To Dr.A.D.Karve,
Thanks for the offer, I am very interested in developing bamboo for
rural applications.regards, Lynda Miller

"A.D. Karve" wrote:

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>   Dear bamboo planters,I am the president of an organization called
> Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI). We develop technologies
> aimed at improving the quality of life and income of rural
> inhabitants.  One of the areas that we have been looking at is
> bamboo.  Growing bamboo and selling the poles as timber is highly
> remunerative. After a gestation period of about 6 to 7 years, a bamboo
> plantation yields annually 25000 mature poles per ha, having a market
> value of  US$10 000 at the farm site. If the bamboo is freshly
> harvested, it can very easily be impregnated with an aqueous solution
> containing 40 g sodium dichromate, 30 g copper sulphate and 15g boric
> acid per liter. A manually operated insecticide spray pump can create
> the pressure necessary for impregnation. This is a new technology and
> not yet well known, but we feel that the customers may prefer treated
> poles, if they become available. Because the biodegradation of bamboo
> is retarded by this treatment, such treated bamboo can be used in all
> kinds of outdoor constructions, such as fencing, scaffolding for
> vines, greenhouses etc. We have also constructed water tanks out of
> bamboo.  A plinth is constructed on the ground with cement and bricks.
> Chemically treated bamboo poles are erected, about 15 cm apart, along
> the periphery of the plinth to create a palisade of bamboo.  The
> intervening space is woven with a wickerwork of bamboo, so that the
> entire structure looks like a giant basket, or alternatively, a
> galvanized iron sheet can be placed inside the palisade.  When fitted
> with an inset of polythene film, it can be used as a low cost water
> tank. If the height of the tank is 100 to 120 cm, the tank is filled
> just by the natural rainfall received in a typical monsoon season.
> Once filled, the tank is covered with a black, opaque plastic film, so
> that the water remains clean.  This water can be used as drinking
> water throughout the year.  A tank having a diameter of 5 m and a
> height of 120 cm would store more that 23 000 liters of water, which
> can provide a family with daily 80 to 100 l of water from the end of
> ne rainy season to the beginning of the next. Recently we have started
> programme of developing human powered bamboo carts (wheelbarro,
> trailer for a bicycle, pushcart for street vendors etc.  The carts
> have a frame of bamboo mounted on bicycle wheels. We have also many
> other technologies, in rural energy, agriculture, use of agrowaste,
> plant nursery business irrigation techniques, low cost greenhouse
> techniques etc.  If anybody is interested, we can send a short
> description.YoursDr.A.D.Karve

A.D.Karve,   Greetings...........About your mix to (cure?) bamboo.  What
testing has been done on termite and powderpost beetles?  What country,
State is represented in your report?  How about the details of procedure
with a  hand  pump.Are the nodes ruptured so the chemical can flow
through ?  Doubt spraying the outside would penetrate.............Garold
Nelson

----- Original Message -----

From: A.D. Karve

To: bamboo-plantations@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:59 PM

Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Introducing ARTI

 

  Dear bamboo planters,

I am the president of an organization called Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI). We develop technologies aimed at improving the quality of life and income of rural inhabitants.  One of the areas that we have been looking at is bamboo.  Growing bamboo and selling the poles as timber is highly remunerative. After a gestation period of about 6 to 7 years, a bamboo plantation yields annually 25000 mature poles per ha, having a market value of  US$10 000 at the farm site. If the bamboo is freshly harvested, it can very easily be impregnated with an aqueous solution containing 40 g sodium dichromate, 30 g copper sulphate and 15g boric acid per liter. A manually operated insecticide spray pump can create the pressure necessary for impregnation. This is a new technology and not yet well known, but we feel that the customers may prefer treated poles, if they become available. Because the biodegradation of bamboo is retarded by this treatment, such treated bamboo can be used in all kinds of outdoor constructions, such as fencing, scaffolding for vines, greenhouses etc. We have also constructed water tanks out of bamboo.  A plinth is constructed on the ground with cement and bricks. Chemically treated bamboo poles are erected, about 15 cm apart, along the periphery of the plinth to create a palisade of bamboo.  The intervening space is woven with a wickerwork of bamboo, so that the entire structure looks like a giant basket, or alternatively, a galvanized iron sheet can be placed inside the palisade.  When fitted with an inset of polythene film, it can be used as a low cost water tank. If the height of the tank is 100 to 120 cm, the tank is filled just by the natural rainfall received in a typical monsoon season.  Once filled, the tank is covered with a black, opaque plastic film, so that the water remains clean.  This water can be used as drinking water throughout the year.  A tank having a diameter of 5 m and a height of 120 cm would store more that 23 000 liters of water, which can provide a family with daily 80 to 100 l of water from the end of ne rainy season to the beginning of the next. Recently we have started programme of developing human powered bamboo carts (wheelbarro, trailer for a bicycle, pushcart for street vendors etc.  The carts have a frame of bamboo mounted on bicycle wheels. We have also many other technologies, in rural energy, agriculture, use of agrowaste,  plant nursery business irrigation techniques, low cost greenhouse techniques etc.  If anybody is interested, we can send a short description.

