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Mind you there are hundreds of such KHURAFAAT against each sect   Message List  
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Dear Col Riaz Jafri,  I being Muslim (of no sect) takes an opportunity  to reply you &  I am sorry for replying this of your mail which is purely for Mr. abu Sufian: My comments are in Red:

Riaz Jafri <jafri@...>
wrote:
Abu Suffian:  (I am sorry, I am writing it in English and you being a journalist I hope will understand it).
 
May I request you not to copy me your mails to Asad Imam and others.  It looks your agenda is not to find truth but propagate hate amongst us all.
Copy pasting of someones saying is not propaganda but to inform others that what is truth! because all most 99% people believe in heresay.
 
You have already done enough damage and if some one relaliated with similar insinuations against other sects written by JAHIL ulema, there will be no end to it. 
Dear Sir, Jahalat is not that I am pointing out some one 's mistake, the well known meaning of Jahalat is that , " A person without authentication says or writes some thing, which can be called lie if not proved, the the behaviour of "Jahil" & "Aqalmand" listenrs start as follows:-.
1. The listner listen & passes it on (in words or writting):
 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:26 V:233)  They pour Al-Sam'aa (hearsay vanities), and most of them are liars. 
 
2. The behaviour of learned people (Aqalmand would be):
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:12 V:02) We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an, in order that you may become "Aqalmand".
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:25 V:63)  And "Aqalmand" (the servants) of Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the "Jahil" address them, they say, "SALAM !";
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:25 V:72)  They donot evidence falsehood, and, if they pass by futility, they pass by it with honourable (avoidance);
 
 
 Now these heresays have been poured into the books and being forwarded from a group of "Jahil" people, and again the listener without using "Aqal" listen these for the reason it might be "good" for them:-  
 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:24 V:11)  Those who brought forward the lie are a group among yourselves: think it not to be an evil to you; On the contrary it is good for you:
1. To every man among them (by listening & believeing) earned the sin, and
2. To him who took on himself the lead among them (by narrating others for their wrong guidance),
3. will be a penalty grievous.
 
Mind you there are hundreds of such KHURAFAAT against each sect. 
Yes because of the Allah's Commandment No: (Al-Kitaab- Ch:24 V:11)
 
If you want to discuss alone with me without copying the mail to others to spread hate I am ready to take you on. 
Why we join group, to share good & non-good, about prevailing things arround us! So why alone? If you do not have patiance to listen non-goods the please do not tell good to others You all letter to editor for any one among us may come under non-good.  
 
I do not want to hurt any one else. 
One  do hurt thoughts writting or speaking, to either who favour the govt or oppose the govt.
 
So let it be a plain simple man to man talk between us two.
This truth only imploy in personal talks ONLY.
 
Mind you, as I have said I do not believe in any Firqa,
The followers of Muhammad(PBUH) have three Firqa's:-
1. One who follow his companion Abubakr (R.A) & his chain.
2. Second who  follow his companion Ali (R.A) & his chain. 
3. Third who  follow only MUHAMMAD(PBUH) through Kitaab Allah (Al-Quraan) & reject
a. All saying refered to which MUHAMMAD(PBUH) or
b. His companions,
Whcih contradicts the Saying of ALLAH mentioned in Kitaab ALLAH.
Which were compiled by follower of Shia Imam Jafar al Sadiq, (Malik, Tibri(Tibristan), Bukhari, Muslim(Neshapori), Abudaood(Seestanie), Ibn-e-maja (Qazveenie), Tirmizi, Nasai (Khurasani)  etc, etc )
 The reaso of rejection is mentioned in ALLH'S Commandnent told us by MUHAMMAD(PBUH):- 
 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:5 V:41) : O Messenger let not those grieve you who efforts with each other in rejection, among those:
1.  who declare them peaceful with their lips but whose hearts have no accepted peace, or
2. it be among the "Hadu" men These (claimed peaceful ) will listen to any lie, Even listen from those who have never met you.
3. They change Al-Kalaam (The speech ) after this from their (right) places;
4. they say "If ye are given like this take it but if not beware:"
5. (Now because of their this act) If anyone's trial is intended by Allah you has no authority in the least for him against Allah.
6. For such it is not Allah's will to purify their hearts.
7. For them there is disgrace in this world and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.
  
