think it's OK to talk about Synths in
general here if you want to, since they go hand-in-hand. Plus all the
editing software available for our "babies" so we can really explore the
innards.

Just last night I was using the PD software for the MT-32 called
MT-Thirtytwo.(effectivly named!) Actually quite nice. It works on TT-HI so I
can spread out the different windows. However the MT-32 is way different as
far as setup then say a DX7 which is stright forward as far as patch
allocation.To get at my user voices on the MT-32, I have to do a set-up for
it and put the user patches to each "Voice". Anybody here work with an
MT-32? I would like to do patch changes in Cubase, but I can only access the
"ROM" voices and not the user voices. The Mt-32 has some great filters, but
you can only use them effectivly in USER patches.

Tim
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>Tim, did you say that it would work with a 1040STf ?  Larry
>----------
> >
>That is a good Q. I know it was made for the TT030 and is a regular VGA out
>connector and NOT the din type connector used on ST's. However, you can get
>an adapter now so you can use any Multi-synced VGA monitor (from Best
>Electronics and Mario Bencroft..might have mispelled his name)

Tim
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At 19:45 +0100  21-03-2000, tconrardy@... wrote:

>Looks like this list is getting bigger. 12 people now, in just two
>days.I think we can start some discussions.
>
>I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
>favorite apps, ect and what your setups are as far as midi equipment.

Here I go....
My system compromises of an STe with 4 Mb RAM and TOS 2.06. I've hacked
the innards by adding an internal battery backed clock, a serial
(modem) port modification which allows for faster than 14400 baud
modems, and added a new disk drive/electronics for using HD (1.44
Mbyte) disks.
A 540 Mbyte Quantum SCSI drive is connected via an ICD "Link II", the
Atari "brick" (mouse) has been replaced with a System Solutions mouse.
For display I'm using an Atari SM-144 mono monitor (14").

For MIDI software I use Notator SL (I also run the Notator/Creator SL
mailing list, which anyone using those programs is welcome to join -see
URL in my signature for more info).

My musical equipment:

-Roland JX-8P synth
-Roland SH-101 synth (connected to MIDI via a Kenton electronics PRO-2
  MIDI-CV/gate converter)
-Roland D-110 synth module
-Yamaha TX-81Z synth module
-Yamaha TX-16W sampler module
-Moog Minimoog synth
-Studio Electronics SE-1 synth module
-Roland TR-808 drum machine
-Oberheim DMX drum machine
-Boss BX-16 mixer
-ART SGE Mach II effects unit
-Roland A-880 MIDI patchbay
-Simmons drum pad unit

I'm probably going to sell the Minimoog now that I've gotten hold of an
SE-1, and found out that it does a good Moog replacement (but with
memory, rack mount, MIDI without the hassle etc.)

The TX-16W sampler does its job just fine, especially with the free
release of an alternative operating system a couple of months ago,
which has given it new life.
I'm also on the TX16W mailing list, and have gotten a few Atari
programmers to make utilities for this sampler!

I have a couple of never-ending projects as well; completing a rack
mounted vocoder among other things. I'm also planning to make a dual
MIDI-THRU unit and finally a rack mounted Atari ST, with an internal
IDE harddisk, CD-ROM, PC keyboard and mouse interface and probably
multiple MIDI-OUT connectors. The ultimate sequencing computer!

Having said all of this, there's not much time for making music... I
guess I spend too much time with my websites (check out my Atari
Launchpad, URL in my signature, and go to the MIDI/sound section where
you'll find lots of cool software and links, among them some
ex-commercial packages which Tom Conrardy has urged the programmers to
release freely. Thanks for your work Tim! (let's hope Steinberg and
Emagic will follow in those footsteps and release Cubase and Notator SL
as freeware too).


