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#13481 From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 1:26 pm
Subject: 'Galle's Choice'
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Does anyone on this forum grow 'Galle's Choice'?

There is a very good chance this is a cross of caledulaceum X colemanii.

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#13482 From: Madi Stroomer <madisonstroomer@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:22 am
Subject: [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
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Unknown Name :(
 
Hi!
This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters tall.
I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label it for good?
 
 
 
 
Kind Regards,
Madison
from Geelong, VIC, Australia


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#13483 From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC] [1 Attachment]
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Hi Madi,

It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'.  Compare your image with the attached image.

William C. Miller III
Bethesda, Maryland
www.theazaleaworks.com


Madi Stroomer wrote:
 

Unknown Name :(
 
Hi!
This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters tall.
I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label it for good?
 
 
 
 
Kind Regards,
Madison
from Geelong, VIC, Australia


Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or share?

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#13484 From: Burt Mixter <bmixter@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Care
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I live in a northwest suburb of Chicago. We have three azaleas in our front garden one of which seems to have withered leaves.
What is the recommended treatment to stop the withering and prevent its reoccurrence?
Burt

#13485 From: Barry Sperling <barrysperling@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 11:38 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC] [1 Attachment]
bsperlinus
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FWIW, I've had an unidentified azalea that looks like that for many
years and, traveling around, I was always on the lookout for a similar
one.  Whereas most of the time you go for a long time (forever??)
without finding a match, the reverse happened and I found matches TOO
easily.  This flower seems to be of a pattern that has been released
(escaped?) into the trade many times under a variety of names.  GLT,
Bill's plant, is one.  Kunimitsu (in the Nanney's garden) is another.
Larry Martin's 'By Metal Fence' is a third and I've seen others.  Maybe
leaf type and bloom time can be differentiators, but without that info
things are even more of a guess than normally.
     Barry

William C. Miller III wrote:
>
> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from William C. Miller III included below]
>
> Hi Madi,
>
> It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'.  Compare your image
> with the attached image.
>
> William C. Miller III
> Bethesda, Maryland
> www.theazaleaworks.com
>
>
> Madi Stroomer wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Unknown Name :(
>>
>> Hi!
>> This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
>> We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters
>> tall.
>> I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label
>> it for good?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Madison
>> from Geelong, VIC, Australia
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or
>> share? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/>
>

#13486 From: Barry Sperling <barrysperling@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 12:40 am
Subject: Winter Weather Forecasts
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Hi All!
     Winter weather can be a pain, personally, but in terms of my azaleas
I can't think of any real loss of plants due to cold (some rare
frost-heave or bark split, but otherwise no big deal).  For me, losses
occur in mid-summer with long droughts and temps in the upper 90s.
That's when small plants kick the bucket.
     That said, if winter puts a stress on your plants and you need to
protect them you might want to note that the east looks colder and
snowier than normal from mid-January to the end of February in some
long-range forecasts I've read.  Yes, I waste too much time with stuff
like PDO, QBO, NAO and the pattern we all know: El Nino.  I just think
it's fun, but don't confuse long-range forecasts with science.  It's all
just good guesses, primarily built around pattern matching (for example,
the year ____ looked just like this year, so the weather will be the
same going forward.)
     That all being said, most of the forecasts are in surprising
agreement.  For my area of the country (the Middle-Atlantic states)
December looks to be average to warmer-than-average, January and
February look colder than average and March may be warmer than average.
Snow totals will be somewhat above average.  If that's the case I am
expecting bloom time to be about on-time or slightly early and the bloom
amount should be good (April 30th is about my peak, 10 mi south of DC).
     As I said, don't confuse these forecasts with science, but if you'd
like to read about them in excruciating detail, check out the 2 links below:

http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?showtopic=211108

http://www.examiner.com/x-3775-Houston-Weather-Examiner~y2009m10d30-WEATHERAmeri\
ca--NORTH-AMERICA-WINTER-SEASON-OUTLOOK-120109--033110

     Barry

#13487 From: Bob Stelloh <bstelloh@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
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Hmm.

'Kinimitsu' is documented as hose-in-hose with irregular doubling,
strong purplish red with white center.

Pictures from Joe Coleman's garden seem to match that, at
<http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/57541270>  and "previous",
but Madi Stroomer's picture doesn't seem to.

