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#8654 From: "Warren Groomes" <wgroomes@...>
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2007 5:27 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Did a rain dance
w_groomes1
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I left my car windows open, hoping for a sprinkle here I Land O' Lakes Florida only to be told by my helpful neighbors that I would attract snakes.  I drove for two days watching my feet!  We had two black snakes on our lanai.  Its snake season ugh.  Judy Groomes
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Sawyer
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ] Did a rain dance

I just realized that I "created" rain once about 20 years ago - years before I took up gardening - so here's my (almost) infallable tip:
 
Plan an outdoor event which cannot be moved indoors.
 
Mine was a children's birthday party where I rented a pony for the children to take rides on. Well, I guess I need not explain any further the events of that day.

Mike Creel <mikeacreel@yahoo.com> wrote:
I guess one more of my way-out theories is proving
itself somewhat true. Oh, the temptation is great to
run out and cut off a sprinkler when a long-overdue
rain show starts, but we MUST restrain ourselves.

The sprinkler is not aligned with priming the pump to
get water started. It may well the the pump or at
least some sort of magnet. Things got so dry at my
place I bought two of those big all-metal Rainbird
sprinklers that cover 5800 square feet.

With the good water pressure from my gravel-packed
(10-inch hole) sand well, 121 feet deep with the
submersible pump strainer set at 90 we get good water
pressure, even during dry times, and good tasting
water.

But my water will eat up copper pipe, so I had my
house replumbed (built in 1976) a few years ago by a
salesman at the plumbing supply store where I was
going to buy pipe to do it myself. I am glad I did
not try replumbing, and the cost was quite reasonable,
much better than regular commercial plumbers.

Mike Creel, Lexington, SC
If you want more rain plan a project outside where
staying dry would be beneficial. And look out, or
really don't look out.

I have a cousin who out-dumbs fish and catches the
most and biggest ones in places he has never fished
before, even in backyard ponds thought to be
uninhabited by finny critters. He can make a terrible
cast, smoke a cigarette or untangle a backlash, and
all heck will break loose at the end of his line with
yet another lunker hooking itself.

--- Joe Schild <azaleajoe@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Mike,
> The is something really to you ideas, rain dance.
> Yesterday afternoon about 4:30pm, I left a sprinkler
> on to one of those beds out of reach of my normal
> in-ground irrigation system. I came inside to take a
> glass of tea and relax a bit when I was shakend by
> the sound of thunder and within fifteen minutes it
> started to rain. We ended up with nearly one inch
> over the next hour. It was the first rain in over
> four weeks. Well, so much for the later performance
> of a rain dance in the dark.
>
> Joe



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#8655 From: "Red Cavender" <red@...>
Date: Mon Sep 3, 2007 6:44 am
Subject: Cleaning address book
redsrhodies
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Sorry for the intrusion. Due to several computer upgrades, my address book has many duplicates. I am sure that many of theses are not any good any more. In an effort to resolve this, I am sending this to everyone in the file. No need to reply unless you feel the need. I will delete all the addresses that come back
 
Dick 'Red' Cavender, Sherwood Oregon

#8656 From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 1:57 pm
Subject: Who was ---- Arthur E. Radcliffe?
azaleabill
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I don't think very many people are going to be able to answer his
question.

But, there may be an old timer or two who can answer the question ---
"Who was Arthur E. Radcliffe?"

Bill Miller
Bethesda, Maryland
www.theazaleaworks.com

#8657 From: "casavelcro" <casavelcro@...>
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 9:25 am
Subject: Azaleas inside house
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Was given a gift of an Azalea plant. They do not grow in our area so I
kept it inside.

Have had it several years, fertilized as directed and it has bloomed !

#8658 From: "casavelcro" <casavelcro@...>
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 9:27 am
Subject: Azalea inside house
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After receiving a gift of an Azalea I kept it inside since in Austin.
Texas the soil is not acid enough.

Used fertilizer as directed, maintained by a window and have had it
several years and it has bloomed.

#8659 From: "George Klump" <mixturev@...>
Date: Wed Sep 5, 2007 4:56 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Azalea inside house
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4 September 2007
 
Down in Austin the statement about alkaline soil is probably true.  However, from Dallas east it is not.  Have you been to Tyler, Longview, San Augustine, Jasper, Lufkin, Marshalltown, et al?
 