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hello all.my setup consists of:
1040ste with cubase, ensoniq asr-10, mackie24 x 4, novation supernova, emu
orbit v3, alesis 3630 compressor, alesis quadraverb and sony dat machine.
i recently won a bid on ebay for a falcon and am waiting its arrival. can
anyone tell me how its stability compares to the ste which is rock solid?
also, i heard i might need a scsi patch on the bus for more stability...???
any opinions? should i stick with the ste?
harry =)

You've got a good range of possibilities for making music, Laurence.  What
kind of music do you play or how would you describe your tunes?  I mess
around in the fringes of classical and jazz with ;music that has alot of
space and ambiguous lines.  Larry
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>From: Laurence Shields <laurenceshields@...>
>To: atari-midi@onelist.com
>Subject: Re: [atari-midi] INTRODUCTIONS
>Date: Tue, Mar 21, 2000, 2:40 PM
>

>From: Laurence Shields <laurenceshields@...>
>
>First let me thank Tim for all his efforts!
>
>My midi setup (if anyone's interested) :)
>
>Atari MegaSTe 4 w/ Export and Unitor II
>Atari 1040STe w/ 4 megs
>Emagic Notator SL
>Emagic Logic 2.01
>Dr.T XoR 2.0
>Super Librarian
>Hybrid Arts Ludwig
>...others
>
>Korg 01/W ProX
>Ensoniq Mirage x 2
>Ensoniq ESQm
>Oberheim OB-8
>Roland Juno-106
>Linndrum
>Roland R8m
>Kurzweil K2000RS
>Kurzweil K2500RS
>Novation Super Bass Station
>Akai S950
>Yamaha DX7 w/E!
>Yamaha TX216
>Peavey Spectrum Bass
>
>JL Cooper Synapse MIDI patchbay
>
>Cheers everyone,
>Laurence
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>Date: Tue, Mar 21, 2000, 2:56 PM
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>From: "Tim Conrardy" <tconrardy@...>
>
>
>
>>>
>>You have a 19" monitor?  What is the model and make?  I'm using the 12"
>>Atari.  Is bigger better?
>>Larry
>
>It is an Atari TM1995 (I believe) and it is 1280x960 res which makes for
>some great territory. Very lucky to have it. It is Mono, but that is OK for
>midi work anyway. It works on a TT and the TT calles it TT HI (just like on
>an st it is ST HI)
>
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>You have a 19" monitor?  What is the model and make?  I'm using the 12"
>Atari.  Is bigger better?
>Larry

It is an Atari TM1995 (I believe) and it is 1280x960 res which makes for
some great territory. Very lucky to have it. It is Mono, but that is OK for
midi work anyway. It works on a TT and the TT calles it TT HI (just like on
an st it is ST HI)


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First let me thank Tim for all his efforts!

My midi setup (if anyone's interested) :)

Atari MegaSTe 4 w/ Export and Unitor II
Atari 1040STe w/ 4 megs
Emagic Notator SL
Emagic Logic 2.01
Dr.T XoR 2.0
Super Librarian
Hybrid Arts Ludwig
...others

Korg 01/W ProX
Ensoniq Mirage x 2
Ensoniq ESQm
Oberheim OB-8
Roland Juno-106
Linndrum
Roland R8m
Kurzweil K2000RS
Kurzweil K2500RS
Novation Super Bass Station
Akai S950
Yamaha DX7 w/E!
Yamaha TX216
Peavey Spectrum Bass

JL Cooper Synapse MIDI patchbay

Cheers everyone,
Laurence

You have a 19" monitor?  What is the model and make?  I'm using the 12"
Atari.  Is bigger better?
Larry
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>To: atari-midi@onelist.com (tconrardy@...)
>Subject: Re: [atari-midi] INTRODUCTIONS
>Date: Tue, Mar 21, 2000, 1:17 PM
>