Yours

Dr.A.D.Karve

--- In bamboo-plantations@egroups.com, "A.D. Karve" <adkarve@p...>
wrote:
>
>   Growing bamboo and selling the poles as timber is highly
remunerative. After a gestation period of about 6 to 7 years, a
bamboo plantation yields annually 25000 mature poles per ha, having a
market value of  US$10 000 at the farm site.

Dear Dr. Karve,
This is very interesting information and your results are truly
spectacular. What species are planted? (Dendrocalamus strictus?)
Where are the plantations located?  What is the net return per
hectare per year?
awaiting your reply,
kind regards,
Victor

+++++++++++++++
Dr. V. Brias
brias@...

If anybody is interested, we can send a short description.
I am interested
I would like to include the description it in the paperwork to present
other issues in the bamboo world. I will be distrubuting the workbook at
bamboofest

  http://www3.cs.cornell.edu/bamboo/fest.htm

Well I am not a plantation but a few pictures from my garden on Long
Island NYare in
  todays New York Times. In the Sunday styles section page 8. It also
anounces a
  Bamboofest at Horticultural Society of NY on September 15 to 17... Has
a
  positive spin on bamboo use....
   http://www3.cs.cornell.edu/bamboo/fest.htm

  koikeeper

What is the best time of year to transplant Bamboo, how well is Bamboo
adaptive to zone 6a climate?     The lows temps are  -15 to -20 degree and
highs temps is 95 to 105 degree..



Thank you Clifford England
England's Orchard and Nursery
316 S.R 2004
McKee, KY. 40447-9616     pH toll free 877 965 2228
Specializing in Exotic fruit and nut trees for alternative crops.
Planting the seeds (nut trees) for the future.
www.nuttrees.net
nuttrees@...

Many of the sub-tropical bamboos will grow in the S.E. U.S. depending on
where you are.  If temps don't drop below say 20F, you've got a great chance
of growing these bamboos.  They are clumpers and some of them can get very
large.  Most of the temperate clumpers(Fargesia being the most common
genius) won't take the heat in the S.E.  We ship many plants to this area.
Mostly retail sales, but many more nurseries are starting to carry bamboo.
Some of these plants(Bambusa) make wonderful interior bamboos and the market
is increasing rapidly in this area.  If the bamboo that you have in
Arundinaria amabilis(also called Pseudosasa amabilis) you may have a market
for those canes.  They are highly prized for their quality and strength.
Kerri Flemmons
The Bamboo Garden
Kerri@...
http://www.bamboogarden.com

----- Original Message -----
From: David Drexler <david@...>
To: Bamboo <bamboo-plantations@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:04 PM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Markets


>
> Can any one tell me about the markets of bamboo grown in the s.e. US.
> Not uses of, but the markets. Are there presently buyers, and where??
>
> Is bamboo considered invasive.    I have a plantation of pine and at one
> site is the old fish pole type bamboo.  It increases in size each year
> and is competitive with pines. Are there species of bamboo that is not
> invasive.
> Thanks
> david d
>
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>

David D. asked for information concerning U. S. markets for bamboo (not uses
of but markets).  The sad truth is that they are almost nonexistent.  Few
objects made of bamboo are made from bamboo grown in the U. S.  Bamboo is
cheaper elsewhere and labor is cheaper where the bamboo is.  The few U. S.
buyers of bamboo want to pay less than the true cost of growing it.

