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Re: [BCB] Non-Tech Talks

Hello all,

Barcamp is one of the very few events that I look forward to in
Bengaluru, it is one of the those events where you meet people of
various backgrounds and discuss various topics. No where else I had
the opportunity to discuss about running and cycling like the previous
two Barcamps respectively*.

I am sure the organizers had some thought process on trying out a
theme on technical topics, maybe it is an experiment or maybe it is
indeed a "return to the roots". In either case, the organizers have
always done a tremendous job, there is no doubt of that.

However, I was disappointed on the tech-focus because we really aren't
short of tech-focused events, and there is no reason why we should
exclude out non-technology topics. I was looking forward to have a
session on "productivity / lifehacking", but now I dropped the idea
because the session doesn't seem to fit into the theme of the event -
when I look at the registered topics, most of them are around a
particular software or platform - Hpricot, Cobalt, Mobile apps, etc.

Please do consider a 'any topic' theme for BCB9 :)

* http://www.swaroopch.com/blog/tag/barcamp/

Regards,
Swaroop

Books and Blog - http://www.swaroopch.com
Microblog - http://twitter.com/swaroopch



On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Sarcar, Shourya C (GE Healthcare)
<Shourya.Sarcar@...> wrote:
> This does look a bit too formal for an unconference.
>
> I agree there should be some restrictions around the timing part, but too much
> Control and governance around topics is avoidable. The operative word is "too
much".
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:50 PM
>> To: bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [BCB] Non-Tech Talks
>>
>> So what is the Theme or Purpose? Have you defined that?
>>
>> And Quoting this line
>> "The format has also been used for a variety of other topics,
>> including public transit, health care, and political organizing."
>>
>> Restricting topics is not going with this..
>>
>> Quote from the BCB FAQ :
>>
>> *" What kinds of topics can I present*?
>> A topic should be centred around a single concept or
>> opportunity relating to the technology space. A concept could
>> come from design or enginneering. A opportunity could be
>> commercial or social in nature. To ensure easy discovery by
>> participants, a topic will be bucketed into groups (web, mobile
>> )
>>
>> *What constitutes an ideal topic?*
>> A ideal topic connects concepts and opportunites. The topic
>> would seek to persuade the community about the value in
>> applying a concept to address an opportunity. The focus is on
>> the why rather than the how. Generally, a topic would pick up
>> on innovative ideas or emerging trends. (sample topics) *Are
>> there any restrictions on topics?* A topic cannot be used to
>> promote a company or demonstrate its products. If you happen
>> to be working with a interesting concept or opportunity, we
>> encourage you to share it in a generic manner while using
>> your product/solution to illustrate the point. We request you
>> to be conservative in this regard.
>>
>> *Any pointers on etiquette for the event?* During the event,
>> you will be representing yourself, not your company - you are
>> there to share and not to sell. Further, in all discussions,
>> we strongly urge you to be polite and brief when you speak -
>> please do not add noise to the signal.
>>
>> *What is the schedule for the event?*
>> The event will be held over 2 days with sessions running on 4
>> parallel tracks. Each track will have 6 sessions per
>> day(2×4x6 =48 sessions in all).
>> Sessions start on the hour (10am, 11am, 12am, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm).
>> (session allocation?). A session will be 60 minutes long with
>> 10 min for presentation, 40min for discussion and 10 min to
>> disperse and assemble for the next session.
>> "
>> :-) Is this still an Unconference with so many RULES?
>>
>> Jayanth
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Saurabh Minni
>> <saurabh.minni@...>wrote:
>>
>> > Dear friend,
>> >
>> > let me quote this line for u from
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference
>> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference#searchInput>
>> >
>> > "An *unconference* is a facilitated, participant-driven
>> > conference<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conference>centered
>> around a
>> > theme or purpose"
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp
>> >
>> > *"BarCamp* is an international network of user generated
>> conferences -
>> > open, participatory workshop-events, whose content is provided by
>> > participants"
>> >
>> > Now, how the current Barcamp setup, defy any of these.
>> Kindly please
>> > let the planners and other know, so things, if incorrect may be
>> > rectified in time
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > According to me, its perfectly fine BCB. If you want it
>> differently.
>> > Let the world know. It might be the best thing ever.
>> >
>> >
>> > Remember,
>> >
>> > 100rabh
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Jay <jayanths@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Here You Go
>> > >
>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference
>> > >
>> > > Just Before people forget what bar Camps are ,
>> > >
>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp
>> > >
>> > > This email was completely useless as these could have been gotten
>> > > from Google by the person requesting this.. :D
>> > >
>> > > Jayanth
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Saurabh Minni
>> > > <saurabh.minni@...
>> > <saurabh.minni%40gmail.com>
>> > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Jayanth,
>> > > > Would you please enlighten everyone, by what you mean
>> by UnConference.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Jay
>> <jayanths@...<jayanths%
>> > 40gmail.com>
>> > > <jayanths%40gmail.com>>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Nops.. Its what most organizers are saying.. They want to
>> > > > > deliver Focussed Content.. So how is this an UnConference?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jayanth
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Sarcar, Shourya C (GE
>> > > > > Healthcare) < Shourya.Sarcar@...
>> > > > > <Shourya.Sarcar%40med.ge.com
>> > ><Shourya.Sarcar%
>> > > 40med.ge.com> <Shourya.Sarcar%
>> > > > 40med.ge.com>> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Is that true ?
>> > > > > > I do not see anything in the part that you quoted
>> although I
>> > > > > > have
>> > > heard
>> > > > > > something like that. Also (possibly) Yahoo! As the
>> event venue
>> > could
>> > > > > > have some restrictions.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Shourya
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com<bangalore_barcamp%
>> > 40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > > >
>> [mailto:bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com<bangalore_barcamp%
>> > 40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>]
>> > > > > > On Behalf Of Jayanth S
>> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02 PM
>> > > > > > > To: bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com<bangalore_barcamp%
>> > 40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > >
>> > > > > <bangalore_barcamp%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > > > > Subject: [BCB] Non-Tech Talks
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > So i hear that non tech talks are NOT GOING TO BE