 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:17 V:73 to 75)
73 - And their purpose was to tempt you away from that which We have revealed unto you to substitute in Our name something quite different: (in that case) they would certainly have made you (their) friend!
74 - And if We have not given you the strength you would have indeed inclined to leave toward them a little thing (in substitution).
75 - In that case We should have made you taste a double portion (of punishment) in this life and an equal double in death: and moreover you would have found none to help thee against Us!

Note: IRANIAN (Tibri (Tibristan), Bukhari, Muslim(Neshapori), Abudaood(Seestanie), Ibn-e-maja (Qazveenie), Tirmizi, Nasai (Khurasani) tempted themselves (away from that which ALLAH have revealed unto MUHAMMAD), to substitute in MUHAMMAD's name something very very different to misguide people

as such I will quote you from various books written mostly by Sunni Hazrat. Just as a starters and a very mild one.  (Please all others to note.  I do not believe in it myself, but it is written in the books and it is just for the consumption of Abu Suffian only.  Please all, I request you once again to underastand as to why I am doing it.  Just to put Abu Suffian in his proper place)
 
Okay:  Mr. Abu Suffian.  I will not talk aboutt religion or beliefs.  I will just quote historical facts for you - ONLY YOU to reply)
 
I am happy that you called it historical facts & not the Hadees:-
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:45 V 6 to 10)
6 - These are the Ayaats of Allah which We recites on to you with truth: then in which "Hadees" will they believe after (rejecting) Allah and His Ayah?
7 - Woe to each sinful Dealer in Falsehoods (of historical facts).
8 - He hears the Ayaats of Allah recited him yet is obstinate and lofty as if he had not heard them: then announce to him a Penalty Grievous! ?
9 - And when he learns something from our Ayaats, he takes them in jest: for such there will be a humiliating Penalty?
10 - In front of them is Hell: and of no profit to them is anything they may have earned nor any Aulia they have taken other than Allah: for them is a tremendous Penalty?
 
 
Was Holy Prophet (SAWAW) deeply anguished and went into seclusion for one month in Madina, not speaking to any one, and all alone by himself.  This state lasted for a month or so till only Hazrat Umar (R.A.) could pick the courage and ask him (SAWAW) the reason for it? 
 
    What was his (SAWAW) reply?  Wasn't it, "Go and ask your daughter the cause for it". 
    Was there not the rumour among the people of Madina during that month that  Rasulullah              
    (SAWAW) had divorced all his wives?
 
 
Abu Suffian,
 
(1)    Is above correct or wrong? 
Dear Sir, now you can honestly decide in the light of ALLAH's few commandments I mentioned in this post that what is correct & what is wrong!
 
(2)    If correct, who had made the Holy Prophet that upset and hurt that he did not speak to any one for one month?
 
(3)    What does Allah (SWT) say about those who hurt (naraaz) or cause anguish to Rasul ullah (SAWAW)?  Kia Allah (SWT) un se raazi hai jo Rasul (SAWAW) ko naraaz karte hain?
It has been decided by ALLAH, read the following commandment: 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:58 V: 22)
You will not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.
 
And tocertain people, it is historical fact & for whom those believe in ALLAH's commandments it is historical Lie.
 
      
Sirf - Abu Suffian jawab de.
I am sorry it is not only the Abusuffian, the plea of burdon lies on to every, To & CC 
 
Dear All: Once again, please forgive me. I do not want to behave like Abu Suffian.  The above ONE inastance is quoted just to tell Abu Suffian - not to behave like Abu Suffian of Mecca before he was the last one to accepted Islam after Makkah was conquerred.
Dear Sir, so you deny this commandment of ALLAH:-
 
(Al-Kitaab- Ch:9 V: 100) Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him:-
1. The first from initials from Muhajireen ( immigrants) and  
2. Ansaar (of those who gave immigrants aid) and
3. (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds,
For them hath He prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that is the supreme felicity.
 
There is no use in digging the dirt.  PLEASE STOP IT.
Dear Sir, I agree the dirt raised by :_
1. Those who do not follow the ALLAH's Commandment said to us by MUHAMMAD(PBUH).
2. Those who follow the liers of historical Fact (wrongs) .
3. The who reject the commandments mentioned in Kitaab ALLAH.
4. The who love the commandments mentioned in Kitaab mon doon ALLAH.
5. Those who : And among people bargain Lahve –Al-Hadees (useless Hadees) to astray from Allah's path (Al-Kitaab) without knowledge, and to take it (path of Allah) for a mockery; these shall have an abasing chastisement (Al-Kitaab- Ch:31 V:6)
 
From NAEEM to  
 
Col. Jafri (Retd) 


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