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[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

Dear Azalea Society:

I've included some photos of two of the three azalea plants I inherited when I bought my house although I'm not sure you'll see them through Yahoo Groups. I'm in MInnesota, in Zone 4. I'm assuming they are deciduous, although I'd welcome someone confirming such.

They're beautiful, but I noticed they were stressed this summer, partly due to the drought and heat. However, a large oak tree in my neighbor's yard, that used to provide partial shade throughout the day to these plants, died this year. I'm wondering if the sunlight is also a contributing factor to the dried leaves. Do I need to move them to a shady location? I saw that SOME azalea's like sun, but the message also said that some like shade. Not knowing what kind of azalea's these are or which ones prefer shade, I'm at a loss.

I'm hoping someone can help me out.

Thank you.

Dawn

IMG_8941 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8942 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8945 Azalea in back 2012

#18361

From: "Tom Schuetz" <schuetz101@...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:55 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] What kind of azelea and what kind of light?

mulchall

I will make an attempt at providing an answer to your question.

First, the pictures are of deciduous azaleas. Secondly, they are experiencing a change in conditions, which in itself, can lead to stress. You did not say what the evidence of stress is.

I see that they are mulched, which is good because if the shade has been removed, they are experiencing heat stress they did not experience before. With heat stress they loose moisture at a faster rate.

I am no expert but they appear to be from the Knap Hill hybrid group rather than American natives (which were some of the parents of the Knap Hills). The natives are comfortable in full sun but at higher elevations.

I would not suggest moving them.

Keep them mulched and moderately watered and I believe they will adopt to the changed conditions.

Tom Schuetz

schuetz101@...

USDA Zone 7A (as of 2012)

From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dawn Mergenthaler
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 4:49 PM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AZ] What kind of azelea and what kind of light?

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

Dear Azalea Society:

I'm hoping someone can help me out.

Thank you.

Dawn

IMG_8941 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8942 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8945 Azalea in back 2012

#18362

From: John Migas <azaleajohn@...>
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2012 2:28 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] What kind of azelea and what kind of light?

azaleajohn

http://www.google.com/search?q=northern+hi+lights+azalea&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS270US271&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=TaJrUIaxJ5Ck8QSP6ICoCg&ved=0CCAQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=602

Hi Dawn,

What you have are 'Golden Lights', 'Rosy Lights', and 'Mandarin Lights'.

These azaleas are from a series created in Minnesota called the Northern Hi-lights.

These are tough old plants and can take up to minus 40 below zero. I grow all of these in western Michigan and do do great in shade or sun. By now they should be going dorment and turning beautiful fall colors.

Don't be afraid to keep them in the sun, just keep them mulched and water them frequent during the growing season. The wind is just as hard on these plants as the sun is, drying them out, so keep them watered.

To compare your photos, I included an attachment with Northern Hi-light azaleas.

If the attachment doesn't come thru, just google "Northern Hi-lights azaleaz".

Good luck...............John Migas(Michigan)

From: Dawn Mergenthaler <dmergenthaler@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:48 PM
Subject: [AZ] What kind of azelea and what kind of light?

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

Dear Azalea Society:

I'm hoping someone can help me out.

Thank you.

Dawn

IMG_8941 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8942 Azalea in back 2012

IMG_8945 Azalea in back 2012

#18363

From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2012 12:58 am
Subject: 'Anna's Smile' as a Parent

sjperk5

Sally and I donated seed to the ASA seed exchange where 'Anna's Smile' was the
seed parent and other seed where it was the pollen parent.

Has anyone on this forum germinated seed where 'Anna's Smile' is a parent?

We gave all the seed away that included 'Anna's Smile' as a parent so we do not
know how well seed germinates with this plant as one of the parents.

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#18364

From: "Linda Blakely" <linda-blakely@...>
Date: Thu Oct 4, 2012 2:00 pm
Subject: Azalea Diseases

linda-blakely@...

this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC. My azaleas are located on the south side of my home. They are shaded in the mornings but get afternoon sun. I live in Shreveport LA (northwest Louisiana). The leaves of my plants are covered with a white substance looking somewhat like mold and the bottoms of the leaves look like they have black specks on them. They have been in my yard for over 15 years but this is the first time I have noticed this problem.

What do I need to do to fix this problem before it does too much damage to my plants? My email address is linda-blakely@.... Thank you very much for your help.