Regards,
Bob Stelloh  Hendersonville NC  USDA Zone 7

On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Barry Sperling wrote:

> FWIW, I've had an unidentified azalea that looks like that for many
> years and, traveling around, I was always on the lookout for a similar
> one.  Whereas most of the time you go for a long time (forever??)
> without finding a match, the reverse happened and I found matches TOO
> easily.  This flower seems to be of a pattern that has been released
> (escaped?) into the trade many times under a variety of names.  GLT,
> Bill's plant, is one.  Kunimitsu (in the Nanney's garden) is another.
> Larry Martin's 'By Metal Fence' is a third and I've seen others.
> Maybe
> leaf type and bloom time can be differentiators, but without that info
> things are even more of a guess than normally.
>     Barry
>
> William C. Miller III wrote:
>>
>> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from William C. Miller III included below]
>>
>> Hi Madi,
>>
>> It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'.  Compare your image
>> with the attached image.
>>
>> William C. Miller III
>> Bethesda, Maryland
>> www.theazaleaworks.com
>>
>>
>> Madi Stroomer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unknown Name :(
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
>>> We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters
>>> tall.
>>> I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label
>>> it for good?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Madison
>>> from Geelong, VIC, Australia
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or
>>> share? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/>
>>
>
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#13488 From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:37 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
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Bob,

'Kunimitsu' is one of the Kurume hybrids on Dr. Yamaguchi's page of Kurume images.  It's not a wonderful image but it doesn't look like 'George Lindley Taber' or the submitted image --- and there is a significant size differential between most Kurume hybrids and most Southern Indian hybrids. 

Dr. Yamaguchi's link is:     http://web.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/~dr.yamaguchi/virtualazalea.htm

Bill


Bob Stelloh wrote:
 

Hmm.

'Kinimitsu' is documented as hose-in-hose with irregular doubling,
strong purplish red with white center.

Pictures from Joe Coleman's garden seem to match that, at
<http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/57541270> and "previous",
but Madi Stroomer's picture doesn't seem to.

Regards,
Bob Stelloh Hendersonville NC USDA Zone 7

On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Barry Sperling wrote:

> FWIW, I've had an unidentified azalea that looks like that for many
> years and, traveling around, I was always on the lookout for a similar
> one. Whereas most of the time you go for a long time (forever??)
> without finding a match, the reverse happened and I found matches TOO
> easily. This flower seems to be of a pattern that has been released
> (escaped?) into the trade many times under a variety of names. GLT,
> Bill's plant, is one. Kunimitsu (in the Nanney's garden) is another.
> Larry Martin's 'By Metal Fence' is a third and I've seen others.
> Maybe
> leaf type and bloom time can be differentiators, but without that info
> things are even more of a guess than normally.
> Barry
>
> William C. Miller III wrote:
>>
>> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from William C. Miller III included below]
>>
>> Hi Madi,
>>
>> It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'. Compare your image
>> with the attached image.
>>
>> William C. Miller III
>> Bethesda, Maryland
>> www.theazaleaworks.com
>>
>>
>> Madi Stroomer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unknown Name :(
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
>>> We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters
>>> tall.
>>> I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label
>>> it for good?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Madison
>>> from Geelong, VIC, Australia
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----
>>> Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or
>>> share? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/>
>>
>
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#13489 From: Barry Sperling <barrysperling@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:38 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
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Hi Bob,
     Unfortunately, relying on my memory failed as the plant I was
thinking of (on actually checking my notes) was labeled 'Matsukasa'.
Looking at the description in Galle on p. 289 the actual flower
appearance is ambiguous.  Maybe the plant was mislabeled?  In any event
I have seen others with that appearance but not labeled GLT.  About a
decade ago I was noting such plants trying to get names for all of the
ones in my garden (that my wife had planted years before).  There are
still several that are unknown.  I once posted some pictures to the
group but didn't get any answers.
     Barry