George Klump
Southern California Chapter
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: casavelcro
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:27 AM
Subject: [AZ] Azalea inside house

After receiving a gift of an Azalea I kept it inside since in Austin.
Texas the soil is not acid enough.

Used fertilizer as directed, maintained by a window and have had it
several years and it has bloomed.


#8660 From: "Garry Potts" <gp@...>
Date: Thu Sep 6, 2007 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: pruning question
gp@...
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Anybody there? I never received a reply....

On 8/29/07, Garry Potts <gp@...> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am a rank amateur gardener living in Dallas, Texas. I planted dwarf
> Encore azaleas two years ago, and they have done very well so far. We
> had an enormous amount of rain last spring and early summer, and now
> we have numerous extremely tall branches (I believe farmers call them
> "sports" when they outrun the rest of the crop)...shooting up and
> making the plants look rather silly at the moment, like unkempt
> feathers on a fledgling bird.
>
> There is a natural temptation to prune some of them down, but your FAQ
> says, "pruning after mid-summer cuts off next year's bloom." Should I
> stick to that advice or might this situation be an exception?
>
> Many thanks for whatever suggestions you can provide. And let me know
> if a photo would help.
>
> Garry Potts
>
>
> O  214-871-0408
> C  214-850-8124
> F  214-871-0552
>
> 4645 Fairfax Ave.
> Dallas TX 75209
>
> www.pottsproductions.com
>


--
Garry Potts

Potts Productions
P.O. Box 190199
Dallas TX 75219

O  214-871-0408
C  214-850-8124
F  214-871-0552

4645 Fairfax Ave.
Dallas TX 75209

www.pottsproductions.com

#8661 From: "Steve Hoff" <shoff@...>
Date: Thu Sep 6, 2007 10:07 pm
Subject: encore azaleas
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where can i buy the small starter cups of encores in volume? tks, steve

#8662 From: "Tom Schuetz" <schuetz101@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 12:16 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Re: pruning question
mulchall
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Garry, many times the action a person takes with respect to pruning is a matter of personal preference where you must decide what result is better for you. The statement is true that "pruning after midsummer cuts off next years bloom".  The statement is meant to caution against giving an azalea a close pruning in the fall. It is also possible that the plant will look unkempt and unattractive with long branches sticking out without pruning them.
 
For my part I would prune the long branches to be more in line with the general shape of the plant. Yes, you will loose whatever bloom would occur on those branches, but pruning them will actually encourage branching and make a better looking plant in the future. You will probably not even miss the bloom on the pruned branches. The pruning will not otherwise harm the plants. 
 
Tom Schuetz
schuetz101@...
Mechanicsburg, PA   USDA Zone 6a
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: [AZ] Re: pruning question

Anybody there? I never received a reply....

On 8/29/07, Garry Potts <gp@pottsprod.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am a rank amateur gardener living in Dallas, Texas. I planted dwarf
> Encore azaleas two years ago, and they have done very well so far. We
> had an enormous amount of rain last spring and early summer, and now
> we have numerous extremely tall branches (I believe farmers call them
> "sports" when they outrun the rest of the crop)...shooting up and
> making the plants look rather silly at the moment, like unkempt
> feathers on a fledgling bird.
>
> There is a natural temptation to prune some of them down, but your FAQ
> says, "pruning after mid-summer cuts off next year's bloom." Should I
> stick to that advice or might this situation be an exception?
>
> Many thanks for whatever suggestions you can provide. And let me know
> if a photo would help.
>
> Garry Potts
>
>
> O 214-871-0408
> C 214-850-8124
> F 214-871-0552
>
> 4645 Fairfax Ave.
> Dallas TX 75209
>
> www.pottsproductions.com
>

--
Garry Potts

Potts Productions
P.O. Box 190199
Dallas TX 75219

O 214-871-0408
C 214-850-8124
F 214-871-0552

4645 Fairfax Ave.
Dallas TX 75209

www.pottsproductions.com


#8663 From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 9:36 am
Subject: Posting with question on Pruning
azaleabill
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Dave, George, and Tom,

Gary Potts posted a question on pruning on Aug 29th to which you kindly
responded.  He posted a second note on September 6th indicating that he
had not heard anything.  My guess is that Gary is not a regular
participant on the Web list and as such it is necessary to include his
e-mail address in the responses or he won't get them.

Dave, George, and Tom --- you may want to send your responses a second
time, remembering to include Gary's e-mail address in the header.

