If the electrolysis process is done using wind energy, it wouldn't be a waste of electricity, it would be free hydrogen/oxygen. Or am I missing something? ... ...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 1, 2011 11:13 am
Maybe the 60% energy loss compared to using batteries and an inverter. Electrolysis is throwing away hard earned low energy density power. ... -- Steve Spence ...
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Dan Fink
danbob88
Mar 1, 2011 2:32 pm
Not sure if you didn't see my latest post here Mike........ My book was scanned by Google Book Search, and is free online from them. Chapter 20 is what you...
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drsimm@...
drsimm1776
Mar 1, 2011 11:54 pm
Ok, So I understand that the type of mill you build turns out of the wind at high speeds. .. .... exactly how I don't understand. Maybe I can take a class and...
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Michael
mmk_tsm
Mar 2, 2011 12:24 am
Dan, yes, I saw your post. I have a poor internet connection, and so far have not managed to access any useful data via google books. What is the problem...
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Tom Visel
five10man
Mar 2, 2011 12:33 am
Since resistance is generally proportional to temperature, one _might_ be able to make a resistive load self adjusting to an extent, _if_ one were to expose it...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 2, 2011 12:36 am
The turbine turns itself out of the wind in an overspeed condition. You can't turn it out of the wind when the batteries are full, hence the need for a dump...
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Wales Druid
walesdruid
Mar 2, 2011 11:15 am
I am confused by the posting about hydrogen. Even more so about statements about hydrogen use is proposed by people who slept in science class. Hydrogen is...
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Jedon Thompson
jedon13
Mar 2, 2011 11:17 am
Why couldn't the dump load sensor be hooked to a relay that would furl the unit? Hydro systems use that kind of setup where solenoids can adjust water flow ...
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Dan Fink
danbob88
Mar 2, 2011 2:07 pm
Mike; I understand RE the bad internet connection. There's too much text in that chapter to post on this list; After I get back from town today I'll try to...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 2, 2011 11:01 pm
Commercially, Hydrogen is produced from natural gas. This is for economic reasons. Electrolysis (the method all the scammers suggest) throws away a lot of...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 2, 2011 11:01 pm
Please explain your remote furling method. On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:36:39 -0500, Jedon Thompson <jedon13@...> ... -- Steve Spence Renewable energy and self...
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Michael
mmk_tsm
Mar 2, 2011 11:25 pm
Steve, you are off on a tangent, way off. Who mentioned batteries??? Not me. Overspeed control, I am interested in it also, but that is a topic for another...
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James Payne
jfp76801
Mar 2, 2011 11:26 pm
Think of your car alternator. The engine speed changes and the controls keep your lights at a steady rate un;like the old model A's or model T' which dimmed...
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James Payne
jfp76801
Mar 2, 2011 11:26 pm
Also Don to turn it out of the wind would be a load control itself and still require electronics to activateso to do so by moving out of the wind would require...
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Stuart Perkins
stuman40
Mar 2, 2011 11:27 pm
The production of hydrogen through electrolysis is a net loss equation. All energy storage is a net loss equation due to conversion TO storage form and FROM...
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Stuart Perkins
stuman40
Mar 2, 2011 11:27 pm
Any means of keeping the turbine speed below failure will accomplish the same thing. Mechanical simplicity makes for higher MTBF (mean time before failure, or...
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drsimm@...
drsimm1776
Mar 2, 2011 11:27 pm
Dan - GOT YOUR BOOK FROM THE LIBRARY . GOOD ONE! I now understand furling - etc. Shutoff switch - has anyone used large scale relays / FET's for this switch to...
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Nick Andrews
nicothefabulous
Mar 2, 2011 11:28 pm
All of those methods are more expensive than gasoline or diesel are now. ... -- Nick A "You know what I wish? I wish that all the scum of the world had but a ...
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Michael
mike_burgess
Mar 2, 2011 11:28 pm
... <snip> ... Best price that special storage tank ! and the compressor pump, and the transfer pump (for the car tank) The part that it takes 100 Watts of...
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Charlie
charlieknox
Mar 2, 2011 11:28 pm
What is the problem with a simple cut and paste into a reply here??? ... I can't address that issue, but if you've got access problems, I can assure you that...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 2, 2011 11:33 pm
I'm not the one off on a tangent. The turbine's speed is controlled by the tail for the most part, but a load is required to keep the unit from self...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 2, 2011 11:44 pm
Electronics are not needed to turn the blades. It's a function of wind speed and gravity. electronics are usually needed to prevent the batteries from...
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Steve Spence
sspence65
Mar 3, 2011 12:07 am
The dump load is not to protect the turbine, it's to protect the batteries. On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 08:41:42 -0500, Stuart Perkins ... -- Steve Spence Renewable...
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Daniel Lenox
dan_lenox
Mar 3, 2011 1:15 am
A remote shutdown is actually pretty simple to implement. Here is one example that is somewhat brute force by shorting the stator using a contactor: (1)...
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Stuart Perkins
stuman40
Mar 3, 2011 1:16 am
Of course. We seem to be confusing the two a bit. Putting significant drag on the turbine will also contribute to preventing overspeed, but a dump load is...
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hsirotak@...
wizcrone50
Mar 3, 2011 1:19 am
I'm in agreement with you Nick. Half the problem is what they DO teach in science class anyway! ... From: "Nick Andrews" <nickjandrews@...> To:...
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Wales Druid
walesdruid
Mar 3, 2011 1:30 am
Hello, "Commercially, Hydrogen is produced from natural gas. This is for economic reasons. Electrolysis (the method all the scammers suggest) throws away a...
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Stuart Perkins
stuman40
Mar 3, 2011 11:12 am
While that may be the end result, the immediate goal is to not choke out the life in your bank account, while enjoying the modern convenience of electric...
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James Payne
jfp76801
Mar 3, 2011 11:14 am
About CO2...Plants use it and convert it into oxygen in the presence of light but then in the dark it consumes the oxygen and the process starts over again in...