Bob Stelloh wrote:
>
>
> Hmm.
>
> 'Kinimitsu' is documented as hose-in-hose with irregular doubling,
> strong purplish red with white center.
>
> Pictures from Joe Coleman's garden seem to match that, at
> <http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/57541270
> <http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/57541270>> and "previous",
> but Madi Stroomer's picture doesn't seem to.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Stelloh Hendersonville NC USDA Zone 7
>
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Barry Sperling wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I've had an unidentified azalea that looks like that for many
> > years and, traveling around, I was always on the lookout for a similar
> > one. Whereas most of the time you go for a long time (forever??)
> > without finding a match, the reverse happened and I found matches TOO
> > easily. This flower seems to be of a pattern that has been released
> > (escaped?) into the trade many times under a variety of names. GLT,
> > Bill's plant, is one. Kunimitsu (in the Nanney's garden) is another.
> > Larry Martin's 'By Metal Fence' is a third and I've seen others.
> > Maybe
> > leaf type and bloom time can be differentiators, but without that info
> > things are even more of a guess than normally.
> > Barry
> >
> > William C. Miller III wrote:
> >>
> >> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from William C. Miller III included below]
> >>
> >> Hi Madi,
> >>
> >> It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'. Compare your image
> >> with the attached image.
> >>
> >> William C. Miller III
> >> Bethesda, Maryland
> >> www.theazaleaworks.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Madi Stroomer wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Unknown Name :(
> >>>
> >>> Hi!
> >>> This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we counted!)
> >>> We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5 meters
> >>> tall.
> >>> I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can label
> >>> it for good?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Madison
> >>> from Geelong, VIC, Australia
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>> ----
> >>> Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or
> >>> share? <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
> <http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> > as context, and DELETE the rest - especially this line and the
> > Yahoo lines. And PLEASE tell us your city, state and/or USDA zone.
> >
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#13490 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 5:14 am
Subject: Charles Eastman Died Saturday morning in Columbia, SC
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My friend Charles H. Eastman died Saturday morning in his home at 4805 Barber
Street in Columbia near Columbia College and not far from the Crane Creek bluffs
in Richland County, SC,  where he first saw a new wild azalea during his
boyhood, which was named for him in 1999 as an entirely new species.  He retired
as an engineer for the SC Department of Transportation June1, 180 with 30 years
of service.  In his work afield building roads he found more of the white
azaleas like the ones at Crane Creek, at Santee State Park and in Newberry
county near a Swertia stand.

I last visited Charles on his 84th birthday this September 9th. I helped him to
venture out into the yard on his scooter over a new wooden ramp and bridge where
we talked about past field adventures and the native plants in his woods.  Over
the past year or so he had been growing weaker and toward the end was
experiencing much pain.  Over the past 10 years Charles had lost his beloved
wife Pat, his twin sister Jean and Edith and his older brother John Wade, who
was also a twin. His brother Lee Eastman died as a paratrooper in WWII.  Also in
recent years Charles had lost both feet due to circulation problems caused by
vein removal for bypass surgery many years ago.

I first met Charles Eastman in mid-April 1981 when he walked into my office at
the natural resources department with a handful of native azalea trusses in
almost every color of the rainbow that he had collected from a population of
Oconee Azalea (Rhododendron flammeum) on a bluff of the North Edisto in Aiken
County, SC then owned by his friend Dr. Oscar LaBorde of Columbia.  

While I was a native plant enthusiast at the time, it was Charles who sparked my
interest in native azaleas and rhododendrons, which he grew in his large wooded
yard.  At that time we began taking one and more field trips annually in Spring
to observe native azaleas and birds, with an added goal to find a good rural
eatery that we had never frequented before.  We always had an enjoyable time. 
Because of the timing of our trips we were seeking primarily flammeum, except
when we visited the mid-May white fragrant azaleas at Crane Creek and Santee
State Park which the botanists then thought were just the Alabama Azalea. 
Charles also grew several of the white azaleas in his woods, at least one was
collected in a paper Dixie Cup during the construction of Interstate 20 north of
Columbia, a project which cut a wide swath through a rich area for the
azaleas.  
The more we observed and talked, the more we both thought the azaleas were not
Rhododendorn alabamensis, but something new and different.  These bloom on stems
with fully expanded mature leaves and seemed to prefer areas with limestone or
marble in the soil.  I invited the azalea expert Dr. Kathleen Kron from Wake
Forest University to come down for a field trip to the white azaleas, which took
place in May 1992.  After visiting the plants in flower along the Crane
Creek bluffs and the Limestone Nature Trail on Santee State Park, she studied
them and decided they were different. Dr. Kron and I colloborated on an article
to propose the azaleas as a new species to honor Charles Eastman.  It was
published in the September 1999 issue of Novon at the Missouri Botanical Garden.

Rhododendron eastmanii has now been documented as growing natively in 12 of the
46 South Carolina counties totalling more than 40 separate populations.  Dr.
Charles Horn at Newberry College in Newberry, SC has done all of the recent
field botany on the species.  I have accompanied him on search trips each May
for the past several years.

I will be a pallbearer at his graveside service this week at Greenlawn Cemetery
in Columbia.  He will never be forgotten.  I have a good photo of him with
two botanists in 1992 at the Crane Creek bluffs.  I will post it.
 
