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Re: rhomphaia

--- In balkanika@yahoogroups.com, "Dada Mamusa" <dada_mamusa@...> wrote:
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> Etymology rhomphaia term which, according to ancient authors, means a great
sword of thracian is put in link with Latin rumpere * "break", "to break: which
in translation approximately could designate as rhomphaia as one who breaks
[break]
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> dada
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> ps. sorry for my english
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> www.enciclopedia-dacica.ro
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There are just a few roots concerning the IE weapons, like:

1. *gWeru 'spear' or 'spit' in Celtic (OIr biur0 and Italic (Lat veru), but
'staff' in Iranian (Av grava-);

2.*k'uhxlos 'spear, spit': Arm slak' 'pike, spear, dagger, arrow'; MPers swl'ck
'grill', Skt šu:la - 'pike, spit, javelin';

3. *k'el(hx)- 'spear, point': ON hali 'point of shaft, tail', OPrus kelian
'spear', Alb thel 'big nail, spike'; Grk ke:la 'arrowshafts', Skt šalya- 'spear,
arrowhead';

4. g'hais-os-s 'throwing spear': Gr khaisos 'herdsman's staff', OIr gae 'spear',
OE ga:r 'spear', NE garlic, Skt hes.as- 'missle';

5. *we:ben 'cutting weapon, knife': NE weapon, Toch AB yepe 'weapon, knife;

6. *H2/H3n.sis 'large (offensive) knife': Lat e:nsis, Av ahu:-, Skt asi-
'sword', Palaic hasira- 'dagger'.

7. *k'os-trom/dhrom: Lat castro: 'I prune', Alb thadër 'adze', Skt šastra-
'knife, dagger', probably independent creation of *k'es- 'to cut'.

8. spelo/eHa 'shield': MPers ispar 'shield', Skt phalakam 'shield, board', ON
fjol 'board' and possibly Luvian palahsa- 'blanket, coat' etc.

An Old Norse-Thracian isogloss attests a *skolmeHa - 'sword': ON skolm, Thrac
ska:lme:.

I doubt could the Thracian rhompaia be connected by Alb rrum 'stalk, ramrod'
with further developed meaning rrumcall 'to cut'.

Konushevci




Thu Apr 2, 2009 7:39 pm

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Good day, I am passionate about ancient weapons, especially the Thracian and Dacian ones and I joined this group hoping that we could have an useful exchange...
Dada Mamusa
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... Hi Dada Mamusa, this group has for long time no activity anymore and when here was one, we discussed more linguistic aspects. Yet, you are wellcome and I...
Alexandru Moeller
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Yes, we discuss more on the etymology of the words here... Could you indicate me where the Thracian rhomphaia is attested on the ancient texts, arheological...
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Apr 1, 2009
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... so far I am informed, Thomacheck does not comment too much about this word but it remember it when he is writting about Rumbodona in his "Die Alten...
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Etymology rhomphaia term which, according to ancient authors, means a great sword of thracian is put in link with Latin rumpere * "break", "to break: which in...
Dada Mamusa
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Apr 2, 2009
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... ************ There are just a few roots concerning the IE weapons, like: 1. *gWeru 'spear' or 'spit' in Celtic (OIr biur0 and Italic (Lat veru), but...
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