Sorry to hear that they didn,t work out for you, my only complaint is the
weight, a bit heavy, I also think that Meades claim that they compete with high
end European brands should be taken with a pinch of salt,however at that price
they are very very nice, I have seen worse buys for more money.Cheers Dave.

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "Pete" <pfghwest@...> wrote:
>
> I returned these very nice Meade Montanta 7x42 Roofs and explained to Meade my
problem that I could not find out the IPD range, so I gambled and bought them.
They gave me a full refund less my return shipping cost. The cost of the
binoculars and the shipping cost to me. I consider that a fair transaction.
These are well worth the price if you can use them.
> Ckear Skies,
> Pete
>

By mistake I sent wrong email to the group. Sorry.

I also saw M44 that night. It was very ptetty too.


Moving from aldebaran to the apex star where the V of Hyades joins, the wine
glass is a visible. Symmetrical stars 3 by 3, one side is brighter than the
other . One star in middle. One on top of glass. One in line but further below
the glass.



> --- On Sat, 28/11/09, paolomorini <paolomorini@
> tele2.it> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: paolomorini <paolomorini@
> tele2.it>
>
> > Subject: [Binocular Astronomy] Re: 20x100
>
> > To: binocularastronomy@
> yahoogroups. com
>
> > Date: Saturday, 28 November, 2009, 17:57
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> >            Hi Ali,
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> >
>
> > I myself have a 20x100 binoculars, a Vixen Galaxias -
> I got
>
> > in year 2000.
>
> >
>
> > Extending Bull's Horns you got M35 in Gemini from
> one
>
> > side (the same horn leading to M1) and M37 in Auriga
> from
>
> > the other side.
>
> >
>
> > I think there is no comet in the sky so bright to be
>
> > glanced passing by - but I could be wrong.
>
> >
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> >
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> >
>
> > I have no info about "Little wine glass"
> asterism
>
> > in Hyades, can you provide some info or a link with a
>
> > map/sketch?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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> > Thank you so much and Clear Skies
>
> >
>
> >
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> >
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> > Paolo
>
> >
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> >
>
> >
>
> > --- In binocularastronomy@
>
> > yahoogroups. com, Ali Khan <ak6666666@. ..>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Last night I had great time with 20x100.
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> > >
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> > > M45 was gorgeous. About a hundred stars were
> visible.
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> > > Little wine glass formation in Hyades was also
>
> > pretty.
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> > > Outside Taurus's horns, I saw a glob and a
> little
>
> > lower and to left a fuzzy thing. Probably another
> glob
>
> > (comet??). M1 is near left horn. Didnt know or would
> have
>
> > looked for it.
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > M42 was fine. Made out 3 stars of the trapezium.
> The
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> > running man was easily visible.
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> > > Just made out Mel 111 but it was too big for
> view.
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WOW! OK!

Ali Khan
C/o Mr. Ejaz Ahmed Wafa,
63-C, Regal Street #13,
The Mall,
Lahore 54000,
Pakistan.

Wow! I can't wait!

Ali

--- On Sat, 28/11/09, paolomorini <paolomorini@...> wrote:

> From: paolomorini <paolomorini@...>
> Subject: [Binocular Astronomy] Re: 20x100
> To: binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 28 November, 2009, 17:57
>
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>            Hi Ali,
>
> I myself have a 20x100 binoculars, a Vixen Galaxias - I got
> in year 2000.
>
> Extending Bull's Horns you got M35 in Gemini from one
> side (the same horn leading to M1) and M37 in Auriga from
> the other side.
>
> I think there is no comet in the sky so bright to be
> glanced passing by - but I could be wrong.
>
>
>
> I have no info about "Little wine glass" asterism
> in Hyades, can you provide some info or a link with a
> map/sketch?
>
>
>
> Thank you so much and Clear Skies
>
>
>
> Paolo
>
>
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@
> yahoogroups. com, Ali Khan <ak6666666@. ..>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Last night I had great time with 20x100.
>
> >
>
> > M45 was gorgeous. About a hundred stars were visible.
>
> >
>
> > Little wine glass formation in Hyades was also
> pretty.
>
> >
>
> > Outside Taurus's horns, I saw a glob and a little
> lower and to left a fuzzy thing. Probably another glob
> (comet??). M1 is near left horn. Didnt know or would have
> looked for it.
>
> >
>
> > M42 was fine. Made out 3 stars of the trapezium. The
> running man was easily visible.
>
> >
>
> > Just made out Mel 111 but it was too big for view.
>
> >
>
>
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>
>
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Hi Ali,
I myself have a 20x100 binoculars, a Vixen Galaxias - I got in year 2000.
Extending Bull's Horns you got M35 in Gemini from one side (the same horn
leading to M1) and M37 in Auriga from the other side.
I think there is no comet in the sky so bright to be glanced passing by - but I
could be wrong.