Mike Creel
Lexington, South Carolina

#13491 From: Larry Wallace <UUallace@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
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Its nice to kow we will be having a mild winter again.  Our autumns have ended miserably.  It has been below 0 degrees.  When my boy turned two everybody missed the party.  We had a blizzard December 20, 2002.  His birthday was December 22, (which this year is still mostly fall).
 
One of the links metioned the weather between Christmas and "MLK Day" (December 19).
MLK III day is October 23.



--
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati

#13492 From: barry <barrysperling@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
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Hi Larry,
     I took "MLK Day" to be the holiday for his birthday, which is usually about the end of the 3rd week in January.  Thus the forecast for a regime change is in that 4 week span.  If the forecasts play out I think that things will go very well for the spring bloom:  a slow, mild fall will facilitate hardening off, the cold in the dead of winter should be irrelevant, a good snow pack will provide deep moisture for the plants in the spring and a warm March will kick-start things well.  In fact, that sequence is almost too much to hope for so...
    Barry



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Wallace
Sent: Nov 2, 2009 7:18 AM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts

 

Its nice to kow we will be having a mild winter again.  Our autumns have ended miserably.  It has been below 0 degrees.  When my boy turned two everybody missed the party.  We had a blizzard December 20, 2002.  His birthday was December 22, (which this year is still mostly fall).
 
One of the links metioned the weather between Christmas and "MLK Day" (December 19).
MLK III day is October 23.



--
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati


#13493 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Charles Eastman at Crane Creek Bluffs, May 1992
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Charles H. Eastman, for whom Rhododendron eastmanii is named, died in his sleep early Saturday morning, October 31, 2009 at home near his large garden on Barber Street in northeast Columbia, South Carolina. 
Attached is a photo I took of Charles (with white hair in the right side of the image) taken in May 1992 during a visit to the bluffs of Crane Creek in Richland County, SC to see some fragrant white azaleas in flower.  Also in the photo are Dr. Bert Pittman, chief and only botanist for the SC Department of Natural Resources and Dr. Kathleen A. Kron, co-author of Rhododendron eastmanii, then a professor at Wake Forest University.
Charles and I last explored his garden on his 84th birthday September 9, 2009.  He still remembered where everything was growing.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington County, South Carolina

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#13494 From: Larry Wallace <UUallace@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
uuallace
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Junior was born Jaanuary 23.  MLK was born December 19,1899.  Typically the senior dies before senion, the junior usually Junior. drops the Jr.  This is not the case.
 

--
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati

#13495 From: michael.campbell3@...
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
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mild winter??????  This is probably going to be one the coldest winters on record for the Chicago area.  I can't imagine the Ohio weather being too far off that trend.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Wallace" <UUallace@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2009 6:18:08 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts

 

Its nice to kow we will be having a mild winter again.  Our autumns have ended miserably.  It has been below 0 degrees.  When my boy turned two everybody missed the party.  We had a blizzard December 20, 2002.  His birthday was December 22, (which this year is still mostly fall).
 
One of the links metioned the weather between Christmas and "MLK Day" (December 19).
MLK III day is October 23.



--
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati


#13496 From: Larry Wallace <UUallace@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 10:36 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
uuallace
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The north bank of the Ohio at low water is the Mason-Dixon Line.  Cincinnati is almost in the south.  I moved heare (in the South) because the winters were a little milder and it was (ha ha) the Machin Tool Capital of tne World.  When I moved here the winters have had frewquent breaks with southern air.  The last decade they haven't been any different than De Troit


--
Larry Wallace
Cincinnati
 
PS Around 1980 they moved the state borders 150 feet south.  Somehow this made riverboat gambling legal in Indiana, and tomorrow we vote on it in Ohio.  In a shallow river kepiing in the proper state was difficullt, so the boats now go nowhere.

#13497 From: "Ed Collins" <azalea.ed@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:04 pm
Subject: New address
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Hi all,
The following is a new e-mail address for Ed and Mary Collins.
Please notice the dot separating azalea and Ed.
 
 
 


#13498 From: Barry Sperling <barrysperling@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Winter Weather Forecasts
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Before the thread spirals totally out of control, let me just
reiterate that MY remarks on the winter's weather were only for the
Middle Atlantic states, where I live, not for the Midwest, New England,
Deep South, etc.  If you would like to see what the 2 gentlemen that
were linked to (Alan Huffman and Larry Cosgrove) are guessing for your
area you need to read the semi-technical discussions that they have.
While they are professionals, their pay (and work) is not linked to the
accuracy of their winter forecasts and this is primarily for bragging
rights.
     I think that if the forecasts for your area are for unusually severe
winter weather then it wouldn't hurt to line up protective measures for
your more sensitive plants: snow fencing for wind protection, other
types of plant coverings, heavy mulching (including totally covering the
plants for the duration of the severe weather), etc.  I personally carry
in my pots to an unheated attached shed when the temperatures are
forecast to go below 20°, but I'm not positive that this is necessary,
and here it's only for a few weeks each year.
     Good luck,
        Barry, 10 mi south of DC