#18365

From: "hevestenning" <rhodyman@...>
Date: Sat Oct 6, 2012 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: Azalea Diseases

hevestenning

Original sent to Linda by email:

Hi Linda,

Thanks for asking the Azalea Group.

If a tree fell down that was creating shade or perhaps was pruned back, the additional sun could have made conditions right for lace bug:

Whitish specks on the upper surface of leaves and dark spots varnish-like on the bottom are symptoms of Rhododendron Lace Bugs, Stephanitis rhododendri, andAzalea Lace Bugs, Stephanitis pyrioides, small insects with transparent wings on under-surface of leaves. This insect hatches early in spring as the new foliage begins to mature and its numbers may build to damaging levels with successive generations. Lace bugs reach their peak in late summer and do their worst in sunny, exposed sites. Spiders are important predators of lace bugs and since they shy away from sunny, hot places, plant your azaleas where there is some shade. Insecticidal soap, horticultural oil, or a systemic insecticide may spare your azaleas the damage if applied in spring when the first hatchlings are noticed. Care must be taken to spray the lower surfaces of the leaves where the lace bugs live. Moving a plant to an area with more shade may alleviate the problem. Lace bugs are more prevalent on certain varieties. The following azalea cultivars have resistance to azalea lace bug: 'Dawn,' 'Pink Star,' 'Ereka,' 'Cavalier,' 'Pink Fancy,' 'Dram,' 'Seigei,' 'Macrantha,' 'Salmon Pink,' 'Elsie Lee,' 'Red Wing,' Sunglow' and 'Marilee.'

Steve Henning, Zone 6, Reading, PA USA

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups.com, "Linda Blakely" <linda-blakely@...> wrote:
>
> this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC. My azaleas are located on the south side of my home. They are shaded in the mornings but get afternoon sun. I live in Shreveport LA (northwest Louisiana). The leaves of my plants are covered with a white substance looking somewhat like mold and the bottoms of the leaves look like they have black specks on them. They have been in my yard for over 15 years but this is the first time I have noticed this problem.
>
> What do I need to do to fix this problem before it does too much damage to my plants? My email address is linda-blakely@... Thank you very much for your help.
>

#18366

From: Colleen Gottselig <cegottselig@...>
Date: Mon Oct 8, 2012 7:50 pm
Subject: Wintering Azaleas

cegottselig@...

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I bought an azalea a number of years ago in Victoria, BC  There I had
it in a container, because it does not freeze very often it wintered
well.  I then moved it a little further up Vancouver Island and
planted it in my garden, apparently deer love them, to I had to put it
back into a container.  Again the coldest it may get is -5C (about
28F), during the winter I would move it to a shelter location but it
was still outside.  This spring I moved to Calgary.  I live in a
townhouse condo complex so the azalea is still in a container.  It can
get -40 (C & F are equal at that point).  For the winter what can I
do?  Can I bring it inside?  Unfortunately I do not know the name. The
flowers are orange and look like Higasa.

I hope you can offer suggestions>

Thanks so much,
Colleen Gottselig

#18367

From: "Steve Henning" <rhodyman@...>
Date: Mon Oct 8, 2012 11:31 pm
Subject: Re: Wintering Azaleas

hevestenning

Original sent to Colleen by email:

Hi Colleen,

Thanks for asking the Azalea Group.

The trick is to let it go dormant and stay dormant all winter, but at the same
time protect it from severe cold.  Where I live in Pennsylvania, an unheated
garage works fine.

A friend places plants outside in his basement window-wells and covers them with
leaves.

Another possibility would be to place in a cold basement near a north window or
an unheated room near a north window.

Lacking any of these options, making a leanto outside a basement window with a
double sash window should work.

In any case I would recommend placing a min-max thermometer near the plant where
you can see it without exposing the plant to heat or severe cold.  A stable
temperature near freezing is ideal.  Some  exposure to natural light is best but
no direct sunlight.

If the azalea is deciduous, then it can take cooler temperatures.

In any case, the plant will need to be occasionally watered if it is exposed to
dry air to keep the soil slightly moist.

