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Hi Raphael,

Thanks for the heads-up re: Forbes.COM and Naturally Bamboo's entry in the
"Boost your Business" contest. I tried to forward your post to Forbes.COM
several ways before deciding to crawl into the belly of the beast by signing up
as a member in order to direct the editors to bamboo plantations discussion
group and your post. Membership doesn't cost anything, other than a possible
increase in the amount of junk mail and email that I receive.

Best Wishes, Frank

--- In bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com, Raphael Moras de Vasconcellos
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>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> if you go to http://boost09.perfectprize.com/voting/ you can see Naturally
> Bamboo in the top 5 list of "Boost your Business" contest from Forbes.COM.
>
> The problem is that Naturally Bamboo is being presented as an eco-friendly
> bamboo fiber clothing, and we know that such a thing does not exist (see
> http://specialtyfabricsreview.com/articles/1009_c1_bamboozled.html).
>
> best wishes,
>
> Raphael Moras de Vasconcellos
> raphael@...
> www.bambubrasileiro.com
>

#9857

From: ian parker <philippine_jeepney@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:05 am
Subject: Re: "Bamboo Flowering

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Hello to all in Bamboo Plantations

Dear Daphne there is a saying in England, "Your Never Too Old To Learn". We have had our differences on this bamboo club site in the past, about shipping bamboo and the environment, but i,am not to old to learn. Thank you for educating me on the bamboo flowering more than 40 years. I never knew that. So take care and keep up the good work.

Regards from Ian

Contact Mr Ian R Parker. Norfolk Bamboo Crafts

Bamboo Nipa Huts For Private and Commercial Gardens

ie Schools, Hotels, Offices, B&B`s.

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Tel Mobile 07883072819 Tel Office 01553 829173

The Beauty Is In The Bamboo

--- On Thu, 5/11/09, Daphne Lewis <daphne@...> wrote:

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Fwd: "Bamboo Honey" from Doug Harrison
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 5 November, 2009, 2:54

Hi Doug, Buckwheat is a dicot, not a grass, ie., not a wheat. Real bamboo can not produce honey as it does not flower except once every 40 to 120 years.

Daphne Lewis
www.chalosulky.com
WSUBAMBOO.COM
Federal Way WA USA

On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Susanne Lucas wrote:

I posted a response to the bamboo honey question and it did not appear on the bamboo-plantations group, so I guess I need to repost this directly to you:

Actually, I'd like to know the answer to this question as well. Usually, grasses and grains are pollinated by the wind, but it would be interesting not only to know if bees are ever involved in bamboo pollination but also if the honey is any good at all. There is, of course, buckwheat honey, so it is not impossible for bees to be involved. What we have in the U.S. that is called "bamboo honey" comes from the Japanese knotweed (which isn't bamboo), but its flavor is said to be milder than that of buckwheat, which is fairly strong flavored. If real bamboo can produce honey, I'd like to try it, as I'm interested in all sorts of honey.

Doug Harrison
Minnesota

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#9856

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Bamboo as forage

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Hello Amit,

Beware though, that the cattle may take a liking to the bamboo shoots. I even had a dog one time that ate bamboo shoots.

Daphne Lewis

Bamboophile

www.chalosulky.com

www.wsubamboo.com

Federal Way, WA USA

On Oct 31, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Amit Chopra wrote:

Hello,
I have no idea about how to commercially exploit Bamboo leaves for forage,but I do know that cattle loveto eat the leaves...it's something that almost ruined me.I'd put up a stone soil wall around my plantation and the cattle would jump and get in...the villagers were not in a habit of tying up their stock.
I believe Bamboo leaves are something of a delicacy for cattle...they prefer it to other folliage.
My only consolation is that the cattle will not be able to reach the leaves once the bamboo gains height.
Regards
Amit Chopra

#9855

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

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SILVER CRONE, WELCOME THE WORLD OF BAMBOO. BE SURE TO CONTACT THE TEXAS BAMBOO SOCIETY. ONE OF THE MEMBERS WILL HELP YOU DETERMINE WHAT KIND YOU HAVE.

DAPHNE LEWIS WHO GUESSES IT IS PHYLLOSTACHYS AUREA.