Larry Wallace wrote:
>
> The north bank of the Ohio at low water is the Mason-Dixon Line.
> Cincinnati is almost in the south.  I moved heare (in the South)
> because the winters were a little milder and it was (ha ha) the Machin
> Tool Capital of tne World.  When I moved here the winters have had
> frewquent breaks with southern air.  The last decade they haven't been
> any different than De Troit
>
>
> --
> Larry Wallace
> Cincinnati
>
> PS Around 1980 they moved the state borders 150 feet south.  Somehow
> this made riverboat gambling legal in Indiana, and tomorrow we vote on
> it in Ohio.  In a shallow river kepiing in the proper state was
> difficullt, so the boats now go nowhere.
>
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#13499 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:30 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'
mikeacreel
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I have grown Fred Galle's Choice Cream (austrinum X atlanticum, or the reverse) for years and it definitely seems to be self fertile. Growing isolated the plant every season is filled with good seed pods.  Since there have been NO responses regarding Galle's Choice, which is described in Galle's Azalea book, I assume that no one grows it and no nursery has continued it.  I will check with Hank Bruno at Calloway Gardens to determine if the original plant still grows in the gardens there.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington County, South Carolina



From: sjperk5 <sjperk5@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 8:26:08 AM
Subject: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'

 

Does anyone on this forum grow 'Galle's Choice'?

There is a very good chance this is a cross of caledulaceum X colemanii.

John Perkins
Salem, NH


#13500 From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 12:58 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'
sjperk5
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Mike

It would be interesting to test if Fred Galle's Choice Cream is indeed self
fertile because this would be rare for a plant with such simple parentage.

Dick Jaynes of Kalmia fame did some studies in the 70's that showed selfing
individual plants of deciduous azaleas species failed to take in most instances
and in the few instances where they did very weak seedlings resulted.

The article was published in 1976 and can be found on the web.

He was attempting to discover if deciduous azaleas could be used as a bridge to
developing yellow evergreen azaleas.

My money would be it is not self fertile at least to any great degree but then
again the only way to know for certain is to test it.

I plan to self several 4ns in 2010.

Thanks for following up on my inquiry.

John Perkis
Salem, NH

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups.com, Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...> wrote:
>
> I have grown Fred Galle's Choice Cream (austrinum X atlanticum, or the
reverse) for years and it definitely seems to be self fertile. Growing isolated
the plant every season is filled with good seed pods.  Since there have been NO
responses regarding Galle's Choice, which is described in Galle's Azalea book, I
assume that no one grows it and no nursery has continued it.  I will check with
Hank Bruno at Calloway Gardens to determine if the original plant still grows in
the gardens there.
>  Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
> Lexington County, South Carolina
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sjperk5 <sjperk5@...>
> To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 8:26:08 AM
> Subject: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'
>
>  
> Does anyone on this forum grow 'Galle's Choice'?
>
> There is a very good chance this is a cross of caledulaceum X colemanii.
>
> John Perkins
> Salem, NH
>

#13501 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 2:37 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'
mikeacreel
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John, can you or any of the other knowledgeable people in this group  prescribe a foolproof procedure for testing self fertility that I could use next season on my Choice Cream?
 
You would not believe the typical seed pod set on this plant, visible right now. The seeds could fill the entire seed exchange with some left over.  The plant grows in a fairly isolated position at the outer edge of the courtyard between my house and attached garage.  It never has a bad year.  The plant forms ball trusses from single buds, and the number of pots set seems to equal the flowers that open. 
 
I grow a fair number of deciduous azaleas, more species than hybrids, but this Choice Cream plant beats everything in seed pod set year after year.  As a rule I observe much better seed pod set in my hybrids compared to pure species plants.
 
If the Galle's Choice plant is still growing at Callaway, I believe it can be found.  A few years ago they found an Ilex laevigata from which I rooted several cuttings using November cuttings overwintered outdoors.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington County, South Carolina



From: sjperk5 <sjperk5@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 7:58:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'

 

Mike

It would be interesting to test if Fred Galle's Choice Cream is indeed self fertile because this would be rare for a plant with such simple parentage.

