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Re: Alb. sfilit

--- In balkanika@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> --- In balkanika@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> <alexandru_mg3@> wrote:
> >
> > In Romanian we have 'sfrijit' 'weak, without power'
> > and the related verb is 'a sfriji' 'to loose the power , to
become
> > weak'
> >
> > Alb. sfilis <-> Rom sfriji ???
> > would be
> > PAlb spilic^a <-> Dacian? spilig^a (> *filig^a > *s-firig^a >
> > *sfrig^a > *sfriji)
> >
> > if so the (new) s- was restore by analogy 'recently' (after s>sh
> in
> > Albanian)
>
> Extended meaning 'exhausted, worn-out' is present also in adjective
> i sfilitun/i sfilitur.
> Alb sfilis vs Rom sfriji: seems to be as well cognates, but with
> doubtful phonetism. If l > r / V_V, then primary form should be
> *sfili: with weakening and lost of first /i/ due to the accent in
> last syllable with compensatory lengthening of dropped /s/.
>
> Primary meaning, to my view, was 'to splice, split' (see OE splint,
> Norw splindra 'splinter'; MDutch splitten 'to split' (Pokorny (s)
> plei- 1000.)
> I think that this root denotes the taming and sacrificing of wild
> animals in PIE society.
>
> >
> > The Romanian verb is marked UNKNOWN in DEX.
> >
> > Marius
>


Meanwhile I found that Romanian sfriji is more related to Albanian
filiz Abdullah, what is the proposed etimology of Albanian filiz?

Thanks,
Marius




Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:25 pm

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It. sfila 'slip' > Alb. sfilit 'cause suffering, torture, harass' Is this right ? Alvin...
Alvin Ekmekciu
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Jan 24, 2007
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... ************ Alb verb sfilis 'to make suffer, inflict pain: torment, torture' seems to be prefixal derivative of bound morpheme -filis (s- as intensive...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jan 24, 2007
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... of ... to ... In Romanian we have 'sfrijit' 'weak, without power' and the related verb is 'a sfriji' 'to loose the power , to become weak' Alb. sfilis...
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Jan 26, 2007
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... in ... Extended meaning 'exhausted, worn-out' is present also in adjective i sfilitun/i sfilitur. Alb sfilis vs Rom sfriji: seems to be as well cognates,...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jan 26, 2007
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... become ... Meanwhile I found that Romanian sfriji is more related to Albanian filiz Abdullah, what is the proposed etimology of Albanian filiz? Thanks, ...
alexandru_mg3
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Jan 27, 2007
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... s>sh ... adjective ... in ... splint, ... wild ... ************ As far as I know, Alb filiz 'offspring' is a Turkish loan. Konushevci...
Abdullah Konushevci
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Jan 27, 2007
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... I am not ignoring anything. Though I'm not taking part in discussions, I am following them. Alvin...
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