me too


From: Kevin Petteys <kevinpetteys@...>
Reply-To: atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com
To: atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [atlanta-dpsg] Are we still active here?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:34:39 -0700 (PDT)

I still get the emails



--- Doug Lewis <kingram@...> wrote:
  > ??
  >
  >





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If there are a few of you out there lurking that would like to get this group
going again and go through the patterns like has been done 2 or 3 times before
here in Atlanta, speak up. Someone will have to take charge to guage interest,
select a meeting location and time, and make it happen. This is a
self-organizing group.

Someone who has done it before will show you how to get started. In the links
section you'll see the guide we've used...
      A Learning Guide To Design Patterns
      Very informative link on how to go about studying design patterns with a
study group
      http://www.industriallogic.com/papers/learning.html
<http://www.industriallogic.com/papers/learning.html>

Regards,

Andrew Fuqua, former atlanta-dpsg member


	 -----Original Message-----
	 From: Joe Bonds [mailto:joe@...]
	 Sent: Thu 4/22/2004 3:33 PM
	 To: atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com
	 Cc:
	 Subject: Re: [atlanta-dpsg] Are we still active here?


	 I believe the Design Patterns Study Group has completed its study.  I do not
think it is still active

----- Original Message -----

From: Doug Lewis

To: atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:04 PM

Subject: [atlanta-dpsg] Are we still active here?

??

I still get the emails



--- Doug Lewis <kingram@...> wrote:
> ??
>
>





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Hi all,
I am new to this group.  When will be the next meeting?
Thanks,
Lan Vo.

Thanks very much to everyone for your replies. My intention is to be
able to market myself as a true consultant.

The advice has been very helpful.

Thanks again.
Roger


--- In atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com, Paul Gale <paul_gale@y...>
wrote:
> Roger,
>
> There are indeed some useful books out there. I'm not sure whether
they cover all the points you
> mentioned in your criteria but you should check out anything by
Gerald Weinberg most notably
> 'Secrets of Consulting' and 'Are Your Lights on?'. There are
plenty of other titles by Gerald that
> you should also look at. Nearly every decent book store carries
them. 'Secrets of Consulting' is
> probably one of the most widely read books by consultants. It is a
light read but filled with
> useful information.
>
> You might also want to check out Pete Drucker's 'The Effective
Excutive.' Whilst not specifically
> on the subject of consulting it does contain a lot of useful
information as well. Again, it is a
> quick read.
>
> HTH
>
> Paul
>
> --- Kevin Petteys <kevinpetteys@y...> wrote:
> > Roger,
> >
> > I don't think there will be anything worth while
> > specifically for that, but what you could do is use
> > different type of books to come to a base
> > understanding. What I would look for is project
> > management books so you can adequately anticipate what
> > the work is going to entail. Sales books to be able to
> > represent yourself better and small business books to
> > help run the company.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Roger <rogercassidy2000@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > > I am looking for some good books to help me get
> > > started in technology consulting (such as the
> > > service
> > > provided by companies like E&Y, Deloitte etc)
> > >
> > > If anyone has used Janet Ruhl's books, how did it
> > > work for you?
> > >
> > > I am mostly looking for the skills needed to become
> > > a
> > > consultant, developing a portfolio, how to network,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Roger,

There are indeed some useful books out there. I'm not sure whether they cover
all the points you
mentioned in your criteria but you should check out anything by Gerald Weinberg
most notably
'Secrets of Consulting' and 'Are Your Lights on?'. There are plenty of other
titles by Gerald that
you should also look at. Nearly every decent book store carries them. 'Secrets
of Consulting' is
probably one of the most widely read books by consultants. It is a light read
but filled with
useful information.

You might also want to check out Pete Drucker's 'The Effective Excutive.' Whilst
not specifically
on the subject of consulting it does contain a lot of useful information as
well. Again, it is a
quick read.

HTH

Paul

--- Kevin Petteys <kevinpetteys@...> wrote:
> Roger,
>
> I don't think there will be anything worth while
> specifically for that, but what you could do is use
> different type of books to come to a base
> understanding. What I would look for is project
> management books so you can adequately anticipate what
> the work is going to entail. Sales books to be able to
> represent yourself better and small business books to
> help run the company.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Roger <rogercassidy2000@...> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I am looking for some good books to help me get
> > started in technology consulting (such as the
> > service
> > provided by companies like E&Y, Deloitte etc)
> >
> > If anyone has used Janet Ruhl's books, how did it
> > work for you?
> >
> > I am mostly looking for the skills needed to become
> > a
> > consultant, developing a portfolio, how to network,
> > etc.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________
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> Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster
> http://search.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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>

Roger,

I don't think there will be anything worth while
specifically for that, but what you could do is use
different type of books to come to a base
understanding. What I would look for is project
management books so you can adequately anticipate what
the work is going to entail. Sales books to be able to
represent yourself better and small business books to
help run the company.