Dick Jaynes of Kalmia fame did some studies in the 70's that showed selfing individual plants of deciduous azaleas species failed to take in most instances and in the few instances where they did very weak seedlings resulted.

The article was published in 1976 and can be found on the web.

He was attempting to discover if deciduous azaleas could be used as a bridge to developing yellow evergreen azaleas.

My money would be it is not self fertile at least to any great degree but then again the only way to know for certain is to test it.

I plan to self several 4ns in 2010.

Thanks for following up on my inquiry.

John Perkis
Salem, NH

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups .com, Mike Creel <mikeacreel@ ...> wrote:
>
> I have grown Fred Galle's Choice Cream (austrinum X atlanticum, or the reverse) for years and it definitely seems to be self fertile. Growing isolated the plant every season is filled with good seed pods.  Since there have been NO responses regarding Galle's Choice, which is described in Galle's Azalea book, I assume that no one grows it and no nursery has continued it.  I will check with Hank Bruno at Calloway Gardens to determine if the original plant still grows in the gardens there.
>  Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
> Lexington County, South Carolina
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: sjperk5 <sjperk5@... >
> To: azaleas@yahoogroups .com
> Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 8:26:08 AM
> Subject: [AZ] 'Galle's Choice'
>
>  
> Does anyone on this forum grow 'Galle's Choice'?
>
> There is a very good chance this is a cross of caledulaceum X colemanii.
>
> John Perkins
> Salem, NH
>


#13502 From: "Aaron" <acook@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 4:19 pm
Subject: Seed Exchange
avcookiii
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Greetings All,

It is official! The seed exchange is off and running. I received seed from Jim
Willhite and David Updike on Friday Oct 30th and it is preped and in the fridge.
Hope to get out this week and do some collecting myself. Looking forward to many
more packages coming in. I am hoping to get most of the donations in and
processed, so we can get the list posted shotly after Christmas. Last year we
had about 200 seed lots and basically sold out by May. I am hoping to do at
least that well or better this year.

Thanks to Everyone for you help and participation

Aaron

#13503 From: Bob Stelloh <bstelloh@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:35 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
oakhillbob
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Thanks, Bill. I agree, 'Kunimitsu' doesn't look like 'George Lindley
Taber' or the submitted image, per my earlier email.

Dr. Yamaguchi and I have emailed a lot, mostly resolving  name
differences, and to get his permission to copy all his Kurume
pictures to our picture website. See, in this instance, <http://
www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/50909529>.

Bob Stelloh  Hendersonville NC  USDA Zone 7

On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:37 PM, William C. Miller III wrote:

>
>
> Bob,
>
> 'Kunimitsu' is one of the Kurume hybrids on Dr. Yamaguchi's page of
> Kurume images.  It's not a wonderful image but it doesn't look like
> 'George Lindley Taber' or the submitted image --- and there is a
> significant size differential between most Kurume hybrids and most
> Southern Indian hybrids.
>
> Dr. Yamaguchi's link is:     http://web.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/
> ~dr.yamaguchi/virtualazalea.htm
>
> Bill
>
>
> Bob Stelloh wrote:
>>
>> Hmm.
>>
>> 'Kinimitsu' is documented as hose-in-hose with irregular doubling,
>> strong purplish red with white center.
>>
>> Pictures from Joe Coleman's garden seem to match that, at
>> <http://www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/57541270> and "previous",
>> but Madi Stroomer's picture doesn't seem to.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Stelloh Hendersonville NC USDA Zone 7
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Barry Sperling wrote:
>>
>> > FWIW, I've had an unidentified azalea that looks like that for many
>> > years and, traveling around, I was always on the lookout for a
>> similar
>> > one. Whereas most of the time you go for a long time (forever??)
>> > without finding a match, the reverse happened and I found
>> matches TOO
>> > easily. This flower seems to be of a pattern that has been released
>> > (escaped?) into the trade many times under a variety of names. GLT,
>> > Bill's plant, is one. Kunimitsu (in the Nanney's garden) is
>> another.
>> > Larry Martin's 'By Metal Fence' is a third and I've seen others.
>> > Maybe
>> > leaf type and bloom time can be differentiators, but without
>> that info
>> > things are even more of a guess than normally.
>> > Barry
>> >
>> > William C. Miller III wrote:
>> >>
>> >> [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from William C. Miller III included
>> below]
>> >>
>> >> Hi Madi,
>> >>
>> >> It looks very much like 'George Lindley Taber'. Compare your image
>> >> with the attached image.
>> >>
>> >> William C. Miller III
>> >> Bethesda, Maryland
>> >> www.theazaleaworks.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Madi Stroomer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Unknown Name :(
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi!
>> >>> This is a picture of one of my mum's hundred azaleas. (we
>> counted!)
>> >>> We have never known the name as it's sooo old! it is over 1.5
>> meters
>> >>> tall.
>> >>> I was wondering if you could identify the name of it so we can
>> label
>> >>> it for good?
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>> >>>
>> >>> Kind Regards,
>> >>> Madison
>> >>> from Geelong, VIC, Australia
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#13504 From: Bob Stelloh <bstelloh@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:45 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Charles Eastman Died Saturday morning in Columbia, SC
oakhillbob
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Thank you, Mike, for your very informative article about your friend
and mentor Charles Eastman. Seems to me you should send this to the
Azalean editor, Pam Fitch <theazalean@...> to be considered for
publication, along with the picture and maybe a few pictures of R.
eastmanii.