The commercial solution is to grow bamboo and make it into some innovative
product people wish to buy.  The growing of bamboo is relatively easy and
appeals to all of us.  Making it into products, advertising and peddling
these products, and being a good salesman are the real tests of a bamboo
farmer.

We grow 22,000 clumps of Dendrocalamus strictus and about 2,000 clumps of
Dendrocalamus giganteus on a plantation in the jungles of Yucatan.  We
replant cutover rain forest.  We have had to build 3 factories at the
plantation, we have trained 90 Mayan Indians to use expensive, sophisticated
machinery.  We now provide our Mayans with health insurance and retirement
benefits.  I spend every other month in the U. S. selling bamboo products.
My months at the plantation are primarily devoted to bamboo manufacture.
Originally, we intended only to grow bamboo.  The best marketing solution we
have found has been to work with entrepreneurs in the United States.  For
example, we furnish them sanded, stained bamboo culms, precut and predrilled
for them to assemble.  Or we furnish prefabricated gazebo sections, which
they sell and assemble.  This clearly is more profitable for them than
growing bamboo and it puts them in business immediately.  We'll do this for
anyone that wants to market bamboo.

If you want to grow bamboo, you are a man after my own heart.  The excitement
of watching thousands of bamboo culms shooting, the peace of listening to the
swish of green bamboo in the wind, the silence of walking on a carpet of
bamboo leaves beneath a green bamboo canopy, and many other joys of bamboo
are worth whatever it costs you.  I recommend bamboo growing as a beautiful
hobby that is a tonic for the soul.

Bob Gow
President
Yucatan Bamboo
Hacienda Xixim Bamboo Plantation

below 0 F.

Phil


Jade Mountain Bamboo Nursery
"We Specialize in Hardy Bamboos"
http://www.jademountainbamboo.com
Tel:  253.548.1129

----- Original Message -----
From: <PermacultureNo1@...>
To: <bamboo-plantations@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Hardiness


>
>
> In a message dated 8/30/00 8:35:49 PM, phildavidson@... writes:
>
> << Go with the Phyllostachys, Pleioblastus, Sasa Pseudosasa species of
bamboo.
> Many are hardy to well below zero.
>
> Phil >>
>
> Phil:  Do you mean zero F. or zero C.?
>
> Dan
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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I think 0°F. You know moso bamboo can grow in -18 to -20°C.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jinhe Fu
Tel.: 0049-551-393663(O), 3795851(H)
Fax: 0049-551-394019(O)
Email: jfu@...
Homepage: Bamboo Bambus Zhuzi
http://www.geocities.com/zhuzi.geo/
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: <PermacultureNo1@...>
An: <bamboo-plantations@egroups.com>
Gesendet: Thursday, August 31, 2000 12:59 PM
Betreff: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Hardiness


>
>
> In a message dated 8/30/00 8:35:49 PM, phildavidson@... writes:
>
> << Go with the Phyllostachys, Pleioblastus, Sasa Pseudosasa species of
bamboo.
> Many are hardy to well below zero.
>
> Phil >>
>
> Phil:  Do you mean zero F. or zero C.?
>
> Dan
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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In a message dated 8/30/00 8:35:49 PM, phildavidson@... writes:

<< Go with the Phyllostachys, Pleioblastus, Sasa Pseudosasa species of bamboo.
Many are hardy to well below zero.

Phil >>

Phil:  Do you mean zero F. or zero C.?

Dan

Can any one tell me about the markets of bamboo grown in the s.e. US.
Not uses of, but the markets. Are there presently buyers, and where??

Is bamboo considered invasive.    I have a plantation of pine and at one
site is the old fish pole type bamboo.  It increases in size each year
and is competitive with pines. Are there species of bamboo that is not
invasive.
Thanks
david d

Go with the Phyllostachys, Pleioblastus, Sasa Pseudosasa species of bamboo.
Many are hardy to well below zero.