>From: simon.walton@...
>
>Greetings!
>
>>From: tconrardy@...
>>
>>Hello All:
>>
>>
>>Looks like this list is getting bigger. 12 people now, in just two
>>days.I think we can start some discussions.
>
> I thought this list would be popular. I had some slight problems
>joining due to my Newsie not liking the long e-mail address they
>replied to me with. If anybody else has the same problem, then mention it
>here, and I'll try to get Onelist to do something about it
>
>>
>>I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
>>favorite apps, ect and what your setups are as far as midi equipment.
>
>There's a list of my stuff at the bottom (it's not that big). I'm
>going to try and make it my signature if I can work out how that's
>done.
>>Myself: I have a TT030 with 780M HD and Laser printer with the 19"
>>1280x960 res Mono monitor (atari) Got that all with Cubase installed
>>for $200.00!Also have a 1 meg  520ST I use to run my "algo-comp"
>>stuff and record right into Cubase or KCS on the TT.I run Notator on
>>it as well. Still learning that one .My friend just recently went to
>>Macs and Gave me all his Atari stuff including Notator with the
>>dongle and Docs.! Hallvard has a Notator list which I am a part which
>>deals with Notator specific stuff (thanks Hallvard)I use a 360M HD
>>with the 520St. Most of the time I just run from disc.(untill I get
>>my 4 M 1040STe fixed!...needs a pwr supply)
>
> I am still amazed that you can use that amount of stuff and keep
>it together. I just use the one sequencer myself, Concerto, which is a
>fairly cheap commercial one (by Cubase standards anyway).
> I will be pleased to find at least on other person in the world who
>uses Concerto as I never hear it mentioned.
>
>>
>>For Software, I have Hundreds of stuff. That is what I like about
>>Atari is the Uniqueness of the midi apps. You won't find stuff like
>>this on any other platform.My Favs are Cubase, Tunesmith,Music
>>Mouse,Omega II, Notator and XOR, just to name a few.
>>
>>For Equipment I use a lot of FM stuff: Dx7, Tx7,Fb01, TQ5,
>>PSR510,also a Kawai k1m,Ensoniq Mirage, TX81P Piano Module, a roland
>>Mt-32 and some analog gear. (check out my Page under STUDIO)This
>>stuff is fairly cheap now, so it's worth it to get some FM modules.
>>Just got a TX7 for 75.00!I have editing software for all of it: XOR,
>>DX-heaven, Xanalizer, Beamteam and the YS-Editors.
>
>My own hardware list is pretty small (see below). I have only recently
>bought the Kawai GMega and it didn't have a manual, but I hoped
>(correctly) that having used the K1 II, I would be able to work out the
>basics.
>
> I would still like to have a manual, If anybody knows of one or a UK
>source of manual copies ( I've seen plenty of American sources) then
>please let me know.
>
> Also. does anyone know of an atari editor/librarian for the Kawai
> GMega/k11 ?
>                                  Cheers,  Simon.
>
>
>*    4mb Falcon (main sequencer)                                 *
>*    4mb ste with internal hardrive (patch editing mainly)       *
>*    Kawai K1 II                                                 *
>*    Kawai GMega                                                 *
>*    Yamaha DD12 drum pads (for recording drum tracks)           *
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Well my MIDI setup consists of 1040STf, SyquestEZFlyer hard drive, JV2080,
Alesis QS8, Korg wavestation SR, N1R,and 03RW, various effects units, and TC
Finalizer.  The Atari is the best
compositional tool as it is quiet, uncomplicated, stable, and Creator is
very powerful--more than I need.  I subscribe to the Brian Eno view that
less is more.

Anyone out there have MIDI setups similar to mine?   Larry
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>Subject: Re: [atari-midi] INTRODUCTIONS
>Date: Tue, Mar 21, 2000, 1:32 PM
>

>From: s.barbieri@...
>
>Hi Tim,
>
>Well done sorting the list out - and so quickly! just seems 2 secs ago
>you were mentioning the idea on csast!
>
>I am a bit rusty these days but have always used Notator SL and really
>love it. When I get time I'm going to try to get back into it as I miss
>actually using my gear these days as my (ex)home studio has now turned
>into my 2 daughter's bedroom - for younger viewers this happens to
>most of us! ;-)
>
>>I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
>If you insist :-) My basic system for music is:
>
>Atari STfm Rackmounted (4MB RAM,TOS 2.06)
>Storage: 1x 2 GB Hard disk.
>       : 2x 4.5 GB Hardisks.
>       : NEC CD ROM
>       : iOmega Zip 100
>       : Yamaha CDRW 4416SX
>
>Extras : C-Lab Export
>
>Selected Software: C-Lab Notator SL - My main sequencer.
>                 : Steinberg D50 Synthworks - Favourite editor
>                 : Steinberg Cubase - as a backup to Notator
>                 : C-Lab Explorer 1000 - Matrix 1000 editor
>                 : Dump-it - syx utility
>
>Synths/Modules(Midi) : D50,D550,TX81Z,MKS70,JUNO 60,Matrix 1000,Microwave,
>                     : XE8, EX800, EVS1, TR505
>Samplers     : Emax2,S700
>Effects(Midi): Quadraverb,Midiverb
>Interfaces   : Pro4, 2x Midi2CV
>Analog       : CS30,2x CS15,CS10,2x CS5, SH101, SH1000
>
>I have used the Atari since 1990. Until the last 8 months that is
>*all* I used it for. Now I'm online with it and don't know what I'd do
>without it now.
>Incidently am also a member of the Onelist group "Lugnuts" which is
>for the Linear Arithmetic range of synths.
>
>Looking forward to reading other member's postings.
>
>Best Wishes
>Sean
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> >I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
>If you insist :-) My basic system for music is:
>
>Atari STfm Rackmounted (4MB RAM,TOS 2.06)
>Storage: 1x 2 GB Hard disk.
>        : 2x 4.5 GB Hardisks.
>        : NEC CD ROM
>        : iOmega Zip 100
>        : Yamaha CDRW 4416SX

