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Re: [bafuture] Sleep (was Creativity research...

Hey Kevin,

About what you said of Telsa. I haven't read the story but this is the
situation.

the serotoninic system is more complex than we know
most often than not you sleep normally
people who can sleep an hour a day, have influences during that day
that made it possible
sadness, depression, hunger, how much we ate, day dreaming, our
calmless level, et all ad infinim can affect that day can change what
will happen
we can be dead tired at 2am. something can liven us up, and we won't be
tired or sleep until the next evening at the normal hour.
some can regulate it and do it all the time
dreams, inspiration, depression, a new understand of the world, ... can
awaken us and sometimes last for months.

and on and on.

I know cuz I've experienced all these things.

Berlioz when he discovered shakespeare could barely sleep for 2 weeks,
had to go for walks to exhaust himself and would fall asleep at a cafe,
or random place. many people have done such things.

Ever was hungry, waited a while, then the hunger went away?

Walking on hot coals? Yogi's sitting in the snow and not feeling
cold? Buddhist enlightenment. Tandra.

Everything is related to everything else - the inventor of hypervcard

Serotonin. maybe other neurotransmitters. maybe undiscovered ones? I
don't know enough to say. Are we done it's just a matter of time of
understanding their reaction?

will the genome project answer all these questions? Hell no. It'll
give us the insight so we eventually will realize there are many more
factors involved than just genes.

Ever hear of Richard Lewontin?

Gary

ov 16, 2003 um 12:33 PM schrieb Kevin Keck:

> --- wayne radinsky <spodware@...> wrote:
>>
>>> I briefly looked at the article. Curious, ever
>> think about
>>> why Piccaso, Einstein, and other geniuses often
>> didn't
>>> sleep much or could sometimes probably skip a day
>> or two?
>>
>> No, I never thought about that. That could be
>> because I
>> didn't know that. I've heard Thomas Edison slept in
>> short
>> increments during the day or night, rather than
>> sleeping 8
>> hours at night. Is this common amoung geniuses? Or
>> are there
>> lots of geniuses who have normal sleep?
>
> I know Nicola Tesla claimed to only need an hour or so
> of sleep each night, but was reportedly frequently
> found napping at the lab bench. Yoshiro Nakamatsu, who
> invented "the floppy disk" in 1952 [1], is also rather
> preoccupied with minimizing time wasted sleeping, and
> claims to have perfected a chair (the "Cerebrex")
> which allows him to get 8 hours' sleep in just one
> hour's time. Michelangelo is also reported to have
> slept minimally when absorbed in his work [2].
>
> [1] http://www.japaninc.net/print.php?articleID=653
> [2] http://shorterlink.com/?LOC3IE
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... I know Nicola Tesla claimed to only need an hour or so of sleep each night, but was reportedly frequently found napping at the lab bench. Yoshiro...
Kevin Keck
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Hey Kevin, About what you said of Telsa. I haven't read the story but this is the situation. the serotoninic system is more complex than we know most often...
Gary Yuen
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Nov 16, 2003
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... Yes, and there is biological costs to this me thinks. Shortened lifespan or health problems perhaps?: Edison 1847-1931 = 86 Franklin 1706 - 1790 = 84 Tesla...
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... Who do you consider a genius? Is Tim Berners-Lee a genius? Does he sleep normally? What about Bill Gates, arguably the smartest person in the world? He's...
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Hi Wayne, very much. a lack of sleep has some association with genius but they do not necessarily go together. We understand little about our serotonin systems...
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I've been thinking a bit more about this question. What objectively is a "genius"? If the reason intelligence evolved is because it increases genetic fitness...
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there is no such thing as genetic fitness. The fad of believing everything is evolutionary will pass. Perhaps not for many decades but it will pass. ...
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... I think you need to differentiate between "computational genius" and "acts of genius". A computational genius is generally possessing mental capabilities...
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As soon as I sent this message last night, I thought to myself, "Self, I bet Michelle is going to say that conscious desire to maximize inclusive genetic...
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hey wayne, good questions. why don't we have even more forms of intellgence? ethical intelligence? social awareness? a few thousand years ago there were many...
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... There is only one kind of intelligence, the generic kind. There are universal definitions for this, and anything that falls outside this is not ...
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Hey J ever wonder why IQ starts to stabalize at the age of 4 and what happens before then? And for some, their intelligence growth is abnormal and continues to...
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... With all due respect, the above is barely coherent. Some of it is based on very questionable assumptions, some of these are not "questions" to which no ...
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... I tend to agree, but this is still controversial and deservedly so. What makes you such a big authority? I think these questions need to be resolved...
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... Genetic fitness is independent of the resources availed to it. Does Bill Gates want to maximize his children's wealth or his children's ability to *create*...
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Over a week ago (I'm a slow poster, sorry!) J. Andrew ... Actually, the point I was trying to make, perhaps I did not express this clearly, was not that Bill...
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Why should a person have more children than average? Surely it is an individual choice whether a person wants to try to do that. Just because it is in the...
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... The "alpha male" behaviors are pervasive in the species. I would swear that the majority of everything the average male does is directly or indirectly ...
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... I think the attempts to conceptualize "emotional intelligence" etc. are really attempts to combat the widespread idea that IQ tests, academic skills, or...
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... I agree with your general assertion here, but it isn't constructive to add a new layer of nonsense on top of an existing layer of nonsense. It doesn't ...
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It looks like you're defining intelligence in terms of the complexity of response. How does your formulation distinguish between an adaptive pattern of...
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... No, definitely incorrect. - Per mathematics, the limit of intelligence one can infer from a behavior or pattern is the Kolmogorov complexity of the pattern...
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Yea...but that's not a "Smart" reason no matter how you boil it. I'm willing to bet the "spin-doctor" who wrote that, got drunk the night before and was in...
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I'm not sure what part you're referring to as having been written by a spin doctor, but I don't think anyone is claiming that what happened yesterday was...
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