On Nov 1, 2009, at 1:36 PM, chris fichtner wrote:

WELL SINCE BRIAN ASKED A QUESTION AND GOT AT LEAST ONE ANS.
ILL TRY AGAIN
A FRIEND GAVE ME SOME BAMBOO
HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT KIND IT IS [ IT WAS THERE WHEN HE MOVED THERE ]
HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHAT KIND YOU HAVE?
I LIKE BAMBOO SHOOTS AND WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN EAT WHAT I HAVE?

SILVER CRONE TX
I'M LEGALLY BLIND AND TYPE IN ALL CAPS

#9854

From: Peter knop <peterknop@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 3:23 am
Subject: Re: Bamboo as forage and other things

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Zoos need the stuff, but have strict rules as to how and where it is grown and to what it is exposed to (at least the good zoos). For example, if dogs have access to the groves, it is ineligible for some of the animals - generally those with the biggest appetities :-). Any animal petting operation which sells feed cups is excellent market. important to get bunches small enough, yet worthy of sale. Culms make fantastic holders, but one needs special saw blades to cut cleanly and efficiently and on large scale have grinders which can quickly (VERY) remove burrs or the branch nubs at the nodes (look at bamboo furniture - need to make the container safe for little (or big) hands. Great way to intruduce people, kids especially, to bamboo. The statistics of bamboo vs feed cups is pretty astonishing - very interesting to know what long term impact would be on people's attitude towards bamboo if a million or two a year had a positive experience with the real stuff......We have added quite a few thousands (Bamboo flag poles are especially impressive and few can believe they grow full size in a matter of a few weeks in one summer season - but they are hard to transport - most of those we use are over 30 feet in height, with quite a few over 40 feet.). Someday we will get some pictures of how we use it in construction here and as fasteners (endless uses as different kinds of fasteners and we use thousands a year for this purpose. For example great "green" replacemengts for sod staples, and cost us about the same, so we can be environmental without additional cost. As always, finding the "right" way to properly produce is a key to success, and this has taken us many failed attempts before success. When time (is there ever?) we may add a bamboo button and book to our web site.

AND growers have to learn which bamboo is liked best by which animals, as animals do have preferences, some being virtually totally rejected by some.

We are trying to increase our test plots, but have run out of stean buying, especially as we had a poor year this year with what we bought, losing for the first time ever a number of the plants purchased. We water religiously and in 20 years have never lost a plant, so we are not over watering, and soils are the same, so we are now leery of buying, not to mention economy has been so tough the budget has gone south. If anyone wants to donate varieties we do not have, we would test and publish the results. (I believe some nutrition numbers are available and could be added - but we are more interested right now in discovering which animals like what.)

Peter, zone 7, Northern Virginia, USA

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Daphne Lewis <daphne@...> wrote:

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo as forage
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 1:17 PM

Hello Peter,

Your information on forage is valuable! Please tell us how you used it for forage and how you harvested it. How did you sell it? What was the niche Market?

Yours in bamboo,

Daphne Lewis

www.chalosulky. com

http://web.me. com/daphne. lewis - WSU bamboo web page

Daphne Lewis

On Oct 26, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Peter knop wrote:

Does anyone have current information on the use of temperate bamboo as forage and how it is harvested? We have been using it quite heavily this year ( a few tons)(and successfully) , except for costs of harvest. Too labour intensive, even with excellent prices and demand in a niche market.

      As the market is a 12 month a year one, each season produces its own difficult issues. Especially shooting time, how not to overly damage shoots and new culms without weakening grove.

       Thanks!

           Peter Knop, zone 7, northern Virginia, USA

#9853

From: "Andre and Julia Leu" <leu@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:29 pm
Subject: RE: G. Atter Flowering

daintreeorganic

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Hi folks,

I have one G.atter in full flower and another not flowering.

Cheers

Andre

Daintree, Qld Australia

From: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eberg54
Sent: Monday, 26 October 2009 10:57 PM
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] G. Atter Flowering

Hi all, two of my G.Atter plants about 4-6mt high that have started to flower, last year 2 others flowered and died without producing any viable seed, so I wonder if a trend is starting in this area ( Ningi, Qld. Australia). Regards

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#9852

From: Tom Harlow <tharlow@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 3:27 am
Subject: Re: Re:guttation Bambo Honey

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Based on tasting the liquid coming from the leaf tips and failure to see yellow jacket wasps attracted to it, my guess is that bamboo guttation is not nectar like. Yellow jackets are good at noticing anything sweet.