Bill Miller
Bethesda, Maryland
www.theazaleaworks.com

#8664 From: "Sally/John Perkins" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 11:11 am
Subject: How to stop the rain.
sjperk5
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I remember chastising John for writing about how wonderful the rains have
been in our area. Well not that I believe in superstition, but the rainfall
began to slow down in August with less than an inch in the first 2 weeks and
then absolutely nothing the rest of the month.  So far in September zip,
nada, nothing. Just to show how spotty the rains have been, members south of
Boston who would not bring in cuttings because things were so dry in July
were insisting that August cuttings at the end of the month, which is a
notoriously poor time to take cuttings, now had good turgid leaves from the
abundant rains.

The soaker hoses are doing their job. John waters in the evening mostly when
he gets home mostly newly transplanted things but now we have to make the
circuit and hit everything.

How bad is it? Fire danger is high. A brush fire 15 miles northwest in
Merrimack,NH burned 8 inches into the soil.

The opposite of a raindance. We are hoping we get some of the "50% chance of
thunderstorm and showers" this weekend but at least it will be cloudy.

Sally Perkins, Salem, NH

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rhodo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
sjperk5
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:56 PM
To: rhodo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rhodo] Theory on Bud Set

...
Well this has been such a year for us. Unlike the last few years we
have not had a long rainy period in late May and all of June. In fact
most of our rain has been at night for most of this summer. Moreover we
have had very few cloudy days for New England. So light has been much
better than normal especially when compared to the last few years.

As far as rainfall, we unlike much of the country have had good
rainfall without having too much rain an anyone time. Now this is not
true for much of New England but has been the case for us.

,...

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#8665 From: "sjperk5" <sjperk5@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 11:46 am
Subject: Trial P4M Online Plant List
sjperk5
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Here is a link to a trial ARS Mass Chapter P4M Online Plant List
containing the plants we have had donated since the P4M program
started.

http://tinyurl.com/376d5c

You can sort by clicking on the headers. There is also a search
mechansim.

Note: This is merely an experiment so the database may not be
available online long term. However, the data reflected is straight
out of our records so is real.

John Perkins
Salem, NH

#8666 From: "Will Ferrell" <bearrun3@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 4:12 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] How to stop the rain.
algernon_27265
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We’ve had 0.3” of rain in the last 6 weeks & it was dry before that.  The mature trees have dropped so many leaves that about 40% of the canopy is gone.  We’ve had a lot of 100 degree days & low 90’s are persisting even now in Sept.  As I go by R.’Cecile’, she seems to say to me “A couple more days of this & you can kiss me good-bye.”  It is proving a mighty hard year to be an ericaceous gardener in central NC.

 

Will 7a

 


From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sally/John Perkins
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:11 AM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AZ] How to stop the rain.

 

I remember chastising John for writing about how wonderful the rains have
been in our area. Well not that I believe in superstition, but the rainfall
began to slow down in August with less than an inch in the first 2 weeks and
then absolutely nothing the rest of the month. So far in September zip,
nada, nothing. Just to show how spotty the rains have been, members south of
Boston who would not bring in cuttings because things were so dry in July
were insisting that August cuttings at the end of the month, which is a
notoriously poor time to take cuttings, now had good turgid leaves from the
abundant rains.

The soaker hoses are doing their job. John waters in the evening mostly when
he gets home mostly newly transplanted things but now we have to make the
circuit and hit everything.

How bad is it? Fire danger is high. A brush fire 15 miles northwest in
Merrimack,NH burned 8 inches into the soil.

The opposite of a raindance. We are hoping we get some of the "50% chance of
thunderstorm and showers" this weekend but at least it will be cloudy.

Sally Perkins, Salem, NH

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rhodo@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
sjperk5
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 5:56 PM
To: rhodo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rhodo] Theory on Bud Set

...
Well this has been such a year for us. Unlike the last few years we
have not had a long rainy period in late May and all of June. In fact
most of our rain has been at night for most of this summer. Moreover we
have had very few cloudy days for New England. So light has been much
better than normal especially when compared to the last few years.

As far as rainfall, we unlike much of the country have had good
rainfall without having too much rain an anyone time. Now this is not
true for much of New England but has been the case for us.

,...