Phil


Jade Mountain Bamboo Nursery
"We Specialize in Hardy Bamboos"
http://www.jademountainbamboo.com
Tel:  253.548.1129

----- Original Message -----
From: Clifford England <nuttrees@...>
To: <bamboo-plantations@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:29 AM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Hardiness


>
> Living oversees for many years in Asia I developed a true love for Bamboo
> but have never considered propagating it,  What is the hardiest and
largest
> growing varieties that will live and grow well in zone 5 and 6.
>
> We will be looking forward to helping you with any questions or needs you
> may have.
>
>
> Thank you Clifford England
> England's Orchard and Nursery
> 316 S.R 2004
> McKee, KY. 40447-9616     pH toll free 877 965 2228
> Specializing in Exotic fruit and nut trees for alternative crops.
> Planting the seeds (nut trees) for the future.
> www.nuttrees.net
>
> ..
>
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Addresses:
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>
>

Living oversees for many years in Asia I developed a true love for Bamboo
but have never considered propagating it,  What is the hardiest and largest
growing varieties that will live and grow well in zone 5 and 6.

We will be looking forward to helping you with any questions or needs you
may have.


Thank you Clifford England
England's Orchard and Nursery
316 S.R 2004
McKee, KY. 40447-9616     pH toll free 877 965 2228
Specializing in Exotic fruit and nut trees for alternative crops.
Planting the seeds (nut trees) for the future.
www.nuttrees.net

..

Dear Moderator,

I can't seem to view the posted messages...any adjustments going on?

                         Thanks for your attention, DAN

China bamboo Centre is a specialist grower and supplier of China
bamboo plants, nursery stock, tree plants, bamboo&wood products, etc.
Email: bamboo@..., Website:
http://www.chinabamboocentre.com

New Delhi: The Environment and Forest Ministry has cleared the export of bamboo from the northeastern states to neighboring Bangladesh.

Environment and Forest minister T R Baalu told Meghalaya Chief Minister E K Mawlong on Thursday that the Center had cleared the export of five million pieces of "muli bamboo" from the Northeast to Bangladesh, an official statement issued said. Mawlong met Baalu to seek Central assistance for the development of timber-based industries in Meghalaya.

Meghalaya, along with some other tribal-inhabited states of the Northeast, has been hit hard by a ban on indiscriminate felling of trees imposed by the Supreme Court four years ago. While the apex court's directive has helped in arresting the depletion of the region's forests, people running timber-based industries have been adversely affected.

The Supreme Court also imposed restrictions on the export of timber and forest resources from the region and ordered that all timber-based industries should be relocated in industrial estates approved by the Ministry of Environment and Forest.

During the meeting, Mawlong asked Baalu to clear a proposal for setting up seven more industrial estates in Meghalaya that would facilitate effective control of timber-based industries and prevent the illicit felling of trees, the statement said.

Baalu said the Center had already cleared the setting up of 12 industrial estates in Meghalaya and the proposal for seven more estates would be considered expeditiously, the statement said. He also urged the Meghalaya government to increase its allocations for the forestry sector to achieve the objective of sustainable development of forests.

India Abroad News Service

Welcome to the group.  You may find this site useful.
http://www.ecotimber.com/Pages/BambooFlooring.html
good luck,
Victor
----- Original Message -----
From: "aus_phil" <aus_phil@...>
To: <bamboo-plantations@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 12:41 PM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo Floorings


> 25 August 2000
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I was impressed with the quality of bamboo made into floors.  It is not
the
> typical semi--round slat but flattened.
>
> I am not sure of the acceptability of this bamboo floors in Australia but
> the picture itself tells the whole story.
>
> Do we have the manufacturing facility to make such kind of floor covering?
> At the moment it is being marketing by local firm here.
>
> I wonder if we could push this product here in Australia?
>
> I have an import / export company here but have not tried this line of
> product.
>
> Any information for this product esp. in Davao would be highly
appreciated.
> I will head to DC early September.  Roaming cell phone is 0410-687-594.
You
> can call me at this number early September.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eric Atencia
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> bamboo-plantations-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>
>

25 August 2000

Dear Friends,

I was impressed with the quality of bamboo made into floors.  It is not the
typical semi--round slat but flattened.

I am not sure of the acceptability of this bamboo floors in Australia but
the picture itself tells the whole story.

Do we have the manufacturing facility to make such kind of floor covering?
At the moment it is being marketing by local firm here.

I wonder if we could push this product here in Australia?

I have an import / export company here but have not tried this line of
product.

Any information for this product esp. in Davao would be highly appreciated.
I will head to DC early September.  Roaming cell phone is 0410-687-594.  You
can call me at this number early September.

Cheers,

Eric Atencia

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