--Tom

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Aslandra <aslandra@...> wrote:

From: Aslandra <aslandra@...>
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 8:25 PM

Hmm. I am wondering whether or not the Guttation might be used as a source of fragrance and nectar for bees, since its composition depends upon species and plant nutrition and soil content.

Aslandra
----- Original Message -----
From: Jinhe Fu
To: bamboo-plantations@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:00 AM
Subject: 答复: [bamboo-plantations ] Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

Years ago one company in Shanghai phoned the possibility to use bamboo
flower to produce perfume and I told the company it's not feasible.
Regards
Jinhe in Ghana

#9851

From: mauiforest@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: Hi everybody

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see bambooisgrass.com

-----Original Message-----
From: shyam_raman <shyam_raman@...>
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 9, 2009 1:17 am
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Hi everybody

Hi,

I am Shyam Janakiraman,started my PhD on use of bamboos for wastewater treatment and reuse and energy recovery in the form of charcoal from biomass. I would encourage any interesting debates on use of bamboos. Please reply if anyone is interested.

Regards

Shyam

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#9850

From: rick gsell <possibilityofhappiness@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 1:33 am
Subject: Re: bamboo in

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Shahed,can you tell me more about what you do? I am interested in energy and community development. Rick

--- On Sat, 11/7/09, shahed khan <shahedkhandhk@...> wrote:

From: shahed khan <shahedkhandhk@...>
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] bamboo in
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 12:22 AM

Bamboo is of interest to me because it can meet the energy needs of the country,by carbonizing & trading in briquettes & in the community where besides being a good source of income generation & poverty alleviation, it has countless uses be in the home construction, flooring ,furniture Or handicraft making & what not.
Being in the field of energy & community developement I find it useful for all purposes

#9849

From: Johnek Henry <jhnkhenry@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 8:40 am
Subject: Re: Bamboo honey_a misleading name

jhnkhenry

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Do keep up fellows, little digress mean no harm, Its just peeking at other dimension, least too much of apple make billy a dull meal.

--- On Fri, 6/11/09, Roberto Neumann <neumann.ra@...> wrote:

From: Roberto Neumann <neumann.ra@...>
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo honey_a misleading name
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 6 November, 2009, 7:49 PM

To all members,

Bamboo honey is a real misleading name, since it is related to "japanese bamboo" or "japanese knotweed" which is Fallopia japonica belonging to the Polygonaceae. This species is one of the 100 worst weeds in the world.

It is hard to understand why buckwheat was mentioned in relation to this unfortunately issue, since it has nothing in common whit bamboo. It is Fagopyrum esculentum, another Polygonaceae.

Personally, I will remind all members of this useful forum that there are many important topics upon bamboo to deal with. Please, contribute with known and knew facts and suggestions. Best regards

Ing.Agr. Roberto Neumann
Av. del Golf 528
(A4408LZS) Salta, Argentina
Tel. 0387-439 1086
neumann.ra@gmail. com

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#9848

From: Punya Poudyal <bambusa1789@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:08 am
Subject: Bamboo congress

bambusa1789@...

Dear Dr. Lakshmana:

Thank you so very much for appreciating my efforts.

Sincerely yours
Punya

To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
From: aclakshmana@...
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:30:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo congress

Dear Dr.Punya,

I am happy that you have dedicated the bamboo book in the name of Dr.K.Ueda a towering personality in the bamboo sector. It will be a model for others. Keep it up.

Yours sincerely,

a.c.lakshmana

A.C.Lakshmana, I.F.S, (Retd)

Former Secretary to Govt. of Karnataka,

House No 1, 7th main, 1 st cross

Gokulam IIIrd stage

Mysore 570 020

India

Cell : (+91) 98453 22422

From: Punya Poudyal <bambusa1789@hotmail.com>
To: Bamboo Group <bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, October 22, 2009 1:27:14 AM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo congress

I'm very glad to know that Prof. Dr. Koichiro Ueda was honored in the IBC in Bangkok in mid-September. An International Bamboo Workshop was held in Chiangmai, Thailand in late November 1991. I'd requested to some of the members in the organizing committee that I wanted to dedicate my presentation to Prof. Ueda by offering a minute of silence (Dr. Ueda had passed away on March 23, 1991, and I thought the timing would be most appropriate then to honor him). My desire was not fulfilled. I published a book "Bamboos of Sikkim (India), Bhutan and Nepal" in 2006 and didicated this book to late professor Ueda.