John Perkins
Salem, NH


#8667 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 4:50 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] How to stop the rain - or Start it
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Will Ferrell, et al:
Except for Beaufort and Jasper counties in SC, the
entire state has been declared to be in a Severe
drought condition by the State DNR, where I used to
work.  I haven't lost anything major yet (one recently
planted Chinzan), but the bud set on my native azaleas
is not up to normal, and I can still see April frost
damage on many shrubs and trees.  I did see a roadside
grove of persimmon in the heaviest fruit I have ever
seen.  I may have to pick up some trash in that area
later.  Did central North Carolna also experience the
early April 2007 freeze that most of South Carolina
did?  The freeze, later winds and finally drought
created a triple whammy on plants. Only a hurricane or
three can help us now.
Mike Creel, SC

--- Will Ferrell <bearrun3@...> wrote:

> We've had 0.3" of rain in the last 6 weeks & it was
> dry before that.  The
> mature trees have dropped so many leaves that about
> 40% of the canopy is
> gone.  We've had a lot of 100 degree days & low 90's
> are persisting even now
> in Sept.  As I go by R.'Cecile', she seems to say to
> me "A couple more days
> of this & you can kiss me good-bye."  It is proving
> a mighty hard year to be
> an ericaceous gardener in central NC.
>
> Will 7a
>

#8668 From: "Will Ferrell" <bearrun3@...>
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 6:19 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] How to stop the rain - or Start it
algernon_27265
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Yes, Mike, we did get that freeze.  Several evergreen azaleas were killed by total bark stripping, especially the ones I had trained into a tree form.  Also lost a Japanese maple & possibly a couple of other things to it.  It’s like Nature has it in for us in ’07.  I guess I should just be glad I’m not earning my livelihood farming or in the nursery business.

 

This isn’t the 1st Sept, I find myself in the pathetic situation of wishing a hurricane would come this way.

 

Will

 


From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Creel
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:50 PM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZ] How to stop the rain - or Start it

 

Will Ferrell, et al:
Except for Beaufort and Jasper counties in SC, the
entire state has been declared to be in a Severe
drought condition by the State DNR, where I used to
work. I haven't lost anything major yet (one recently
planted Chinzan), but the bud set on my native azaleas
is not up to normal, and I can still see April frost
damage on many shrubs and trees. I did see a roadside
grove of persimmon in the heaviest fruit I have ever
seen. I may have to pick up some trash in that area
later. Did central North Carolna also experience the
early April 2007 freeze that most of South Carolina
did? The freeze, later winds and finally drought
created a triple whammy on plants. Only a hurricane or
three can help us now.
Mike Creel, SC

--- Will Ferrell <bearrun3@triad.rr.com> wrote:

> We've had 0.3" of rain in the last 6 weeks & it was
> dry before that. The
> mature trees have dropped so many leaves that about
> 40% of the canopy is
> gone. We've had a lot of 100 degree days & low 90's
> are persisting even now
> in Sept. As I go by R.'Cecile', she seems to say to
> me "A couple more days
> of this & you can kiss me good-bye." It is proving
> a mighty hard year to be
> an ericaceous gardener in central NC.
>
> Will 7a
>


#8669 From: Tadeusz Dauksza <iltkyao@...>
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 1:13 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Who was ---- Arthur E. Radcliffe?
iltkyao
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Bill;
 
 The only information I was able to gather so far is the article in the ARS Bulletin that he wrote  titled " Comments on Azaleas .thier kinds  and origin" 
 
 it looks like it's in the yaer 1963 issue 4 , page 242, unfortunetly I don't have that particular's years copy, maybe some old timers who carry both hats ARS/ASA  have that page and can scan it for you.
 
Tadeusz- Illinois--

"William C. Miller III" <bill@...> wrote:
I don't think very many people are going to be able to answer his
question.

But, there may be an old timer or two who can answer the question ---
"Who was Arthur E. Radcliffe?"

Bill Miller
Bethesda, Maryland
www.theazaleaworks.com



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#8670 From: jpbruso@...
Date: Fri Sep 7, 2007 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Who was ---- Arthur E. Radcliffe?
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I have that journal and article.  It doesn't say anything about the person, except that he is from Pinehurst, NC.
The article is an overview of the different types of azaleas:  Kurumes, Pericats, Gable, Glendales, Satsukis, Exbury, & Knaphill.
 