Steve Henning, Reading, PA, USA,  Zone 6

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups.com, Colleen Gottselig <cegottselig@...> wrote:
>
> This is from the ASK US page, so please send a CC
>
> I bought an azalea a number of years ago in Victoria, BC  There I had
> it in a container, because it does not freeze very often it wintered
> well.  I then moved it a little further up Vancouver Island and
> planted it in my garden, apparently deer love them, to I had to put it
> back into a container.  Again the coldest it may get is -5C (about
> 28F), during the winter I would move it to a shelter location but it
> was still outside.  This spring I moved to Calgary.  I live in a
> townhouse condo complex so the azalea is still in a container.  It can
> get -40 (C & F are equal at that point).  For the winter what can I
> do?  Can I bring it inside?  Unfortunately I do not know the name. The
> flowers are orange and look like Higasa.
>
> I hope you can offer suggestions>
>
> Thanks so much,
> Colleen Gottselig
>

#18368

From: Amanda Shaw <adda.littlelady@...>
Date: Tue Oct 9, 2012 7:18 pm
Subject: My azalea leaves keep dying

adda.littlelady@...

this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC

I have gone through several azalea plants and cannot figure out why they keep dying.а They are indoors in cool temperature.а Each time their leaves have dried up, turned brown, and fallen off.а The flowers fall off too.а I try to water only when the plants are dry.а I live in central Kansas.

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#18369

From: ANNETTE GAVILLAC <gavillac@...>
Date: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:54 pm
Subject: Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

gavillac

The flower color of the evergreen azalea Pryored is a unique true red with no trace of blue

or any other color..

I have seen no evergreen azalea clone with a true red colored flowers that Pryored

could have inherited it from?.

Pryored is officially stated to have a deciduous parent(s).

Are there any deciduous azalea either American or Asiatic that have this true red

flower color of Pryored, that Pryored could have inherited it from.

Are the stripes on the azalea Kakie true red?

Annette Gavillac

Evansville, Indiana......... Was in USDA zone 6b now in USDA 7a according to latest USDA map

#18370

From: Tadeusz Dauksza <iltkyao@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

iltkyao

Annette-

Could u explain why any of the offsprings of 'Vittatum' as pollen or seed pods have "RED" in them ???

Tadeusz- LM- ASA

From: ANNETTE GAVILLAC <gavillac@...>
To: "azaleas@yahoogroups.com" <azaleas@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

The flower color of the evergreen azalea Pryored is a unique true red with no trace of blue

or any other color..

I have seen no evergreen azalea clone with a true red colored flowers that Pryored

could have inherited it from?.

Pryored is officially stated to have a deciduous parent(s).

Are there any deciduous azalea either American or Asiatic that have this true red

flower color of Pryored, that Pryored could have inherited it from.

Are the stripes on the azalea Kakie true red?

Annette Gavillac

Evansville, Indiana......... Was in USDA zone 6b now in USDA 7a according to latest USDA map

#18371

From: Alan Lance Andersen <2004@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:40 am
Subject: Azaleas Range

2004@...

Can Azaleas grow outdoors in Siberia ???

Thanks.

ALAN

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#18372

From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:46 pm
Subject: Dwarf azalea Snow Flurry

mikeacreel

Does anyone grow the dwarf azalea Snow Flurry? I assume it is white.  I would trade a native azalea plant or seeds (or fresh Aesculus parviflora seeds) for some woody cuttings.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington, South Carolina

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#18373

From: "Dell" <dell1320@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC

dell1320@...

I ran across this note while research Gerbing's Gardens myself.  My mother was a
1948 contestant in the garden beauty contest and I am presently writing her life
story.  The owners of the actual gardens can be found at cdharbin@...
and Cathy is happy to speak of her wonderful gardens.  They are presently broken
into plots and have been built upon but Cathy and her husband have been
furiously uncovering the hidden treasures in the actual gardens themselves.  My
mother and I will be travelling to visit with Cathy on Nov 3, 2012 and Mama will
hopefully be able to try to remember places and things of that day so long ago. 
We have some pictures and pamphlets of the original gardens but as stated in
previous posts, Mr. Gerbing sold the property in 1950.  Cathy's family were
fortunate in purchasing the property some years ago and she has been
instrumental in bringing the history back.

I hope this answers Linda and Joe Tunner's questions; albeit late.

Dell Anne Hines Afzal, Author,
TREASURES in the ATTIC: GIFTS from a WOMAN of FAITH, available at Barnes & Noble
website.