WOW...you can use those big of a HD on an STfm? and the St is RackMounted?
Must be nice when it comes CONCERT TIME.An Atari-in-a rack!

>
>Extras : C-Lab Export
>
>Selected Software: C-Lab Notator SL - My main sequencer.
>                  : Steinberg D50 Synthworks - Favourite editor
>                  : Steinberg Cubase - as a backup to Notator
>                  : C-Lab Explorer 1000 - Matrix 1000 editor
>                  : Dump-it - syx utility



Good set of S/w.
>
>Synths/Modules(Midi) : D50,D550,TX81Z,MKS70,JUNO 60,Matrix 1000,Microwave,:
>XE8, EX800,



EVS1,


I was always wondering what synth this was. I found a Fantastic editor for
it for Atari of all things. Just looking and exploring the editor makes me
want to see if I can find this synth. Can you tell us what this synth is?


TR505
>Samplers     : Emax2,S700
>Effects(Midi): Quadraverb,Midiverb
>Interfaces   : Pro4, 2x Midi2CV
>Analog       : CS30,2x CS15,CS10,2x CS5, SH101, SH1000


Hey hey...a Yamaha CS-5 owner I see. I love mine!
>
>I have used the Atari since 1990. Until the last 8 months that is
>*all* I used it for. Now I'm online with it and don't know what I'd do
>without it now.


I feel the same way.


>Thanks for your post!!


Tim

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>From: "Philippe Elie" <pelie@...>

>Now I use regularly (ie. almost everyday) my trusty Atari with Cubase
>V3 and a bunch of utilities, most of which have been developed
>specifically for my setup using GFA basic : a sound librarian to

  I've been thinking of trying some programming myself, especially in the
  area of patch editors/librarians. Could you give a brief description of
  what you've developed.
  I'm not that familiar with GFA Basic, but have used Hisoft Basic a
  bit, I believe GFA is available free somewhere.

>directly send patches in Sysex to JD800, DX7 and D110 while running
>Cubase (as accessory, it allows to select sounds by category, and
>send them instantly by clicking on them) and a "total recall" that
>restores all patches in my synths when a load a sequence.
>I think the Atari is still a great tool for musicians who want to
>concentrate on playing and composing music. It boots in seconds and
>is so straightforward to use (no/very few mouse clicking, just
>hitting the keyboard) that it does not require to watch constanly
>small icons on the computer screen.
>The rest of my setup is composed of Yamaha DX7IIFD, FB01, Roland
>JD800, D110, U220, Akai S2800 sampler and a VS1680 recorder (that
>syncs fine for the Atari in MTC) that I use to compose mostly dance
>music ( http://www.mp3.com/PhilippeElie )

I will give this a listen now that it is possible to play mp3's on my
falcon. It can only manage mono ATM but I believe this will alter as
the player develops.


                                            Cheers,  Simon.

Greetings!

>From: tconrardy@...
>
>Hello All:
>
>
>Looks like this list is getting bigger. 12 people now, in just two
>days.I think we can start some discussions.