I have no info about "Little wine glass" asterism in Hyades, can you provide
some info or a link with a map/sketch?

Thank you so much and Clear Skies

      Paolo


--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, Ali Khan <ak6666666@...> wrote:
>
> Last night I had great time with 20x100.
>
> M45 was gorgeous. About a hundred stars were visible.
>
> Little wine glass formation in Hyades was also pretty.
>
> Outside Taurus's horns, I saw a glob and a little lower and to left a fuzzy
thing. Probably another glob (comet??). M1 is near left horn. Didnt know or
would have looked for it.
>
> M42 was fine. Made out 3 stars of the trapezium. The running man was easily
visible.
>
> Just made out Mel 111 but it was too big for view.
>

Last night I had great time with 20x100.

M45 was gorgeous. About a hundred stars were visible.

Little wine glass formation in Hyades was also pretty.

Outside Taurus's horns, I saw a glob and a little lower and to left a fuzzy
thing. Probably another glob (comet??). M1 is near left horn. Didnt know or
would have looked for it.

M42 was fine. Made out 3 stars of the trapezium. The running man was easily
visible.

Just made out Mel 111 but it was too big for view.

Robert,

A conversion to right angle would in most cases add length that would not allow
eyepieces to reach focus as the focal plane would likely be about at least 2 or
more inches in front of the best infinity focus point of the binoculars (all the
way in).  The most obvious solution would be new objectives that would have a
longer focal length than the original objectives by the same amount as the
additional distance you would be adding at the back end.  The less steep light
cone would cause problems in that the light cone would be clipped by a greater
degree by internal baffles and prisms which if not already undersized for the
light cone would now become undersized for the light cone.

Unfortunately I believe the best solution would be to get a pair of binoculars
already designed as a right angle pair.

Barry Simon

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "robertward858" <robertward858@...>
wrote:
>
> I would like to convert my 15x70's to a right angle binocular or a
> right angle binocular telescope. So far , I have been able to get
> an image that is horizontal, which is not useful. What is needed
> is a way to bend the light path 90 degrees up and also take the
> image from horizontal to vertical. An Anchor Optics catalog lists
> a porro-abbe prism that will take a vertical image and turn it
> horizontally. Does any one know if that prism could perform the
> opposite feat of turning a horizontal image vertically ?
> Thanks
> robertward858
>

I would like to convert my 15x70's to a right angle binocular or a
right angle binocular telescope. So far , I have been able to get
an image that is horizontal, which is not useful. What is needed
is a way to bend the light path 90 degrees up and also take the
image from horizontal to vertical. An Anchor Optics catalog lists
a porro-abbe prism that will take a vertical image and turn it
horizontally. Does any one know if that prism could perform the
opposite feat of turning a horizontal image vertically ?
Thanks
robertward858

I returned these very nice Meade Montanta 7x42 Roofs and explained to Meade my
problem that I could not find out the IPD range, so I gambled and bought them.
They gave me a full refund less my return shipping cost. The cost of the
binoculars and the shipping cost to me. I consider that a fair transaction.
These are well worth the price if you can use them.
Ckear Skies,
Pete