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups.com, "William C. Miller III" <bill@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Linda and Joe,
>
> Gerber is probably Gerbing.  Gustav George Gerbing was a camellia grower who
opened his
> garden of azaleas and camellias to the public in 1945, the Gerbing Gardens in
Amelia
> Island, Florida.  He wrote three books all entitled Camellias in 1943, 1945,
and 1950.  He
> sold his nursery in 1944 and closed the public gardens in 1950.  G. G. Gerbing
passed away
> in 1984.  His wife,  Azilda, died in 1994.
>
> You might try the Amelia Island Museum of History.  See their Web site at:
> http://www.ameliamuseum.org/     You might try e-mailing Thea Segraves at
> thea@...   At one time, she was the Volunteer and Tour Coordinator.  The
> phone number that I have for her is (904) 261-7378 (x. 105).  I looked into G.
G Gerbing
> in 2006 so my information is a little dated.  But, anyone at the museum ought
to be able
> to tell you if the gardens are still there or if they have been transformed
into condominiums.
>
> William C. Miller III
> Bethesda, Maryland
> www.theazaleaworks.com
>
> Joseph Tunner wrote:
> >
> > Good morning,
> > My wife and I recently found an old horticultural reference book from about
1940 by
> > Gerber.  It references an azalea garden on the Amelia River in Florida
established by
> > the author.  I've been unable to find any reference to it.
> > It is:
> > "Gerber Azalea Gardens"
> > Does anyone in the Azalea society know if this still exists and if so where
it might be
> > or who to contact regarding it?
> > Best regards,
> > Linda and Joe Tunner
> >
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> >
> > This document is intended only for the party or parties to whom it is
addressed
> > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and protected
from
> > disclosure under applicable law.  If you are not the addressee or person
> > authorized to deliver this document to the addressee, you are notified that
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please
> > immediately notify the sender.  Thank you
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#18374

From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

mikeacreel

20_EarlyPrune (Medium).jpg

Annette,
Attached are photos of my Pryored, grown from an northern arboretum cutting collected from a snow drift, and my R. prunifolium Early Prune.  The colors are similar, both lacking blue or purple, but certainly possessing orange and perhaps yellow recessive traits.
 
Since Pryored is a hose in hose, I would assume that it cannot make seed, though it has viable pollen. I have made no attempts to pollinate Pryored.
 
My cross of atlanticum X Pryored has dark red stems and many of the evergreen leaves turn deep red in fall.  It will bloom on probably 5 stems in 2013 from fat buds.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington, South Carolina

From: ANNETTE GAVILLAC <gavillac@...>
To: "azaleas@yahoogroups.com" <azaleas@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:54 PM
Subject: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

 The flower color of the evergreen azalea Pryored is a unique true red with no trace of blue
or any other color..
I have seen no evergreen azalea clone with a true red colored flowers that Pryored
could have inherited it from?.

Pryored is officially stated to have a deciduous parent(s).
Are there any deciduous azalea either American or Asiatic that have this true red
flower color of Pryored, that Pryored could have inherited it from.

Are the stripes on the azalea Kakie true red?

Annette Gavillac
Evansville, Indiana......... Was in USDA zone 6b now in USDA 7a according to latest USDA map

2 of 2 Photo(s)

08_Pryored (Medium).jpg

#18375

From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:11 am
Subject: how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot

carolyn@...

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

Hi. I live at the beach in San Diego (winter temperature usually not below
40, summer temperature usually 75, moist air).

I have four tiny azaleas in a four-inch pot, that I got at Home Depot some
time in the winter. All four were blooming and continued to bloom, inside
for about a month. When the plants started to reach for more light, I put
the pot on my porch. All four plants came back into bloom about 3 weeks
ago. The blooms are huge, the leaves are a nice deep green.

I want to separate the plants. What is the best way to do this? Should I
use a knife and cut them, or should I try to pull them apart and let them
break where they will, or some combination of both pulling and cutting,
or what?

I had another such pot of azaleas a few years ago. The plants bloomed
non-stop (I'm not kidding) indoors on the window sill for two years. I
really got a lot of pleasure out of this, which is why I decided to try
again recently. When that first set finally stopped blooming, I tried to
separate them. Two died within a few weeks. The other two lived a rather
stunted life and bloomed a little, but they never thrived or grew.

I really hate the way they put multiple plants in one pot these days, all
sorts of plants that don't like to share. But I really needed some flowers
inside this winter, and I couldn't get a single azalea that would fit in
the space, so I ended up with this stupid problem again. I don't like to
throw away perfectly good plants if I can save them.

Any suggestions?

--
Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
www.supersaturated.com          The mind is a terrible thing.