Punya

To: bamboo-plantations@ yahoogroups. com
From: rbibal2020@yahoo. com
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:09:11 -0700
Subject: Fw: [bamboo-plantations ] Bamboo congress

Hi Ric,

I was able to attend the 8th World Bamboo Congress with theme on "Bamboo, the Environment and Climate Change" which was held in Bangkok, Thailand on September 15-19,2009.
Among the highlights or the significant output of the congress were; (1) the declaration of September 18 of every year as the World Bamboo Day, (thanks to the World Congress organizers and the participating countries around the globe); the framing of the resolution signed by all delegates address to the Nations to include bamboo development as a means to mitigate global warming and climate change. Four outstanding bamboo scientists were honored by their pioneering works on bamboo namely; Dr. Ueda Koichiro of Japan, Dr, Floyd Alonzo McClure of United States and Dr. Walter Liese of Germany. Dr W. Liese is very dear to our country, the Philippines because he rendered his expertise as a wood science and technology consultant in the country in 1960s.

Among the topics discussed in the congress were the following;

a. Bamboo for Thailand and Southeast Asia
b. Bamboo and Environment
c. Resources- Forestry, Plantation and Conservation
d. Biology and Taxonomy
d. Horticulture
e.Community and Economic Developement
f. Production , Design and industrial Aspects
g. Material Properties
h. Architrecture and Engineering
i. Partnership for Better World (INBAR)

I would like to thank personally the people and institutions who helped me to attend the congress;
Dr. Kamesh Salam- President of WBO
Sussane Lucas - Chief Executive of WBO
Dra. Julie Carantes Cabato- Centennial Commision, Baguio City, Philippines
Dr. Jonathan Scherch- Director of Pacific Bamboo Resources Seattle, Wa. USA
Mayor Reinaldo Bautista Jr. Municipal Mayor, Baguio City, Philippines
Bamboo Network of the Philippines, Makati City, Philippines

Best,

Bibal
Visual Artist
Baguio-Benguet, Philippines

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To: bamboo-plantations@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:38:20 AM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations ] Bamboo congress

Does anyone have any thing to report on the last Bamboo congress in Bangkok? I was planning on going but could not.

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#9847

From: DGHarrison <DGHarrison@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 1:46 am
Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

huaruisheng

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Actually, I'd like to know the answer to this question as well. Usually, grasses and grains are pollinated by the wind, but it would be interesting not only to know if bees are ever involved in bamboo pollination but also if the honey is any good at all. There is, of course, buckwheat honey, so it is not impossible for bees to be involved. What we have in the U.S. that is called "bamboo honey" comes from the Japanese knotweed (which isn't bamboo), but its flavor is said to be milder than that of buckwheat, which is fairly strong flavored. If real bamboo can produce honey, I'd like to try it, as I'm interested in all sorts of honey.

Doug Harrison
Minnesota

Hello all -
I replied to Bruce but thought someone out there could have other answers. My reply was that bamboo rarely flowers - so finding a large grove in flower would be VERY unusual, especially in the U.S. where most large bamboos groves are Phyllostachys. Secondly, I thought bamboos are wind-pollinated - would bees be attracted to bamboo pollen???? Doubtful. But perhaps someone out there knows something more?
Please reply directly to Brian - or I can forward.
thanks,
Susanne
--- In bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com, Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...> wrote:

I am writing in hopes you can help me. My name is Brian, I am a beekeeper in
NJ. I am looking for bamboo growers, with a large well established bamboo
field. Specifically, I'm looking to collect honey from bamboo. I know it
flowers after a while, so my best hope is you. If you are not aware,
monofloral honey is honey collected primarily from one flower source. So, I
need a few acres of bamboo in bloom. If you do not know of any Bamboo in
bloom, please hold my information and contact me when you can.
Regards,
Brian
908 781 1779 h
732 672 5576 c
-- Susanne Lucas
www.SusanneLucas.com
www.BambooSelect.us
www.worldbamboo.net
www.worldbamboocongress.org


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#9846

From: chris fichtner <nowsilvercrone@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

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WELL SINCE BRIAN ASKED A QUESTION AND GOT AT LEAST ONE ANS.