Joe Bruso, Hopkinton, MA
 
In a message dated 9/7/2007 9:14:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, iltkyao@... writes:

Bill;
 
 The only information I was able to gather so far is the article in the ARS Bulletin that he wrote  titled " Comments on Azaleas .thier kinds  and origin" 
 
 it looks like it's in the yaer 1963 issue 4 , page 242, unfortunetly I don't have that particular's years copy, maybe some old timers who carry both hats ARS/ASA  have that page and can scan it for you.
 
Tadeusz- Illinois--
 




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#8671 From: "William C. Miller III" <bill@...>
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 1:40 am
Subject: Re: [AZ] Who was ---- Arthur E. Radcliffe?
azaleabill
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Tad and Joe,

Thanks for information and especially the effort.  I have the article and it lacks any biographical information.

Bill

jpbruso@... wrote:

I have that journal and article.  It doesn't say anything about the person, except that he is from Pinehurst, NC.
The article is an overview of the different types of azaleas:  Kurumes, Pericats, Gable, Glendales, Satsukis, Exbury, & Knaphill.
 
Joe Bruso, Hopkinton, MA
 
In a message dated 9/7/2007 9:14:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, iltkyao@yahoo.com writes:

Bill;
 
 The only information I was able to gather so far is the article in the ARS Bulletin that he wrote  titled " Comments on Azaleas .thier kinds  and origin" 
 
 it looks like it's in the yaer 1963 issue 4 , page 242, unfortunetly I don't have that particular's years copy, maybe some old timers who carry both hats ARS/ASA  have that page and can scan it for you.
 
Tadeusz- Illinois--
 




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#8672 From: "The Mullen's" <Mullen118@...>
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 1:44 pm
Subject: help
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My Azaleas are struggling. The leaves are all covered with a lite colored (it looks like dust) substance. They bloomed and did fine through Spring but after the bloom they changed. I live just south of Pittsburgh, Pa. and the plants did fine last winter. What can I do?

#8673 From: "Tom Schuetz" <schuetz101@...>
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 5:48 pm
Subject: Fw: [AZ] help
mulchall
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The first question I must ask is whether these are deciduous  or evergreen azaleas?
 
If the top of the leaf on an evergreen azalea has tan spots and the bottom has black spots and on close inspection you can observe a small insect with clear wings, which have darker veins, you have lace bug. This insect thrives in heat and stays on the bottom of the leaf sucking the juice and chlorophyll from within the leaf, leaving the tan appearing spots. Let me know if that is your situation. If it is, they can be controlled with a systemic insecticide. I do not know which ones may be available in your area. They are hard to control with contact insecticides because they stay on the leaf bottom, which helps protect them from predators. The damage will decrease as the weather cools. What damage has been done cannot be reversed. but the leaves will go through a regeneration cycle next spring. 
 
If the plants are deciduous, what you describe sounds like powdery mildew, a bluish white powdery covering on the leaves.
 
What is your case?
 
Tom Schuetz
schuetz101@...
Mechanicsburg, PA   USDA Zone 6a
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Subject: [AZ] help

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My Azaleas are struggling. The leaves are all covered with a lite
colored (it looks like dust) substance. They bloomed and did fine
through Spring but after the bloom they changed. I live just south
 of Pittsburgh, Pa. and the plants did fine last winter. What can I do?


#8674 From: "j may" <mayejoanne@...>
Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 9:19 pm
Subject: Judge Solomons do not bloom
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I have about fifty Judge Solomon azaleas planted under trees.  They are about four years old and have yet to bloom!  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  I am in Columbia, South Carolina.

#8675 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Sun Sep 9, 2007 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Judge Solomons do not bloom
mikeacreel
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Joanne, my wife and I live in Lexington,SC, (so not
too far from you).  I would say that if your azaleas
have been growing healthily (sufficient water and
fertility) and not pruned late in the season (which
would prune of coming season bloom buds), they are not
blooming due to too much shade.  My many azaleas are
mostly under the tall shade provided by mature pine
trees and bloom fine.  I would be happy to look at
your plants and site.  We are in the Lexington, SC
phone book.  (803) 359-2717
Mike Creel, Lexington, South Carolina

--- j may <mayejoanne@...> wrote:

> I have about fifty Judge Solomon azaleas planted
> under trees.  They are
> about four years old and have yet to bloom!  Any
> advice would be greatly
> appreciated.  I am in Columbia, South Carolina.
>

#8676 From: "George Klump" <mixturev@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:30 am
Subject: Judge Solomons do not bloom
mixturev@...
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9 September 2007
 