#18376

From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:15 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot

mikeacreel

Carolyn, often propagating nurseries will stick 3 to 5 stem cuttings into one pot so that one or more will grow into a salable sized, blooming plant.  Often I have sought out such plants at nurseries, once finding three good vaseyi azaleas in one pot, which I separated, repotted and now have as mature plants in the ground.

Don't cut the plants apart.  Stick the root ball in water and use your fingers to loosen the media, carefully separating the roots and plants without breaking roots or stems.  This should take 10 minutes or so.  Then repot with porous good draining media in good draining pots.  Add a little time release fertilizer.

Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington, South Carolina

From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:11 PM
Subject: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

Hi. I live at the beach in San Diego (winter temperature usually not below 
40, summer temperature usually 75, moist air).

I have four tiny azaleas in a four-inch pot, that I got at Home Depot some 
time in the winter. All four were blooming and continued to bloom, inside 
for about a month. When the plants started to reach for more light, I put 
the pot on my porch. All four plants came back into bloom about 3 weeks 
ago. The blooms are huge, the leaves are a nice deep green.

I want to separate the plants. What is the best way to do this? Should I 
use a knife and cut them, or should I try to pull them apart and let them 
break where they will, or some combination of both pulling and cutting, 
or what?

I had another such pot of azaleas a few years ago. The plants bloomed 
non-stop (I'm not kidding) indoors on the window sill for two
years. I 
really got a lot of pleasure out of this, which is why I decided to try 
again recently. When that first set finally stopped blooming, I tried to 
separate them. Two died within a few weeks. The other two lived a rather 
stunted life and bloomed a little, but they never thrived or grew.

I really hate the way they put multiple plants in one pot these days, all 
sorts of plants that don't like to share. But I really needed some flowers 
inside this winter, and I couldn't get a single azalea that would fit in 
the space, so I ended up with this stupid problem again. I don't like to 
throw away perfectly good plants if I can save them.

Any suggestions?

-- 
Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
http://www.supersaturated.com/ The mind is a terrible thing.

#18377

From: John Sweeney <jcs7600@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:06 am
Subject: When is best time of year to plant azaleas in MD?

jcs7600@...

Hello,

  Is it okay to plant azaleas in october in MD?  When is the optimal time of
year?

#18378

From: David Nanney <dnanney@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] When is best time of year to plant azaleas in MD?

davenleslien

Absolutely. No. Va. Is having our plant sale today so many plants are going in the ground in the near future.

Springfield Va.

And the leaves are following...

Dave Nanney

On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, John Sweeney <jcs7600@...> wrote:

Hello,

Is it okay to plant azaleas in october in MD? When is the optimal time of year?

#18379

From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

sjperk5

Mike

We are very interested in testing the ploidy level of 'Pryored' and the
seedlings fromt he cross of atlanticum by 'Pryored'.

John Perkins
Salem, NH

--- In azaleas@yahoogroups.com, Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...> wrote:
>
> Annette,
> Attached are photos of my Pryored, grown from an northern arboretum cutting
collected from a snow drift, and my R. prunifolium Early Prune.┬а The colors are
similar, both lacking blue or purple, but certainly possessing orange and
perhaps yellow recessive traits.
> ┬а
> Since Pryored is a hose in hose, I would assume that it cannot make seed,
though it has viable pollen. I have made no attempts to pollinate Pryored.
> ┬а
> My cross of atlanticum X Pryored has dark red stems and many of the evergreen
leaves turn deep red in fall.┬а It will bloom on probably 5 stems in 2013 from
fat buds.
>
> Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
> Lexington, South Carolina
>
>
> >________________________________
> >From: ANNETTE GAVILLAC <gavillac@...>
> >To: "azaleas@yahoogroups.com" <azaleas@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:54 PM
> >Subject: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored
> >
> >
> >┬а
> >The flower color of the evergreen azalea Pryored is a unique true red with no
trace of blue
> >or any other color..
> >I have seen no evergreen azalea clone with a true red colored flowers that
Pryored
> >could have inherited it from?.
> >
> >
> >Pryored is officially stated to have a deciduous parent(s).
> >Are there any deciduous azalea either American or Asiatic that have this true
red
> >flower color of Pryored, that Pryored could have inherited it from.
> >
> >
> >
> >Are the stripes on the azalea Kakie true red?
> >
> >
> >Annette Gavillac
> >Evansville, Indiana......... Was in USDA zone 6b now in USDA 7a according to
latest USDA map
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

#18380

From: "Tom Schuetz" <schuetz101@...>
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:43 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] When is best time of year to plant azaleas in MD?

mulchall

Dave, pardon me for being pedantic but your response can be viewed as extremely confusing. I will take the liberty of translating your hurried e-mail:

Azaleas can (absolutely) be planted now.