  I thought this list would be popular. I had some slight problems
joining due to my Newsie not liking the long e-mail address they
replied to me with. If anybody else has the same problem, then mention it
here, and I'll try to get Onelist to do something about it

>
>I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
>favorite apps, ect and what your setups are as far as midi equipment.

There's a list of my stuff at the bottom (it's not that big). I'm
going to try and make it my signature if I can work out how that's
done.
>Myself: I have a TT030 with 780M HD and Laser printer with the 19"
>1280x960 res Mono monitor (atari) Got that all with Cubase installed
>for $200.00!Also have a 1 meg  520ST I use to run my "algo-comp"
>stuff and record right into Cubase or KCS on the TT.I run Notator on
>it as well. Still learning that one .My friend just recently went to
>Macs and Gave me all his Atari stuff including Notator with the
>dongle and Docs.! Hallvard has a Notator list which I am a part which
>deals with Notator specific stuff (thanks Hallvard)I use a 360M HD
>with the 520St. Most of the time I just run from disc.(untill I get
>my 4 M 1040STe fixed!...needs a pwr supply)

  I am still amazed that you can use that amount of stuff and keep
it together. I just use the one sequencer myself, Concerto, which is a
fairly cheap commercial one (by Cubase standards anyway).
  I will be pleased to find at least on other person in the world who
uses Concerto as I never hear it mentioned.

>
>For Software, I have Hundreds of stuff. That is what I like about
>Atari is the Uniqueness of the midi apps. You won't find stuff like
>this on any other platform.My Favs are Cubase, Tunesmith,Music
>Mouse,Omega II, Notator and XOR, just to name a few.
>
>For Equipment I use a lot of FM stuff: Dx7, Tx7,Fb01, TQ5,
>PSR510,also a Kawai k1m,Ensoniq Mirage, TX81P Piano Module, a roland
>Mt-32 and some analog gear. (check out my Page under STUDIO)This
>stuff is fairly cheap now, so it's worth it to get some FM modules.
>Just got a TX7 for 75.00!I have editing software for all of it: XOR,
>DX-heaven, Xanalizer, Beamteam and the YS-Editors.

My own hardware list is pretty small (see below). I have only recently
bought the Kawai GMega and it didn't have a manual, but I hoped
(correctly) that having used the K1 II, I would be able to work out the
basics.

  I would still like to have a manual, If anybody knows of one or a UK
source of manual copies ( I've seen plenty of American sources) then
please let me know.

  Also. does anyone know of an atari editor/librarian for the Kawai
  GMega/k11 ?
                                   Cheers,  Simon.


*    4mb Falcon (main sequencer)                                 *
*    4mb ste with internal hardrive (patch editing mainly)       *
*    Kawai K1 II                                                 *
*    Kawai GMega                                                 *
*    Yamaha DD12 drum pads (for recording drum tracks)           *
*                                                                *
*    Concerto sequencer                                          *
*    Various KI editors                                          *

Hi Tim,

Well done sorting the list out - and so quickly! just seems 2 secs ago
you were mentioning the idea on csast!

I am a bit rusty these days but have always used Notator SL and really
love it. When I get time I'm going to try to get back into it as I miss
actually using my gear these days as my (ex)home studio has now turned
into my 2 daughter's bedroom - for younger viewers this happens to
most of us! ;-)

>I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
If you insist :-) My basic system for music is:

Atari STfm Rackmounted (4MB RAM,TOS 2.06)
Storage: 1x 2 GB Hard disk.
        : 2x 4.5 GB Hardisks.
        : NEC CD ROM
        : iOmega Zip 100
        : Yamaha CDRW 4416SX

Extras : C-Lab Export

Selected Software: C-Lab Notator SL - My main sequencer.
                  : Steinberg D50 Synthworks - Favourite editor
                  : Steinberg Cubase - as a backup to Notator
                  : C-Lab Explorer 1000 - Matrix 1000 editor
                  : Dump-it - syx utility

Synths/Modules(Midi) : D50,D550,TX81Z,MKS70,JUNO 60,Matrix 1000,Microwave,
                      : XE8, EX800, EVS1, TR505
Samplers     : Emax2,S700
Effects(Midi): Quadraverb,Midiverb
Interfaces   : Pro4, 2x Midi2CV
Analog       : CS30,2x CS15,CS10,2x CS5, SH101, SH1000

I have used the Atari since 1990. Until the last 8 months that is
*all* I used it for. Now I'm online with it and don't know what I'd do
without it now.
Incidently am also a member of the Onelist group "Lugnuts" which is
for the Linear Arithmetic range of synths.