ILL TRY AGAIN

A FRIEND GAVE ME SOME BAMBOO

HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT KIND IT IS [ IT WAS THERE WHEN HE MOVED THERE ]

HOW DO YOU FIND OUT WHAT KIND YOU HAVE?

I LIKE BAMBOO SHOOTS AND WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN EAT WHAT I HAVE?

SILVER CRONE TX
I'M LEGALLY BLIND AND TYPE IN ALL CAPS

--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...> wrote:

From: Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...>
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Fwd: Bambo Honey
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Brian Rowe" <bdrowe81@...>
Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009, 9:44 AM

I am writing in hopes you can help me. My name is Brian, I am a beekeeper in NJ. I am looking for bamboo growers, with a large well established bamboo field. Specifically, I'm looking to collect honey from bamboo. I know it flowers after a while, so my best hope is you. If you are not aware, monofloral honey is honey collected primarily from one flower source. So, I need a few acres of bamboo in bloom. If you do not know of any Bamboo in bloom, please hold my information and contact me when you can.

Regards,

Brian

908 781 1779 h

732 672 5576 c

--
Susanne Lucas
www.SusanneLucas.com
www.BambooSelect.us
www.worldbamboo.net
www.worldbamboocongress.org

#9845

From: "Ted Meredith" <tedmeredith@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 10:13 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

zenovato

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http://www.ebeehoney.com/HoneyVarieties.html

Hello Susanne and all---

“Bamboo honey” is produced from Japanese knotweed. Apparently it is somewhat of a regional term of the Northeastern United States. The link below tells more. To the site’s credit, it does explain what “bamboo honey” really is.

Ted

Ted Jordan Meredith

http://www.amazon.com/Ted-Jordan-Meredith/e/B001JS1E16/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1

From: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of susannelucas@...
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:59 AM
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

Hello all -
I replied to Bruce but thought someone out there could have other answers. My reply was that bamboo rarely flowers - so finding a large grove in flower would be VERY unusual, especially in the U.S. where most large bamboos groves are Phyllostachys. Secondly, I thought bamboos are wind-pollinated - would bees be attracted to bamboo pollen???? Doubtful.
But perhaps someone out there knows something more?
Please reply directly to Brian - or I can forward.
thanks,
Susanne

--- In bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com, Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...> wrote:
>
> I am writing in hopes you can help me. My name is Brian, I am a beekeeper in
> NJ. I am looking for bamboo growers, with a large well established bamboo
> field. Specifically, I'm looking to collect honey from bamboo. I know it
> flowers after a while, so my best hope is you. If you are not aware,
> monofloral honey is honey collected primarily from one flower source. So, I
> need a few acres of bamboo in bloom. If you do not know of any Bamboo in
> bloom, please hold my information and contact me when you can.
>
> Regards,
> Brian
> 908 781 1779 h
> 732 672 5576 c
>
>
>
> --
> Susanne Lucas
> www.SusanneLucas.com
> www.BambooSelect.us
> www.worldbamboo.net
> www.worldbamboocongress.org
>

#9844

From: "a.c. lakshmana" <aclakshmana@...>
Date: Sun Nov 1, 2009 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: Bambo Honey

aclakshmana

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Dear Mr. Brian,

Bamboo mostly flowers at long intervals, of almost once in 30-40 years.When it flowers lot of insects ,bees,become active.When it seeds next year jungle fowls and bird population increases tremendously. It is not practical to think of bamboo for honey collection. Phyllostchys is reported to flower at long interval of nearly 100 years.

Hence please drop your idea.