Bob Stelloh  Hendersonville NC  USDA Zone 7

On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Mike Creel wrote:

> My friend Charles H. Eastman died Saturday morning in his home at
> 4805 Barber Street in Columbia near Columbia College and not far
> from the Crane Creek bluffs in Richland County, SC,  where he first
> saw a new wild azalea during his boyhood, which was named for him
> in 1999 as an entirely new species.  He retired as an engineer for
> the SC Department of Transportation June1, 180 with 30 years of
> service.  In his work afield building roads he found more of the
> white azaleas like the ones at Crane Creek, at Santee State Park
> and in Newberry county near a Swertia stand.
>
> <snip>
>
>

#13505 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 5:21 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Charles Eastman Died Saturday morning in Columbia, SC
mikeacreel
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That would be fine, but please remove my remark attributing the amputation of both of his feet to veins harvested for bypass surgery.  Just say poor circulation.  Read it carefully and clean up any thing needed.  We had a good time the last hours I spent with him though he was in his motorized chair.  He was fully aware of things and remembered our field expeditions together and where various plants were in his yard or woods.  For some time it had been difficult to talk with him by phone due to hearing problems, much better in person.  Not for publication I will send you a photo of him on his 84th birthday during our final time afield.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Nature is my Greenhouse
Fall-Line Sandhils region
Lexington County, South Carolina



From: Bob Stelloh <bstelloh@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 11:45:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ] Charles Eastman Died Saturday morning in Columbia, SC

 

Thank you, Mike, for your very informative article about your friend
and mentor Charles Eastman. Seems to me you should send this to the
Azalean editor, Pam Fitch <theazalean@gmail. com> to be considered for
publication, along with the picture and maybe a few pictures of R.
eastmanii.

Bob Stelloh Hendersonville NC USDA Zone 7

On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Mike Creel wrote:

> My friend Charles H. Eastman died Saturday morning in his home at
> 4805 Barber Street in Columbia near Columbia College and not far
> from the Crane Creek bluffs in Richland County, SC, where he first
> saw a new wild azalea during his boyhood, which was named for him
> in 1999 as an entirely new species. He retired as an engineer for
> the SC Department of Transportation June1, 180 with 30 years of
> service. In his work afield building roads he found more of the
> white azaleas like the ones at Crane Creek, at Santee State Park
> and in Newberry county near a Swertia stand.
>
> <snip>
>
>


#13506 From: Barry Sperling <barrysperling@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 2:51 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
bsperlinus
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Hi Bob,
     I gave a mea culpa on my 'Kunimitsu' error some time ago.  I will
add, though, that the Encore 'Autumn Chiffon', blooming now, is another
of the MANY that look like GLT.
        Barry

Bob Stelloh wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Bill. I agree, 'Kunimitsu' doesn't look like 'George Lindley
> Taber' or the submitted image, per my earlier email.
>
> Dr. Yamaguchi and I have emailed a lot, mostly resolving name
> differences, and to get his permission to copy all his Kurume
> pictures to our picture website. See, in this instance, <http://
> www.pbase.com/azaleasociety/image/50909529>.
>
> Bob Stelloh Hendersonville NC USDA Zone 7
>

#13507 From: "occidentale" <red@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:02 am
Subject: Sad news
redsrhodies
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We lost another legend on Monday, Frank Mossman passed away. I am not entirely sure of his age. One source says 91 and another 93. He was active right up to the last.
 
He was suffering from aortic stenosis and was taken to the hospital on November 6. He passed away during the night of November 8.
 
I have lost a good friend and mentor. The Rhododendron world has lost a one of the experts on R. occidentale and a man who was generous with his knowledge and plants. I have many plants in my garden from Frank.
 