Looking forward to reading other member's postings.

Best Wishes
Sean


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>Philippe said:

>>
>>Now I use regularly (ie. almost everyday) my trusty Atari with Cubase
>V3 and a bunch of utilities, most of which have been developed
>specifically for my setup using GFA basic : a sound librarian to
>directly send patches in Sysex to JD800, DX7 and D110 while running
>Cubase (as accessory, it allows to select sounds by category, and
>send them instantly by clicking on them) and a "total recall" that
>restores all patches in my synths when a load a sequence.


This sounds interesting. Sounds almost like the STUDIO module for Cubase.Do
you need GFA basic to run the programs or are they stand-alone? Also is this
different then SATTELITE which was the Cubase Sysex ACC?



>I think the Atari is still a great tool for musicians who want to
>concentrate on playing and composing music. It boots in seconds and
>is so straightforward to use (no/very few mouse clicking, just
>hitting the keyboard) that it does not require to watch constanly
>small icons on the computer screen.


I agree. It takes forever sometimes for our Win95 machine to boot.

>The rest of my setup is composed of Yamaha DX7IIFD,

You wouldn't be part of the DX-mailing list would Ya!*L*
I love my DX7 (mark 1) and have a big library in XOR for it. Probalbly the
greatest Patch collection on Planet earth if you get a DX because of all the
PD patches for it.


FB01, Roland
>JD800, D110, U220, Akai S2800 sampler and a VS1680 recorder (that
>syncs fine for the Atari in MTC) that I use to compose mostly dance
>music ( http://www.mp3.com/PhilippeElie )


Is that the Roland Digital Recorder thing? It synces to Cubase? might be
worth looking into now!
>
>I'm willing to share ideas or programs with other members of this
>list. However, as I do not have much time, I prefer to send the GFA
>sources as is and allow people to modify and improve them as
>appropriate.

Sounds good. How big are the files? And do you need GFA basic?
>
>Again, thanks to the owner of this list for a great idea.

Actually, I have been thinking about this for a long time, just have not got
Around to it. Then I found out how ONE-List makes it real easy.So here we
are.
>
Tim
>
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I'm happy to discover this new list. I've been using Atari for MIDI
since 80's (my first Atari was a Mega ST1, which was stolen and got
replaced by a Mega STE 4), after having messing with MIDI on a
cassette-based Amstrad and a Sharp PC1500 computer (I've developed a
MIDI interface and sw programs for both of these.... I think I was
silly !).
Now I use regularly (ie. almost everyday) my trusty Atari with Cubase
V3 and a bunch of utilities, most of which have been developed
specifically for my setup using GFA basic : a sound librarian to
directly send patches in Sysex to JD800, DX7 and D110 while running
Cubase (as accessory, it allows to select sounds by category, and
send them instantly by clicking on them) and a "total recall" that
restores all patches in my synths when a load a sequence.
I think the Atari is still a great tool for musicians who want to
concentrate on playing and composing music. It boots in seconds and
is so straightforward to use (no/very few mouse clicking, just
hitting the keyboard) that it does not require to watch constanly
small icons on the computer screen.
The rest of my setup is composed of Yamaha DX7IIFD, FB01, Roland
JD800, D110, U220, Akai S2800 sampler and a VS1680 recorder (that
syncs fine for the Atari in MTC) that I use to compose mostly dance
music ( http://www.mp3.com/PhilippeElie )

I'm willing to share ideas or programs with other members of this
list. However, as I do not have much time, I prefer to send the GFA
sources as is and allow people to modify and improve them as
appropriate.

Again, thanks to the owner of this list for a great idea.

Philippe

Hello All:


Looks like this list is getting bigger. 12 people now, in just two
days.I think we can start some discussions.

I would like to start by asking what each of you use for Midi stuff:
favorite apps, ect and what your setups are as far as midi equipment.

