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RE: [beam] Hexapod

The "gate delays" are not a problem since short h-bridge glitches have low
energy. Anyway the turnon / turnoff times of the h-bridge are also different
so only a deliberate deadtime can cure all glitches.

By the way, your original post with the 139 "reversing" Z-bridge idea was
quite brilliant. You almost got it right but because it does not tristate,
you have to use a resistor to isolate the HC139 output to the h-bridge input
. In other words, use 2 input resistors for each h-bridge input as shown in
the PNCfree microcore with "reversing" 74HC139 h-bridge. Note the nifty
control of the enable line.
<<u139CORE.gif>>
There are several other variations on your hexapod circuit worth pursuing.
For example, your design uses a grounded master bicore and two slave
branches to generate a pair of waveforms each delayed from the master bicore
output waveforms by 90 degrees. These branches act as a slave bicore but
have independent delays and independent pulsewidths. However there is no
particular advantage to using branches compared to a slave bicore. In fact,
as you noted with branches you can get overlapping waveforms so then you
need a HC139 to avoid frying the h-bridge. Still independent control of the
slave wave could be useful.

So how about a bi-phase slave circuit similar to that Nv/Nu circuit used in
the powersmart head. It can be made phototropic with the addition of some
photodiodes just like a suspended master bicore as shown.

For a complete Hexapod circuit combine all these elements: the single ended
bi-phase slave output can be connected to the two halves of a HC139 and two
h-bridges each with independent reverse. This design gives you a complete
hexapod control circuit in TWO chips!

enjoy

wilf

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Piotter [SMTP:richfiles@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:50 PM
> To: BEAM
> Subject: Re: [beam] Hexapod
>
>
>
> Also, I have an aditional question. There is a slight, fraction of a
> second, delay between when an input enters an Nv and the output changes.
> With the two branches, there can be substancial delay, between loading
> and variations in component value. If I were to put an additional
> inverter at the end of one chain and cut the other, will the delay time
> of the second inverter switching after the first have an adverse effect
> on power coonsumption while the H-Bridge has the same signal for a split
> second (with no 139 installed). Is it a low enough effect to not
> adversely effect power consumption or the safety of the H-Bridges over
> an extended time?
>
>
> I think I'll do the PCB tommorow or the day after. Depends how bored I
> get and if I have enough dry transfers left for it.
>
>
>


Thu Sep 28, 2000 5:49 am

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I'm moving to my next project, which officialy, will be the first robot I build with reversing and turning capabilities built into the main circuitry during...
Richard Piotter
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Sep 25, 2000
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Very nice Richard! ONe thing however: would it be easier to tune if the bicore controlled the two leg motors directly, and the waist motor had that half a time...
Ben Hitchcock
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Sep 26, 2000
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the bicore portion is always 180 degrees out of phase, and safe for the H-bridges. the branch portions can exist for short times in the same state depending on...
Richard Piotter
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Sep 26, 2000
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Oh sorry, missed the second paragraph. I'm not so worried about it, being that I'll need to fill the chip anyway, requiring a second, and I already have a...
Richard Piotter
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Sep 26, 2000
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... Nope, it isn't. Select = H, all outputs forced to H. Select = L, one output is active low, depending on inputs. So, it looks as though you're going to fry...
Bruce Robinson
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Sep 26, 2000
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I've followed the advice below, and I think I have a reasonable circuit to work with. Feel free to look at the schematic to see if it looks right now. I'd like...
Richard Piotter
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Sep 26, 2000
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I tend to follow the low high stuff in my head. My mapping skills also seem to work to mentaly image schematic and PCB layouts, and convert between the two....
Richard Piotter
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Sep 27, 2000
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... Lessee. Switching time for a 74HC14 powered with 4.5 volts is 15 nanoseconds MAX. I'd say you don't need to worry about it, Richard :) Actually, this is...
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The "gate delays" are not a problem since short h-bridge glitches have low energy. Anyway the turnon / turnoff times of the h-bridge are also different so only...
Wilf Rigter
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Sep 28, 2000
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Here is the detail on the biphase slave. <<biphase.gif>>...
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Sep 28, 2000
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