>> ALLOWED at
>> > > > > > > barcamp.. I wanted a wider audience to justify why..
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Quote from the BarCamp wiki Page
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "*BarCamp* is an international network of user generated
>> > > > > > > conferences - open, participatory workshop-events, whose
>> > > > > > > content is provided by participants.
>> > > > > > > The first BarCamps focused on early-stage web
>> > > > > > >
>> applications<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_applications>,
>> > > > > > > and related open source
>> > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source>technologies,
>> > > > > > > social protocols
>> > > > > > >
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_%28computing%29>, and
>> > > > > > > open data formats
>> > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_formats>. The
>> format has
>> > > > > > > also been used for a variety of other topics, including
>> > > > > > > public transit, health care, and political organizing."
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Jay
>> > > > > > > "Impossible Is Nothing"
>> > > > > > > http://www.amonks.in
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Jay
>> > > > > "Impossible Is Nothing"
>> > > > > http://www.amonks.in
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > http://the100rabh.blogspot.com
>> > > > http://controlenter.in
>> > > >
>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Jay
>> > > "Impossible Is Nothing"
>> > > http://www.amonks.in
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://the100rabh.blogspot.com
>> > http://controlenter.in
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jay
>> "Impossible Is Nothing"
>> http://www.amonks.in
>>
>>
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So i hear that non tech talks are NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED at barcamp.. I wanted a wider audience to justify why.. Quote from the BarCamp wiki Page "*BarCamp*...
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Is that true ? I do not see anything in the part that you quoted although I have heard something like that. Also (possibly) Yahoo! As the event venue could ...
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Nops.. Its what most organizers are saying.. They want to deliver Focussed Content.. So how is this an UnConference? Jayanth On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:29 AM,...
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Hi Jayanth, Would you please enlighten everyone, by what you mean by UnConference. ... -- http://the100rabh.blogspot.com http://controlenter.in [Non-text...
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Here You Go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference Just Before people forget what bar Camps are , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp This email was...
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Dear friend, let me quote this line for u from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference#searchInput> "An...
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So what is the Theme or Purpose? Have you defined that? And Quoting this line "The format has also been used for a variety of other topics, including public...
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This does look a bit too formal for an unconference. I agree there should be some restrictions around the timing part, but too much Control and governance...
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+1. The topics need not be technical in nature. If topics are interesting enough, people do turn up. -- Regards, Rajeev Lochan +91 9243468076 Web:...
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I just wanted to pick up on two things. Jayanth asked about the theme and purpose - that's point number 2 on the FAQ. "Innovation with Technology is the...
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So whats the point? Where is the element of surprise of UnConferences? With the CMS(You guys love calling it that, Its a three column wordpress :P) and Google,...
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If somebody wishes to take a glance at the sessions that were listed in the wiki. http://barcampbangalore.org/wiki/BCB7_Sessions I notice some topics like...
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Teraom, ... As much or as little as there is to share in "Watir". You never know you could get your coolest NLP ideas from a session on Indian English. The ...
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Harish, It was becoming essential for Barcamp to differentiate itself from all the other events in ... No. Doesn't make sense. What I have seen in BCB4 to 7 it...
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Ok. Lets look at some of the issues. 1. Element of Surprise. The primary point of having this is event has always been to learn and to connect. To discover...
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Harish, I would choose to take a balanced view. And I believe we can (still) have a balanced barcamp. We probably need to hear about the planner's view of...
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... Your CMS(Wordpress) Idea works well for a Confernce.. Where people wil go in expecting something.. And the content provided before hand.. ... This is...
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Harish and other planners... I hear you, your thoughts on focus and structure and everything else. May be I'll give it to you to an extent. I also sincerely...
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Its quite sad to note that this times BCB planners never asked for a consensus from the campers before going ahead with the final plans. All that has to be...
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Yes, i was surprised and little disappointed that BCB planners who were always open for suggestions and ideas decided to plan BCB8 all by *themselves*. I was...
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Jayanth, Throughout this conversation, your response to the arguments put across has been to mock and to belittle. An conscious attempt was made to set it...
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Since you are quoting my tweet, Let me quote one of your emails on the planners list.. This is being done.. Screening of sessions.. I just ask Why? And your...
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Guys,This thread is turning out to be a "Ranting" place now. Can we please stop this, and concentrate on making BarCamp a better place. In my personal opinion,...
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i really think that if the original intention is to have unconference, why restrict it to technical only. or should it cause yet another split? from the...
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Hello all, Barcamp is one of the very few events that I look forward to in Bengaluru, it is one of the those events where you meet people of various...
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@Swaroop and @Rajeev Lochan and @Sanjukta and everyone else Some of you have suggestions for the planners. What you need to understand is this. The current set...
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Well said Akash! --Kesava ________________________________ From: Akash <akashmahajan@...> To: bangalore_barcamp@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 19...
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