Yours sincerely,

a.c.lakshmana

camp-New York

A.C.Lakshmana, I.F.S, (Retd)

Former Secretary to Govt. of Karnataka,

House No 1, 7th main, 1 st cross

Gokulam IIIrd stage

Mysore 570 020

India

Cell : (+91) 98453 22422

From: Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...>
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Brian Rowe <bdrowe81@...>
Sent: Sun, November 1, 2009 10:44:04 AM
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Fwd: Bambo Honey

I am writing in hopes you can help me. My name is Brian, I am a beekeeper in NJ. I am looking for bamboo growers, with a large well established bamboo field. Specifically, I'm looking to collect honey from bamboo. I know it flowers after a while, so my best hope is you. If you are not aware, monofloral honey is honey collected primarily from one flower source. So, I need a few acres of bamboo in bloom. If you do not know of any Bamboo in bloom, please hold my information and contact me when you can.

Regards,

Brian

908 781 1779 h

732 672 5576 c

--
Susanne Lucas
www.SusanneLucas. com
www.BambooSelect. us
www.worldbamboo. net
www.worldbamboocong ress.org

#9843

From: Amit Chopra <a_mit_chap@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: G. Atter Flowering

a_mit_chap

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Hi,

I planted some 6000 plants of D Strictus in Ratnagiri,India using Node Internode method.The planting material showed flowering in 20% approximately.I visited the forestry dept and found from some knowledgable people that cutting the plant which has flowered at the groung level and burning some leaves on top could yield good suckers afterwards.I did with a few ,doubting the wisdomall the same and found it did give results in a few cases.

Regards

Amit Chopra

--- On Mon, 10/26/09, eberg54 <eberg54@...> wrote:

From: eberg54 <eberg54@...>
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] G. Atter Flowering
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 6:26 PM

Hi all, two of my G.Atter plants about 4-6mt high that have started to flower, last year 2 others flowered and died without producing any viable seed, so I wonder if a trend is starting in this area ( Ningi, Qld. Australia). Regards

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#9842

From: Amit Chopra <a_mit_chap@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Bamboo as forage

a_mit_chap

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Hello,

I have no idea about how to commercially exploit Bamboo leaves for forage,but I do know that cattle loveto eat the leaves...it's something that almost ruined me.I'd put up a stone soil wall around my plantation and the cattle would jump and get in...the villagers were not in a habit of tying up their stock.

I believe Bamboo leaves are something of a delicacy for cattle...they prefer it to other folliage.

My only consolation is that the cattle will not be able to reach the leaves once the bamboo gains height.

Regards

Amit Chopra

--- On Fri, 10/30/09, Daphne Lewis <daphne@...> wrote:

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Subject: Re: [bamboo-plantations] Re: Bamboo as forage
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 7:38 AM

Hi Bruce,

I used to be part of a bamboo planting effort in Washington State. My friend Simon Henderson would pick up a fresh bamboo pole with branches and leaves. He would run along the pasture fence and the black big beef cow would run after him with drool coming out of her mouth. Then Simon would give her the pole. Simon also gave bamboo to the llamas on the land.

I used to take loads of fresh bamboo to the Zoo. The elephants loved it, leaves and all and so did the primates.

Once I was thinning a hedge of Semiarundinaria fastuosa. In the back pasture were horses. We took fresh poles with leaves to the horses. I remember being amazed. The horse somehow pulled the culm WAY up into its long neck and head and when the pole came back out, all the leaves were stripped off.

At the WSU research groves over the summer there are sheep as part of the research on managing soil by rotating annual vegetables, cover crops and sheep and chickens. I always would take a few nice leafy poles to the sheep. They would run to me when they saw me. Then they settled down to strip the leaves after I heaved them over the two movable electric fences.

As for cows needing the branches cut. Garold Nelson used to cut several poles each day and tie them to his fence. When the cows and steers were finished stripping the leaves (and branches?), he felt that his job of trimming the pole for storage and sale was easier.

You can see a photo or two of the sheep on the web site in my signature.

Daphne Lewis
www.chalosulky. com
www.WSUBAMBOO. COM
Federal Way WA USA

On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:19 AM, bbamboo wrote:

Which species of animal are being fed bamboo?
As I remember the previous study on Bamboo as forage ( Pacific Northwest region), horses were smarter than cows. Horses required less processing as horses could strip leaves from a culm, while cows needed the branches cut, etc.

I'm interested in knowing more about your forage operations.

Bruce Bagnoli

#9841

From: azmy mohamed <drazmy2002@...>
Date: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:17 am
Subject: Re: Re: Bamboo as forage

drazmy2002

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Hi Bruce,

The Indians in India have done some research on the bamboo as forage
too (I forgot about the webpage). In fact, they have done studies on the nutrients taken by the cows. In Malaysia, I have seen cows likened to eat the shoot's sheath and it's worth it but on a smaller scale. Thanks.