Myself: I have a TT030 with 780M HD and Laser printer with the 19"
1280x960 res Mono monitor (atari) Got that all with Cubase installed
for $200.00!Also have a 1 meg  520ST I use to run my "algo-comp"
stuff and record right into Cubase or KCS on the TT.I run Notator on
it as well. Still learning that one .My friend just recently went to
Macs and Gave me all his Atari stuff including Notator with the
dongle and Docs.! Hallvard has a Notator list which I am a part which
deals with Notator specific stuff (thanks Hallvard)I use a 360M HD
with the 520St. Most of the time I just run from disc.(untill I get
my 4 M 1040STe fixed!...needs a pwr supply)

For Software, I have Hundreds of stuff. That is what I like about
Atari is the Uniqueness of the midi apps. You won't find stuff like
this on any other platform.My Favs are Cubase, Tunesmith,Music
Mouse,Omega II, Notator and XOR, just to name a few.

For Equipment I use a lot of FM stuff: Dx7, Tx7,Fb01, TQ5,
PSR510,also a Kawai k1m,Ensoniq Mirage, TX81P Piano Module, a roland
Mt-32 and some analog gear. (check out my Page under STUDIO)This
stuff is fairly cheap now, so it's worth it to get some FM modules.
Just got a TX7 for 75.00!I have editing software for all of it: XOR,
DX-heaven, Xanalizer, Beamteam and the YS-Editors.

I have working with Atari since 1996. When I first got it, I didn't
know a thing and made some wild blunders, like putting the program
12.prg (stienberg)into the auto folder, then I could not boot the HD.
Bruce from B&C helped me. Now I have Mouse-boot so I don't have to
worry about Auto apps! Also playing with a sector editor thinking it
was a game and came up with C DRIVE DOES NOT EXIST. Ending up
reformatting the Drive! (fortunatly I made backups!)

Well...blabed enough. hope to hear about some of your setups.

Tim
http://atari.atlantis-bbs.com

HELLO ALL:

>>
>First: Thank you very much to Tim Conrardy for setting up his Atari
>MIDI web-site and this group.

Thanks...Looks like there is a real need. FINALLY we can talk stright Atari
Midi Stuff. And thanks for kicking it off with a great subject.
>
>Tim has done a great job finding obscure Atari MIDI-programs, and
>even getting the rights to publish free versions of some of them.
>Here are some other suggestions for programs that should be available:
>
>Dr. T's Fingers or MIDI-axe
>Tempo Master
>KCS text
>T Basic
>Hitman
>
>All of these work as MPE modules in Dr. T's KCS sequencers.

I have been in communication with Emile, and he has Midi-Axe for Sale. I was
trying to find FINGERS for the longest time.Someone sent me a "cracked" copy
after I posted on Alt.Comp.Atari-St. Did not work. It would go thru a minute
of cycles, then STOPPED. B&C Computer visions ran out of them...or Bruce
misplaced the copy he had set aside for me. He might find it sometime! But
Midi Axe comes with Fingers. I don't think I can convince the Doctor to
release it as Freeware,, as he is trying to sell it ( around $100.00...too
much in my opinion for an Atari program)He is also selling his Omega II
package.



   I have
>the first three, which are great programs.  MIDI-axe is the latest
>version of Fingers, and is an algorithmic program that could be used
>for realtime performances, just like M.  It is very powerful and fun
>to play with.


I am glad you have first hand experience with this program. I wonder if it's
worth it to shell out 100 Bucks!I guess that is not too bad comparable to
what other PC/MAC programs are going for.


Tempo Master is very useful for fitting a recording to
>beats and bars so that it could be transcribed or edited.  So you
>could play freely, without metronome, and still get it right on
>paper.  It also does other things.  KCS text let you edit the
>internal notepad and save out or import text from it.  The last two
>programs I don't know, but T Basic is a version of Basic that works
>as an MPE module and interacts with the sequences.  Hitman was
>marketed as a tool for producing film music.



I have heard of some of these programs. There was a marketing blurb on one
of the KCS files. This might be something I can ask the Doctor as far as
availablity.He might release some as freeware. T-Basic I heard is a program
so you can edit and create your own KCS MPE modules, or make edits to KCS.
You need to know BASIC of course.Do any of you work at this program?
>
>Apart from these programs there are a lot of synth and sampler
>editors from Dr. T's that should be found and made available.
>Especially the ones that work from within MPE would be great.