In (No)rthern Virginia (Va), we are having our plant sale today................................

(Springfield Va) is not far from Maryland.

Tom Schuetz

schuetz101@...

USDA Zone 7A (as of 2012)

From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Nanney
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:54 AM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZ] When is best time of year to plant azaleas in MD?

Absolutely. No. Va. Is having our plant sale today so many plants are going in the ground in the near future.

Springfield Va.

And the leaves are following...

Dave Nanney

On Oct 13, 2012, at 11:06 PM, John Sweeney <jcs7600@...> wrote:

Hello,

Is it okay to plant azaleas in october in MD? When is the optimal time of year?

#18381

From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot

carolyn@...

Thanks for your quick response, Mike! You've been very helpful. I will try
that.

I didn't realize that Azaleas were readily separable. I look for
multiple-plant Fuchsias the way that you look for multiple-plant Azaleas.
But Fuchsias are a lot easier to pull apart and they don't mind it at all!
I had tried pulling the previous pot of Azaleas apart, but maybe they had
just been together for too long.

Carolyn

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Mike Creel wrote:

> Carolyn, often propagating nurseries will stick 3 to 5 stem cuttings into one
pot so that one or more will grow into a salable sized, blooming plant.┬а Often
I have sought out such plants at nurseries, once finding three good vaseyi
azaleas in one pot, which I separated, repotted and now have as mature plants in
the ground.
> ┬а
> Don't cut the plants apart.┬а Stick the root ball in water and use your
fingers to loosen the media, carefully separating the roots and plants without
breaking roots or stems.┬а This should take 10 minutes or so.┬а Then repot with
porous good draining media in good draining pots.┬а Add a little time release
fertilizer.
>
> Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
> Lexington, South Carolina
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
>> To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:11 PM
>> Subject: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot
>>
>>
>> ┬а
>>
>> [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
>>
>> Hi. I live at the beach in San Diego (winter temperature usually not below
>> 40, summer temperature usually 75, moist air).
>>
>> I have four tiny azaleas in a four-inch pot, that I got at Home Depot some
>> time in the winter. All four were blooming and continued to bloom, inside
>> for about a month. When the plants started to reach for more light, I put
>> the pot on my porch. All four plants came back into bloom about 3 weeks
>> ago. The blooms are huge, the leaves are a nice deep green.
>>
>> I want to separate the plants. What is the best way to do this? Should I
>> use a knife and cut them, or should I try to pull them apart and let them
>> break where they will, or some combination of both pulling and cutting,
>> or what?
>>
>> I had another such pot of azaleas a few years ago. The plants bloomed
>> non-stop (I'm not kidding) indoors on the window sill for two years. I
>> really got a lot of pleasure out of this, which is why I decided to try
>> again recently. When that first set finally stopped blooming, I tried to
>> separate them. Two died within a few weeks. The other two lived a rather
>> stunted life and bloomed a little, but they never thrived or grew.
>>
>> I really hate the way they put multiple plants in one pot these days, all
>> sorts of plants that don't like to share. But I really needed some flowers
>> inside this winter, and I couldn't get a single azalea that would fit in
>> the space, so I ended up with this stupid problem again. I don't like to
>> throw away perfectly good plants if I can save them.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
>> http://www.supersaturated.com/ The mind is a terrible thing.
>>
>>
>>
>>

--
Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
www.supersaturated.com          The mind is a terrible thing.

#18382

From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:42 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot

mikeacreel

Exercise great patience in separating the plants, not strongly pulling stems or roots, just working them apart with your figures, not forcing or jerking, in WET media, not dry.  If you have ever "successfullly" worked on a backlash on a baitcasting or spinning reel (particularly when the fish are biting and you have no spare rod & reel) you will understand careful patience.
 
Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
Lexington, South Carolina

From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
To: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...> 
Cc: "azaleas@yahoogroups.com" <azaleas@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot


Thanks for your quick response, Mike! You've been very helpful. I will try that.

I didn't realize
that Azaleas were readily separable. I look for multiple-plant Fuchsias the way that you look for multiple-plant Azaleas. But Fuchsias are a lot easier to pull apart and they don't mind it at all! I had tried pulling the previous pot of Azaleas apart, but maybe they had just been together for too long.