Assoc. Prof. Dr. Azmy Hj.. Mohamed
Department of Forest Production,
Faculty of Forestry,
Universiti Putra Malaysia
43400, Serdang, Selangor, D.E.

Tel: 03-89467192
H/p: 012-2234745

Fax No; 03- 89432514

From: bbamboo <bbamboo@...>
To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 12:19:38
Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Re: Bamboo as forage

Which species of animal are being fed bamboo?
As I remember the previous study on Bamboo as forage ( Pacific Northwest region), horses were smarter than cows. Horses required less processing as horses could strip leaves from a culm, while cows needed the branches cut, etc.

I'm interested in knowing more about your forage operations.

Bruce Bagnoli

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#9840

From: "nowsilvercrone@..." <nowsilvercrone@...>
Date: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: NEW

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HI IM NEW HERE,I'M KNOWN AS SILVER
A FRIEND GAVE ME 5 PLANTS AND HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT KIND HE HAS.
I WANT THEM FOR A SCREEN AND TO EAT
HOW DO I TELL WHAT THEY ARE
THANKS IN ADVANCE
SILVER CRONE

#9839

From: "Aslandra" <aslandra@...>
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: Bamboo as forage

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I would suggest that you graze it as any other perennial forage - by rotation. As for harvesting for winter storage, in your climate I don't see the point of that since you can graze year around.

I would consider planting it for shade also.

Keep in mind with animals on pasture, the operation is "growing grass" and using animals to harvest it.

I have fed sheep with bamboo as forage and then supplemented with other products (forages, grains, vitamins, minerals), and you will have to test your bamboo in order to determine what you need to supplement the soil with as well as what you need to supplement the animals with.

What else you grow on the pasture will also require management, so the adage of KISS (Keep it simple, stupid) really counts.

One note, I would strongly recommend keeping ALL ailanthus trees as they make good fall forage as well as shade. Just before the leaves stop being green you can top the trees at about 6 feet and have new crop the following year as well as shade in the summer.

Aslandra

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter knop

To: bamboo-plantations@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 10:17 PM

Subject: [bamboo-plantations] Bamboo as forage

Does anyone have current information on the use of temperate bamboo as forage and how it is harvested? We have been using it quite heavily this year ( a few tons)(and successfully), except for costs of harvest. Too labour intensive, even with excellent prices and demand in a niche market.

      As the market is a 12 month a year one, each season produces its own difficult issues. Especially shooting time, how not to overly damage shoots and new culms without weakening grove.

       Thanks!

           Peter Knop, zone 7, northern Virginia, USA

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      Thanks!Th___

#9838

From: Wliese@...
Date: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Bamboo congress

Wliese@...

Dear Shri Lakshamana,

I am glad about your good words for Prof. Ueda. I had made the proposal to honor him as a Bamboo Pioneer, and the photo in the program has been supplied by me. I was given the honor to held the Prof. Ueda Lecture

Enclosed two further photos, taken 1966 with the young Walter Liese and 1981 at the Bamboo Garden, Kyoto.

Best wishes

Walter Liese

2 of 2 Photo(s)

Pof_Meda_1981.jpg

Prof_Meda_Kyoto_1966.jpg

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#9837

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 2:54 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: "Bamboo Honey" from Doug Harrison

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Hi Doug, Buckwheat is a dicot, not a grass, ie., not a wheat. Real bamboo can not produce honey as it does not flower except once every 40 to 120 years.

Daphne Lewis

www.chalosulky.com

WSUBAMBOO.COM

Federal Way WA USA

On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Susanne Lucas wrote:

I posted a response to the bamboo honey question and it did not appear on the bamboo-plantations group, so I guess I need to repost this directly to you:

Actually, I'd like to know the answer to this question as well. Usually, grasses and grains are pollinated by the wind, but it would be interesting not only to know if bees are ever involved in bamboo pollination but also if the honey is any good at all. There is, of course, buckwheat honey, so it is not impossible for bees to be involved. What we have in the U.S. that is called "bamboo honey" comes from the Japanese knotweed (which isn't bamboo), but its flavor is said to be milder than that of buckwheat, which is fairly strong flavored. If real bamboo can produce honey, I'd like to try it, as I'm interested in all sorts of honey.