I have DX-Heavan which is Just as it states for DX programming. However it
is key-Disced!

>
>Regarding KCS - it would also be great to get some more ideas on the
>use of PVG from other users.


I would like to hear how others use this as well. Very much UNTAPPED.



Tim has already published Chas
>Stoddards great Decitala rhythms.  Why not also publish his
>microtuning tables for PVG?


I am after Chas about this. I read in his microtuning page, that he made
some files. Did he actually "publish "them?



Also it would be great to hear tips on
>the use of the new interactive controls that came with the latest
>versions of KCS.  The very latest, unreleased version can be ordered
>directly from Emile Tobenfeld for $39 (upgrade price).

I have version 5.1. I was considering upgrading. So there is MORE stuff?



This version
>has even more of these controls, so it appears to be a kind of
>programming language from within KCS.  He also made a new MPE module
>that imports single sequences or tracks from other songs.
>
>There are also a lot of other Atari MIDI programs out there, but
>since I concentrated mainly on KCS I don't remember so many of them.
>Has anyone heard of a program called Mousterpiece?

YES... I have MousterPiece. GREAT piece of software. It's potential looks
enore-mouse (pun intended)I have a demo I was considering putting on my page
with screen shots. The original is key-disced however (DRATS)Also..It does
not work with the later models of St, like the Ste. I MADE it work by using
GENEVA with it. It had a problem drawing dialog stuff.Works fine on a 520ST!
Does not work on a TT, so probably not on a Falcon.


And there are
>some German auto-accompagnament programs á la Band-in-a-box also.

YES...Someone sent me FREESTYLE, which is pretty cool. Also some FRENCH
programs I beleive in this vien.
>
>
>
>>
>
>Hope to hear from the rest of you. Last night I looked and it was 8 people
>so far. Have not checked this morning. Not too bad for 1 day!>


Atari was made for MIDI


Tim


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First: Thank you very much to Tim Conrardi for setting up his Atari
MIDI web-site and this group.

Tim has done a great job finding obscure Atari MIDI-programs, and
even getting the rights to publish free versions of some of them.
Here are some other suggestions for programs that should be available:

Dr. T's Fingers or MIDI-axe
Tempo Master
KCS text
T Basic
Hitman

All of these work as MPE modules in Dr. T's KCS sequencers.  I have
the first three, which are great programs.  MIDI-axe is the latest
version of Fingers, and is an algorithmic program that could be used
for realtime performances, just like M.  It is very powerful and fun
to play with.  Tempo Master is very useful for fitting a recording to
beats and bars so that it could be transcribed or edited.  So you
could play freely, without metronome, and still get it right on
paper.  It also does other things.  KCS text let you edit the
internal notepad and save out or import text from it.  The last two
programs I don't know, but T Basic is a version of Basic that works
as an MPE module and interacts with the sequences.  Hitman was
marketed as a tool for producing film music.

Apart from these programs there are a lot of synth and sampler
editors from Dr. T's that should be found and made available.
Especially the ones that work from within MPE would be great.

Regarding KCS - it would also be great to get some more ideas on the
use of PVG from other users.  Tim has already published Chas
Stoddards great Decitala rhythms.  Why not also publish his
microtuning tables for PVG?  Also it would be great to hear tips on
the use of the new interactive controls that came with the latest
versions of KCS.  The very latest, unreleased version can be ordered
directly from Emile Tobenfeld for $39 (upgrade price).  This version
has even more of these controls, so it appears to be a kind of
programming language from within KCS.  He also made a new MPE module
that imports single sequences or tracks from other songs.

There are also a lot of other Atari MIDI programs out there, but
since I concentrated mainly on KCS I don't remember so many of them.
Has anyone heard of a program called Mousterpiece?  And there are
some German auto-accompagnament programs á la Band-in-a-box also.



Best wishes


Trond Einar Garmo

Hey, We got TWO members so far!

I course I only posted this morning. It will take some time to get a
"following". Guess we can wait a bit, and see what happens, then
start posting some "relevant" stuff.

Thanks for joining this early in the game.

Tim