Carolyn

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Mike Creel wrote:

> Carolyn, often propagating nurseries will stick 3 to 5 stem cuttings into one pot so that one or more will grow into a salable sized, blooming plant.  Often I have sought out such plants at nurseries, once finding three good vaseyi azaleas in one pot, which I separated, repotted and now have as mature plants in the ground.
>  
> Don't cut the plants apart.  Stick the root ball in water and use your fingers to loosen the media, carefully separating the roots and plants without breaking roots or stems.  This should take 10 minutes or so.  Then repot
with porous good draining media in good draining pots.  Add a little time release fertilizer.
> 
> Mike Creel, SC USDA Zone 8a
> Lexington, South Carolina
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Carolyn Ray <carolyn@...>
>> To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:11 PM
>> Subject: [AZ] how to separate azaleas in multiple-plant florist pot
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> [this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]
>> 
>> Hi. I live at the beach in San Diego (winter temperature usually not below 40, summer temperature usually 75, moist air).
>> 
>> I have four tiny azaleas in a four-inch
pot, that I got at Home Depot some time in the winter. All four were blooming and continued to bloom, inside for about a month. When the plants started to reach for more light, I put the pot on my porch. All four plants came back into bloom about 3 weeks ago. The blooms are huge, the leaves are a nice deep green.
>> 
>> I want to separate the plants. What is the best way to do this? Should I use a knife and cut them, or should I try to pull them apart and let them break where they will, or some combination of both pulling and cutting, or what?
>> 
>> I had another such pot of azaleas a few years ago. The plants bloomed non-stop (I'm not kidding) indoors on the window sill for two years. I really got a lot of pleasure out of this, which is why I decided to try again recently. When that first set finally stopped blooming, I tried to separate them. Two died within a few weeks. The other two lived a rather stunted life
and bloomed a little, but they never thrived or grew.
>> 
>> I really hate the way they put multiple plants in one pot these days, all sorts of plants that don't like to share. But I really needed some flowers inside this winter, and I couldn't get a single azalea that would fit in the space, so I ended up with this stupid problem again. I don't like to throw away perfectly good plants if I can save them.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> -- Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
>> http://www.supersaturated.com/ The mind is a terrible thing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 

-- Carolyn Ray, Ph.D.
http://www.supersaturated.com/          The mind is a terrible thing.

#18383

From: "David Nanney" <dnanney@...>
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:35 pm
Subject: Gumpkins

davenleslien

We picked up a nice plant labeled Gumpkins on Sunday at the Northern Virginia plant sale. Pete Vines catalog lists it as a Yavorsky hybrid. The Azalea Book and the ASA web site shows it as an intergroup hybrid. Didn’t see it listed as a Yavorsky hybrid in my web search.

Does anyone have any better information about this plant? I’m guessing it’s a Satsuki hybrid, probably off a Gumpo parent, but that’s a guess.

Thanks.

Dave Nanney

Springfield, Virginia

61 degrees and sunny.

Our almost three year old granddaughter is coming over to “help” us plant our new azaleas. Wish us luck…

#18384

From: Bob Stelloh <bstelloh@...>
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Gumpkins

oakhillbob

The International Rhododendron Register and Checklist says "parentage
unknown" for 'Gumpkins'. See
     http://www.pbase.com/image/36406409
for some pictures of mine, which I got from Gordon Severe in 1986 as
a Yavorsky hybrid. That was even before the 1990 Pete Vines catalog I
have and treasure as a resource. My plant is very small, maybe only a
foot high by 3-4 feet wide, with small leaves. It blooms late May -
early June.

Bob Stelloh  Hendersonville NC  USDA Zone 7


On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:35 AM, David Nanney wrote:

> We picked up a nice plant labeled Gumpkins on Sunday at the
> Northern Virginia plant sale.  Pete Vines catalog lists it as a
> Yavorsky hybrid.  The Azalea Book and the ASA web site shows it as
> an intergroup hybrid.  DidnТt see it listed as a Yavorsky hybrid in
> my web search.
>
> Does anyone have any better information about this plant?   IТm
> guessing itТs a Satsuki hybrid, probably off a Gumpo parent, but
> thatТs a guess.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave Nanney
> Springfield, Virginia
> 61 degrees and sunny.
> Our almost three year old granddaughter is coming over to УhelpФ us
> plant our new azaleas.  Wish us luckЕ
>
>
>

#18385

From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:48 pm
Subject: Melba's Dream

sjperk5

For those of you who grow Melba's Dream how strong is the evidence that Melba's
Dream contains a deciduous azalea as the pollen parent?