I May,
 
'Judge Solomon' is a sport of 'Southern Charm' which itself is a sport of 'Formosa' which plant is a sport of R. Coccinea.   Therefore it belongs to the "Southern Indica" group of azaleas which need sunlight in order to bloom.  If you have them in too much shade, they will, of course, put on leaves, but flowers will not form so readily.  The problem with 'Judge Solomon', as with 'Southern Charm', is that it is a watermelon pink, almost a salmon pink in some cases and they have large leaves (like 'Formosa' has) and have a tendency to spread.  There's nothing wrong with this so long as they are protected from too much sun, since that particular color tends to fade in too much sun, at least out here it does.  So I would suggest that you either trim your trees so that the azaleas get more sun or else transplant them to a sunnier location which, with 50 of them, might be a fairly daunting task.  That's one consideration.
 
Another would be to wait until after your average last freeze time and, then, dump a high phosphorous fertilizer around the root zone of each plant.  Usually the soil there is acidic enough, but it may not have quite enough phosphorous to promote the buds, especially if they're competing with trees.  Trees will compete with plants for water and nutrients, if their roots happen to move in the right direction. 
 
George Klump
Southern California Chapter
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: j may
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: [AZ] Judge Solomons do not bloom

I have about fifty Judge Solomon azaleas planted under trees.  They are about four years old and have yet to bloom!  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.  I am in Columbia, South Carolina.


#8677 From: "Red Cavender" <red@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: How to stop the rain.
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I will worry about that come December - March. Meanwhile we have had NO rain since mid August. The past 3 days have been mid 80's F and the next 2 will be mid 90's F. East wind blowing 15 - 20 MPH and humidity in the 15 - 20 % range. We may not get any significant rain until possibly mid October. Since mid June we have had about 1.3 inches scattered over several days. That's why I have an irrigation system.
 
Dick 'Red' Cavender, Rainy Oregon zone 8

#8678 From: "Harold Greer" <hgreer@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:03 am
Subject: RE: [AZ] Re: How to stop the rain.
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And the lack of rain is why the Northwest is so nice in the summer.  None of those hot muggy, high humidity days!  And since if you live in the right places you can have wells fed by mountain snow that melts slowly over summer we so can water all we need.

 

Yes, we have many gray days in winter, but little rain really.  The average rain fall per year in our location is about 40” a year and if we get 1” in 24 hours that is a real “gully washer”!  It happens very seldom that we get that much.  In our wettest month (January), we get about 6”.  We once got 12” in a month and that has never been forgotten!  You can go outside with only a light jacket all year.

 

We invite you to come to the Northwest and visit, but know that only “round trip” tickets are offered from other parts of the country to the Northwest.  We welcome your visit!

 

Seriously, few people in other parts of the country realize how great the climate is here!  Thank goodness, or we would have the population of New York!

 

Harold Greer

 


From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Red Cavender
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:59 AM
To: Azalea Group
Subject: [AZ] Re: How to stop the rain.

 

I will worry about that come December - March. Meanwhile we have had NO rain since mid August. The past 3 days have been mid 80's F and the next 2 will be mid 90's F. East wind blowing 15 - 20 MPH and humidity in the 15 - 20 % range. We may not get any significant rain until possibly mid October. Since mid June we have had about 1.3 inches scattered over several days. That's why I have an irrigation system.

 

Dick 'Red' Cavender, Rainy Oregon zone 8


#8679 From: "S. M. Henning" <rhodyman@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: How to stop the rain.
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Dick 'Red' Cavender, Rainy Oregon wrote:

>I will worry about that come December - March. Meanwhile we have had
>NO rain since mid August. The past 3 days have been mid 80's F and
>the next 2 will be mid 90's F. East wind blowing 15 - 20 MPH and
>humidity in the 15 - 20 % range. We may not get any significant rain
>until possibly mid October. Since mid June we have had about 1.3
>inches scattered over several days. That's why I have an irrigation
>system.

Hi Red,

I grew up in Portland, Oregon, and then moved to Pennsylvania.  When
I got here, I couldn't believe the attitude; if it didn't rain for a
couple weeks it was a drought.  I eventually found out why; they
don't irrigate here unless they have a nursery and even some of
nurserymen don't irrigate.  We typically get three quarters of an
inch of rain every week of the year.  We get more rain than rainy
Oregon or rainy Washington.  We don't have anything resembling your
Mediterranean climate.  Our summers are typically hot and wet.  Good
for Phytophthora.  However, in the winter we get a lot more days of
sun than you do.  Good for winter burn.