There will be no service.
 
Bob Dunning with the Lake Wilderness Arboretum will be getting more of Franks plants for the Arboretum. Frank was a good record keeper and Bob will probably obtain his records as well. The R. occidentale Garden at Lake Wilderness is a fine memorial to both Frank and his plant hunting partner, Britt Smith.
 
Dick 'Red' Cavender, Red's Rhodies, Sherwood Oregon USA Zone 8
 
 

#13508 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 3:19 am
Subject: Clear domes found at Big Lots store
mikeacreel
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For use in my unorthodox system of outdoor cutting propagation I am always
seeking materials for making domepots that accommodate cuttings of larger-leafed
plants, rhododendrons included.  Like many of you that root cuttings in
greenhouses, I cut half of the leaf off on cuttings for space and to reduce
water loss. But sometimes the leaves of larger-growing species expand and become
crowded inside a humidity dome.

Just today, when using up some time prior to a funeral where I was a pallbearer,
I visited a nearby Big Lots store and found two sizes of large, clear plastic
"Spic and Span" household cleaning buckets that seem to have great potential for
use as humidity domes (inverted over media in a pot) for cuttings in larger/
wider dome pots.  The only question remaining is whether the plastic will become
brittle with constant outdoor exposure to heat, cold, freezing and sun.  The
only alteration these clear buckets need to become humidity domes is drilling a
vent hole in the bottom center with a 1 to 1 1/2-inch diameter cylinder-type
hole saw and plugging that hole with an equivalent size rubber chair foot. 

The use of larger domes (in width and height) in my outdoor domepots would
enable the rooting of larger (branched) cuttings and cuttings of species or
varieties with larger-growing leaves. For years I have rooted Rhododendron
catawbiense and maximum type cuttings.  But I would like to try rooting
magnolias with larger-expanding leaves, even Magnolia macrophylla.  The humidity
domes used outdoors in my zone 8A and colder climes have also afforded cold
protection for the cuttings inside the domes.

I find that there are an increasing number of people trying domepots similar to
mine and finding success. So I thought this informationw was worth sharing with
them.
 Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Nature is my Greenhouse
Fall-Line Sandhills region
Lexington County, South Carolina

#13509 From: "Bill Turk" <farmerturk@...>
Date: Fri Nov 6, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] Clear domes found at Big Lots store
farmerturk@...
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Mike, can you shoot us a picture?

thanks

 

From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Creel
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:20 PM
To: ASA Azaleaphiles
Subject: [AZ] Clear domes found at Big Lots store

 

 

For use in my unorthodox system of outdoor cutting propagation I am always seeking materials for making domepots that accommodate cuttings of larger-leafed plants, rhododendrons included.  Like many of you that root cuttings in greenhouses, I cut half of the leaf off on cuttings for space and to reduce water loss. But sometimes the leaves of larger-growing species expand and become crowded inside a humidity dome.

Just today, when using up some time prior to a funeral where I was a pallbearer, I visited a nearby Big Lots store and found two sizes of large, clear plastic "Spic and Span" household cleaning buckets that seem to have great potential for use as humidity domes (inverted over media in a pot) for cuttings in larger/ wider dome pots.  The only question remaining is whether the plastic will become brittle with constant outdoor exposure to heat, cold, freezing and sun.  The only alteration these clear buckets need to become humidity domes is drilling a vent hole in the bottom center with a 1 to 1 1/2-inch diameter cylinder-type hole saw and plugging that hole with an equivalent size rubber chair foot. 

The use of larger domes (in width and height) in my outdoor domepots would enable the rooting of larger (branched) cuttings and cuttings of species or varieties with larger-growing leaves. For years I have rooted Rhododendron catawbiense and maximum type cuttings.  But I would like to try rooting magnolias with larger-expanding leaves, even Magnolia macrophylla.  The humidity domes used outdoors in my zone 8A and colder climes have also afforded cold protection for the cuttings inside the domes.

I find that there are an increasing number of people trying domepots similar to mine and finding success. So I thought this informationw was worth sharing with them.
 Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Nature is my Greenhouse
Fall-Line Sandhills region
Lexington County, South Carolina


#13510 From: "occidentale" <red@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: Frank Mossman
redsrhodies
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Hi all,
 
Thanks for the many responses.
 
I am afraid that I was a week ahead of myself. Frank was hospitalized on Friday Oct. 30 and passed away the night of 11-1 or the early morning of November 2.
 
Sorry for the mix-up.
 
Dick 'Red' Cavender, Red's Rhodies, Sherwood Oregon USA Zone 8

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