In other words what physical characteristics convince you that Melba's Dream is
not 100% evergreen azalea?

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#18386

From: Joe Coleman <jcoleazalea@...>
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:35 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] Melba's Dream

jcolemanazalea

Difficulty in propagation....far greater than than the usual evergreen azaleas!

To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
From: sjperk5@...
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:48:32 +0000
Subject: [AZ] Melba's Dream

For those of you who grow Melba's Dream how strong is the evidence that Melba's Dream contains a deciduous azalea as the pollen parent?

In other words what physical characteristics convince you that Melba's Dream is not 100% evergreen azalea?

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#18387

From: Pamela <pamela@...>
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:50 pm
Subject: What are the MOST shade tolerant varieties for southern loactions?

pamela@...

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

I am writing from Jacksonville Florida and would like to plant azaleas
in a bed on the north side of my home.  The yard is under a canopy of
very large Live Oaks, so light is limited to that which diffuses through
it.  The oaks also drop many leaves, so the soil is relatively acidic
and sandy.  Any advice would be appreciated. The information I have
found on internet searches has been all over the place and just confused
me further, with some sites saying deciduous and others saying
evergreen, and most recommending varieties I could not find anyway.
Thanks in advance!

#18388

From: ANNETTE GAVILLAC <gavillac@...>
Date: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

gavillac

Annette-

Could u explain why any of the offsprings of 'Vittatum' as pollen or seed pods have "RED" in them ???

Tadeusz- LM- ASA

Tad
I don't completely understand your question.
If you cross the white flowered Vittatum' with an azalea which had TWO
red flowered parents, you will likely get 100 % red and purple red seedlings.
There will be no white flowered seedling.

If you cross the striped white flowered Vittatum' with a red flowered azalea that had ONE red flowered parent, you will likely get about 75 % white and white with red striped
flowered seedlings, and about 25% red and/or purple red seedling.

Do you mean why are Vittatum' seedlings blushed red?

Annette
Indiana/Kentucky

From: Tadeusz Dauksza C
To: "azaleas@yahoogroups.com" <azaleas@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ] Unique flower color of azalea Pryored

Annette-

Could u explain why any of the offsprings of 'Vittatum' as pollen or seed pods have "RED" in them ???

Tadeusz- LM- ASA

#18389

From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] What are the MOST shade tolerant varieties for southern loactions?

azaleabill

Hi Pamela,

I don't see a problem --- sandy soil under a canopy of large oaks that permit filtered sunlight. Filtered sunlight will allow for lots of flower production and the flowers will last longer than they would under full sun.

Where do you buy your azaleas? What do they offer locally? That's the place to start. Most nurseries sell plants that are suitable for their region. Rarely do they (pardon the expression) go out on a limb and try to sell something unsuitable.

Rather than give you a very long list of cultivar names of individual plants that you might not be able to find anyway, it is more useful to recommend hybrid groups --- any of the members of which would do well in Jacksonville. On the evergreen side, the Southern Indian hybrids (also called Southern Indicas), the Glenn Dales, the Kurume hybrids, the Harris hybrids, the Pericat hybrids, the Robin Hill hybrids, and the Aromi hybrids would do well. On the deciduous side, the Confederate Series and the Aromi hybrids would do well in your area. Any nursery that sells azaleas should be able to identify the hybrid group to which they belong.

I don't believe you will have any difficulty finding some of the Encore (R) hybrid azaleas. They are evergreen, they try to bloom constantly, and they are sold almost everywhere. They were developed in the South so they should do well in Jacksonville. If you go to the Encore(R) Web site, I believe they have a locator page that will pinpoint nurseries that sell Encore(R) hybrids.

William C. Miller III
Bethesda, Maryland Zone 7
www.theazaleaworks.com

Pamela wrote:

[this is from the ASK US page, so please send me a CC]

I am writing from Jacksonville Florida and would like to plant azaleas
in a bed on the north side of my home. The yard is under a canopy of
very large Live Oaks, so light is limited to that which diffuses through
it. The oaks also drop many leaves, so the soil is relatively acidic
and sandy. Any advice would be appreciated. The information I have
found on internet searches has been all over the place and just confused
me further, with some sites saying deciduous and others saying
evergreen, and most recommending varieties I could not find anyway.
Thanks in advance!