--- Roger <rogercassidy2000@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am looking for some good books to help me get
> started in technology consulting (such as the
> service
> provided by companies like E&Y, Deloitte etc)
>
> If anyone has used Janet Ruhl's books, how did it
> work for you?
>
> I am mostly looking for the skills needed to become
> a
> consultant, developing a portfolio, how to network,
> etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Roger
>
>


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Hi All,
I am looking for some good books to help me get
started in technology consulting (such as the service
provided by companies like E&Y, Deloitte etc)

If anyone has used Janet Ruhl's books, how did it work for you?

I am mostly looking for the skills needed to become a
consultant, developing a portfolio, how to network,
etc.

Thanks

Roger

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Interpreter Pattern

Date: Monday, March 1, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Interpreter Pattern

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Flyweight Pattern

Date: Monday, February 16, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Flyweight Pattern

We meet every other Monday at Internet Security Systems in conference
room A1-061. Directions to ISS are on the group's main page. Free
parking is available behind the building.

--- In atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Petteys <kevinpetteys@y...>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Where is the meeting being held at?
>
>
>
>
> --- atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
> >
> > Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern
> >
> > Date: Monday, February 2, 2004
> > Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)
> >
> > Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Where is the meeting being held at?




--- atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.
>
> Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern
>
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2004
> Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)
>
> Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern
>
>
>
>
>


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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern

Date: Monday, February 2, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Visitor Pattern

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: State Pattern

Date: Monday, January 19, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: State Pattern

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: State Pattern

Date: Monday, January 19, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: State Pattern

Hi folks. Congratulations to you all for sticking with it.

If y'all want to go further, start discussing what to do next right now.
Here are some prior posts from which you can get some topic ideas.
(You'll want to follow some of those threads.)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/400
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/307
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/322
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/290
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/248
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/254
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlanta-dpsg/message/258

Regards,
Andrew M Fuqua

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Vincent [mailto:rvincent@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 10:29 AM
To: atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [atlanta-dpsg] Happy New Year


Hope you all had a great holiday.  Now that it's 2004, make a resolution
to attend more study group sessions!  We only have 5 more patterns to go
in the GOF book.  Our next meeting will be on Monday the 19th at ISS
where we'll cover the State pattern.  See you there!

Bob





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Hope you all had a great holiday.  Now that it's 2004, make a
resolution to attend more study group sessions!  We only have 5 more
patterns to go in the GOF book.  Our next meeting will be on Monday
the 19th at ISS where we'll cover the State pattern.  See you there!

Bob

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Prototype Pattern

Date: Monday, January 5, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Prototype Pattern

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Prototype Pattern

Date: Monday, January 5, 2004
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Prototype Pattern

I just found another GOF DP game. Here's the instructions and the board:
http://www.cix.co.uk/~cweir/GofPursuit/GOFPURS.HTM
http://www.cix.co.uk/~cweir/GofPursuit/PURSUIT.GIF

Looks like it might be fun to play some time.

Regards.
Andrew m Fuqua

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We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern

Date: Monday, December 15, 2003
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern

Welcome Sudi-

The meetings are held at the offices of Internet Security Systems.
6303  Barfield Rd, Atl 30328.  I've included a mapquest link - looking
forward to seeing you!

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?city=atlanta&state=GA&address=6303+Barfield\
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--- In atlanta-dpsg@yahoogroups.com, "sudhi.rm" <sudhi@r...> wrote:
> I am a newbie to this group. Can someone tell me where we will be
> meeting for the "Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern"?
> Thanks
> Sudi

I am a newbie to this group. Can someone tell me where we will be
meeting for the "Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern"?
Thanks
Sudi

We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern

Date: Monday, December 15, 2003
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Command Pattern

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Design Patterns Discussion: Memento Pattern

Date: Monday, December 1, 2003
Time: 7:00PM - 8:30PM EST (GMT-05:00)

Design Patterns Discussion: Memento Pattern

Hello  Friends!

I am facing a bit of a confusion regarding  use cases. Thogh I
understand clearly  <<EXTEND>> AND  <INCLUDE>> are both stereo type
and also clearly understand their definations. I also know the UML
diagrams for both these mechanisms. Actually i want to express them
in the description of my base uses for these usecases i.e the usecase
which we are including and extending.

My problem is that:

how can we express both EXTEND and INCLUDE mechanism in our base
usecase description and where ?

* how our base use case is including other use cases in description?
* do we need to define the inculde mechanism in Main Success Scenario?
* do we need to define the extend mechanism in Extension clause or
Alternate Flow?

Will appreciate examples to the above mentioned questions.

Thank you

Folks,

I apologize, but something has come up and I won't be able to attend
the meeting tonight. If someone can please take over moderating, I
would be very grateful.

Thanks.