I think the problem I had with mine Pete was the fact they were only 30mm, if?
I ever get another pair it will be a bit bigger.
I have a Nikon Monarch 8x36 for my travel, daytime bino and I,m very happy with
it other than the silly lens and objective covers, no such thing as the perfect
bino, though they get close at times, I agree, stick with a good brand name or
retailer.
Also worth considering are new old stock binos,I picked up a pair of Pentax
porros at the weekend 8x40, they were about 10yrs old, brand new,wide
angle,Japan made, even the prisms are held in place with a cage and screws, at
night even in my light polluted area they gave a very nice image, got them for
half price,their are some good buys out there at the moment, Zen Ray have a very
nice roof, also Garret are offering a triplet roof at under $200, lots to choose
from, cheers Dave.



--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "Pete Hallock" <pfghwest@...> wrote:
>
> Indeed. The lady of the house got a surprise Canon 10x30IS Christmas present
from Moi, and it was a risk. A surprise has to be a surprise. She was using
Swift 8.5x44, which are dream binoculars for birding and astronomy too, but she
only uses the Canon 10x30 IS now. She is an avid birder. Wales for Puffin,Costa
Rica for hummingbirds. "CR" as my oldest daughter calls it..where she is
visiting with her family for the fifth time looking at property. When she got
the Canon's, I went out on the Deck, looked up at Albireo ( B Cyn) and split
it..standing, looking nearly straight up, no support. Try that without IS. And,
yes, go "Buy" name ! Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Zeiss, these are companies that
respect who they are, for God sake. Respect who they are. Junk from others are
in their mix to sort out. Anyway, try with a money back if not local look see.
Yes, besides the Mainland, some Zeiss are assembled in Hungary we noticed on one
box.
> CS,
> Pete
>
>
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "oak_conkers" <oak_conkers@> wrote:
> >
> > -Regarding image stabilisation, I owned a pair of the 10x30,s for a while
and always thought that the system added weight to the bino hense the need for
stabilisation, also the long term reliability of the electronics is a bit of an
unknown, some people have had years of use with no problems others not so lucky,
you mention boating, well water and electronics do not mix well.
> > I got rid of mine because of the fact they were only 30mm and 30mm can
only show so much however good a 30mm it is, the second factor was battery
consumption in cold weather.
> > Zeiss are very nice however I see that they also have jumped on the "Made
in China" bandwagon. In a compact bino a waterproof purged reverse porro is well
worth considering, in a larger model the Pentax 12x50 has had a lot of
favourable comments about it, the big problem is that their is so much to choose
from now, the task can be overwhelming, good luck, Dave.
> > -- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "cucmbere" <bobprotuder@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am considering some binos, a Zeiss 10x25 classic compact and a 15x50
> > > Canon Image Stabilized. I have looked through the Zeiss and can say that I
like the clarity of the image. I have not looked through the 15x50`s but I have
tried the 12x36IS from canon and even though I prefer the clarity in the 10x50`s
I cant help but be won over by the steady image of the canons because then the
image is steady for more detailed analasys. The 2 times axtra mag. is really
noticable as is the feeling of being involved in the scene because of the canons
extra apparent FOV of the eyelens I think.
> > >
> > > I have bad vision and I want to be able to see better with the use of
binos in any situation. I am advised that 10X magnification is about the limit
for being able to hand hold binos and any larger and/or IS technology is for
more professional use but I am thinking with my poor vision that I would really
benefit seeing details woth higher mag. binos.
> > >
> > > Will I be able to see more clearly with 15 times of the canons or perhaps
I would be equally impressed with a higher mag bino without the IS! . My use of
them would be for boating, hiking, sports and various other activities. The
ziess is compact, light and easy to use. Do I really need the image stabilzed
binos? The IS seems to win me over for being able to see clearer the fine
details.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this?
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> >
>