In the West they find the water and then they farm.  Here we farm and
then if it doesn't rain we yell drought and ask for the government to
bail us out.  It works both places, just works differently.
--

Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA   USA

    http://rhodyman.net

#8680 From: Mike Creel <mikeacreel@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: [AZ] Judge Solomons do not bloom
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George, another excellent reply.  I forwarded your
message to Joanne Maye in Columbia, SC since her
address was not include in your original email.  She
wrote me back saying that she thought shade was the
problem and that tree trimming is planned.
Mike Creel, SC

--- George Klump <mixturev@...> wrote:
> 9 September 2007
> I May,
>
> 'Judge Solomon' is a sport of 'Southern Charm' which
> itself is a sport of 'Formosa' which plant is a
> sport of R. Coccinea.   Therefore it belongs to the
> "Southern Indica" group of azaleas which need
> sunlight in order to bloom.  If you have them in too
> much shade, they will, of course, put on leaves, but
> flowers will not form so readily.  The problem with
> 'Judge Solomon', as with 'Southern Charm', is that
> it is a watermelon pink, almost a salmon pink in
> some cases and they have large leaves (like
> 'Formosa' has) and have a tendency to spread.
> There's nothing wrong with this so long as they are
> protected from too much sun, since that particular
> color tends to fade in too much sun, at least out
> here it does.  So I would suggest that you either
> trim your trees so that the azaleas get more sun or
> else transplant them to a sunnier location which,
> with 50 of them, might be a fairly daunting task.
> That's one consideration.
>
> Another would be to wait until after your average
> last freeze time and, then, dump a high phosphorous
> fertilizer around the root zone of each plant.
> Usually the soil there is acidic enough, but it may
> not have quite enough phosphorous to promote the
> buds, especially if they're competing with trees.
> Trees will compete with plants for water and
> nutrients, if their roots happen to move in the
> right direction.
>
> George Klump
> Southern California Chapter
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: j may
>   To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 2:19 PM
>   Subject: [AZ] Judge Solomons do not bloom
>
>
>   I have about fifty Judge Solomon azaleas planted
> under trees.  They are about four years old and have
> yet to bloom!  Any advice would be greatly
> appreciated.  I am in Columbia, South Carolina.
>
>
>

#8681 From: "P Susan Busby" <s1061@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:20 pm
Subject: cut back azaleas
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(this is from ASK US page, so please send me a CC)
 
I live in Columbia, SC (zone 8) and have many overgrown azaleas that were not trimmed/cut back after the blooming season this year.  Is there a safe time for me to cut them back this Fall or Winter?
 
 
 
When the heart is right the feet are swift.
                                      Thomas Jefferson

#8682 From: "Will Ferrell" <bearrun3@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:24 pm
Subject: RE: [AZ] cut back azaleas
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Dear fellow Jeffersonian,

          It would be optimal if you could wait & do your pruning immediately after next spring’s blooming.

 

Will in NC

 


From: azaleas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of P Susan Busby
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:21 AM
To: azaleas@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AZ] cut back azaleas

 

(this is from ASK US page, so please send me a CC)

 

I live in Columbia, SC (zone 8) and have many overgrown azaleas that were not trimmed/cut back after the blooming season this year.  Is there a safe time for me to cut them back this Fall or Winter?

 

 

 

When the heart is right the feet are swift.
                                      Thomas Jefferson


#8683 From: "George Klump" <mixturev@...>
Date: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:43 pm
Subject: [AZ] cut back azaleas
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10 September 2007
 
Susan,
 
Do not cut your azaleas now, since this will remove all chance of flowers for next year.  Let them be as they are for now.  When they bloom next year, trim them back right after they have finished flowering.  New growth this year contains the flowers for next year.  If you do not care about the flowers for next year, then, you can go ahead and trim them now.  However, personally, I would wait until after they've bloomed next season.
 
George Klump
Southern California Chapter
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: [AZ] cut back azaleas

(this is from ASK US page, so please send me a CC)
 
I live in Columbia, SC (zone 8) and have many overgrown azaleas that were not trimmed/cut back after the blooming season this year.  Is there a safe time for me to cut them back this Fall or Winter?
 
 
 
When the heart is right the feet are swift.
                                      Thomas Jefferson


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