Doug Harrison
Minnesota

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#9836

From: Knapp <magick.crow@...>
Date: Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: please post

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On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Susanne Lucas <susannelucas@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> important case =  the dangers of over-stating bamboo's virtues in marketing
bamboo products
> http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/textile-news/newsdetails.aspx?news_id=78398
>
> --
> Susanne Lucas
> www.SusanneLucas.com
> www.BambooSelect.us
> www.worldbamboo.net
> www.worldbamboocongress.org

The important point here is not over stating bamboo but overstating
something that is no longer bamboo. It is a bit like, but worse,
marketing a human corpse as the ultimate thinking machine.

--
Douglas E Knapp

Why do we live?

#9835

From: Raphael Moras de Vasconcellos <raphael@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:47 pm
Subject: Forbes.COM is about to make a big mistake - Naturally bamboo and its "bamboo fiber" clothing

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Dear colleagues,

if you go to http://boost09.perfectprize.com/voting/ you can see Naturally Bamboo in the top 5 list of "Boost your Business" contest from Forbes.COM.

The problem is that Naturally Bamboo is being presented as an eco-friendly bamboo fiber clothing, and we know that such a thing does not exist (see http://specialtyfabricsreview.com/articles/1009_c1_bamboozled.html).

best wishes,

Raphael Moras de Vasconcellos
raphael@...
www.bambubrasileiro.com

#9834

From: "Ewa" <ewae@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:45 pm
Subject: Bamboo in Long Beach, CA

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Hello, I am looking for a bamboo stick or halved piece in/near Long Beach,
California.
I need about 70 inches of it and 1-1.25 inch in diameter.
If anyone know where to buy or get it I will greatly appreciate the information
(I found it in some places either too thin or too thick).

#9833

From: shahed khan <shahedkhandhk@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:38 am
Subject: Re: for electricity generation

shahedkhandhk

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A leading Indian company & Clenergan are starting projects on this aspect.It is to be appreciated .
Does any one here have any idea about their projects

#9832

From: "shahed" <shahedkhandhk@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 5:31 am
Subject: Beema bamboo

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I would b happy to know of group members having idea about Beema  bamboo as a
form of energy specific bamboo & its use in INDIA for generating electricity

#9831

From: Gib Cooper <gib@...>
Date: Sat Nov 7, 2009 4:02 pm
Subject: Rayon made from Bamboo

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http://www.sustainablelifemedia.com/content/column/strategy/first_clean_coal_now_organic_bamboo

An excerpt from Carol Rose's article that explains the problem with bamboo textiles and marketing promotions.

"There are many plant based raw material sources for rayon. Bamboo is just another one of those raw material sources. The marketing of Bamboo is that of a more glamorous commodity, than let's say Eucalyptus, Beechwood, Spruce or Pine.

Textile scientist and consumer advocate Dr. Gwendolyn Hustvedt states in her FTC testimony that "No mention is made of the process by which the rayon is produced and the consumer is left to believe that the fiber is "new" and "superior" based solely on the source of the material. No one would dream of labeling a product as "spruce" or "pine", but because it seems vaguely credible that bamboo plants could be made into fiber with minimal processing, the process is never discussed. This failure to discuss the process would not be so noxious if the suggestion was not also being made that the fiber is environmentally superior."

Gib Cooper

gib@...

#9830

From: Txbooguru@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: Hi everybody

txbooguru2001

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Shyam:: there have been many threads over the years on this group, regards, charcoal and charcoal making, but very little regards wastewater treatment. Any comments or other info you would care to share w/ us, would be welcome regards the using of bamboo for Wastewater treatment and reuse.

Best regards from Central Texas

Kinder Chambers           Texas Bamboo Society
Your ABS   /   TBS bamboo information person..
(H) 254. 593.4012                        (C) 254. 493.0827

In a message dated 11/9/2009 2:17:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, shyam_raman@... writes:

I am Shyam Janakiraman,started my PhD on use of bamboos for wastewater treatment and reuse

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#9829

From: Daphne Lewis <daphne@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: Re: guttation

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