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "oak_conkers" <oak_conkers@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Pete, I sent the reply at the weekend, I use Yahoo and have had some
strange things happening also, checked again the IPD and on my pair they are
around 59-60mm not 62 as I stated earlier,sorry for the bad info, all you can do
is try them when they arrive, good luck, Dave.
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "Pete" <pfghwest@> wrote:
> >
> > Dave, How did I miss it ! I checked Yahoo Mail this monring..Nothing, then
checked just now (2124 Hrs. California Standard Time..11/03)..and there was your
very detailed email about the IPD of Meade Montana 7x42 Binocular. I do not
recall a binocular with a minimum as large as 62mm. Amazing. Mine will be here
soon, but It looks like they may be returned if your measure is anywhere near
the 62mm minimum, or if Cathy's is what she measured. Worth the gamble for a
very interesting binocular.
> > Thank you very much, Dave !
> > CS,
> > Pete
> >
> > --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "oak_conkers" <oak_conkers@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Pete, did you e-mail me about the IPD? I did send a reply, did you get
it?, if I remember correctly min= 62mm, max=75m, cheers Dave.
> > >
> > > --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "Pete" <pfghwest@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I ordered them yesterday. Thirty day return privilege, so I can send
them back if the IPD is not suitable. Out just the return shipping.
> > > > Could not find out the IPD range from the web site or talking to the
Meade Technician. Not on their Computers.
> > > > So, we will let the fourm know when we have them to measure. Nikon seem
to have a minimum of 56mm as does Swift, as I recall.
> > > > Clear Skies,
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Maroof called me for directions around Asar time. He was near Noor Jehan /
Jehangir Tomb. I couldn't help much as I was not familiar with that area.
He asked locals and managed to reach the school well in time.
I set off when it was dark. The first thing which I noticed was the big
traffic jam at the Ravi bridge. The bridge should be 3 times wider.
After the bridge, I asked a pedestrian about directions to Jehangir's
Tomb. He explained but it was confusing. It seemed he was telling me to go
against the traffic coming from the opposite direction. I continued, not
clear about his directions. Soon I saw a big road crossing. I asked again
and was told to move to the extreme right lane, to go against the onslaught
of traffic. How odd. I made it safely to the lane. Asked for directions
again.
Saw a well lit and lively place. Asked a sitting cyclist about the Tomb
and he gave fresh directions. The well lit place was Noor Jehan's Tomb.
Jehangir's tomb was totally without lights. Stark contrast to Noor Jehan's
Tomb.
Little further I saw railway lines. Turned left. On my left was a deep
area, flooded with water. Turned left again and found myself on a broad,
well constructed, straight, well lit road. Tall sodium light poles on the
left placed at regular intervals going straight ahead towards the vanishing
point. I asked a pedestrian again about the school. He guided very well. I
offered to give him a ride but he politely refused. He had a good kilometer
ahead to walk and he preferred walking. That felt odd. The road was so high
from the surrounding plains that the tree top canopies just reached the
road level. Was this road also acting like a flood barrier? Perhaps.
Soon saw a big two storied school building on my left with rows of
classes. The area on the right was totally deserted. The air was suddenly
much cleaner and fresher. Lahore gets most of its fresh air from the west
and Shahdara gets it first, pristine, unpolluted, rich with oxygen, free of
dust, co2 and exhaust gases. I thought that the people of this place were
lucky to have this air all year. No wonder the school students did well in
their studies.
While I was slowly searching for the school gate, a lady sitting by the
roadside told me to continue and that I was on the right path. Talked with
Maroof sahib and told him about a gate from which many girls were emerging.
Parked my motorbike. As my steering and ignition locks had been badly
picked by neighboring boys, I was afraid that someone would steal my bike.
They could be open with even a screw driver. As only I knew about the
locks, I left it parked there unattended. With some effort entered this
flooded gate. Soon I saw the gathering and the multi media screen of
Khwarzimic. Many girls were gathered around the screen. Found Maroof Sahib,
Umair, Sabeh, Wasif, Naseer Khan from Afghanistan and rest of the
Khwarzimic team, all familiar faces. 14" Celestron inch was being
assembled. A tiny reflector, about 5 inch diameter, was also there on its
short tripod. I learned that it was recently donated to Khwarzimic by some
philanthropist. It was short in height and I thought I would have to kneel
to reach the eyepiece.
I went to Maroof Sahib. His 5 inch was a little distance further ahead on
the lawn. A group of girls had gathered around him. In a long line they
were looking at the Moon one by one and asking questions and Maroof sahib
was answering questions. This eyepiece was at the proper height. I left
this group undisturbed and went to see what was happening near the screen.
Due to unadjusted counterweights, the 14" was out of balance and so its
motors were unable to take it to the Moon. As soon as Umair restored
balance, the scope moved as he willed. Magnified Moon was on the screen.
Marias, hills, shadows, craters of all sizes, streaks etc. Umair explained
various crater shapes and formations, and groups of tiny craters within
larger craters. The students were very well behaved, their teachers were
around, and there were questions and also a small poetry session.
A few times I looked over my shoulder to see how Maroof was doing and each
time I found him looking at me. Wow! What remote control effect he had.
Later, near pack up time, I went to him and he said he felt tired standing
and talking all the time and would have liked some help from me to answer
the questions while he sat and rested.
The teachers and organizers took us inside a hall and treated us all with
tea and snack boxes. We chatted and sipped tea. Was it pink tea? Cant say
for sure. The atmosphere was cheerful, lively and we enjoyed the food.
While outside, Maroof Sahib showed us his little lap top which was called
atom or something. Umair asked us names of stars. There was some confusion
whether Deneb was the beak of the swan or the tail. Maroof said tail. He
showed it on his laptop. Umair asked me the name of a bright star and I
couldn't answer. After some more chatting, we were all on our way back. My
bike was still there, untouched.
A very enjoyable experience in all.


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Following is a report of a visit to a school some time back.



Maroof called me for directions around Asar time. He was near Noor Jehan /
Jehangir Tomb. I couldn't help much as I was not familiar with that area.
He asked locals and managed to reach the school well in time.
I set off when it was dark. The first thing which I noticed was the big
traffic jam at the Ravi bridge. The bridge should be 3 times wider.
After the bridge, I asked a pedestrian about directions to Jehangir's
Tomb. He explained but it was confusing. It seemed he was telling me to go
against the traffic coming from the opposite direction. I continued, not
clear about his directions. Soon I saw a big road crossing. I asked again
and was told to move to the extreme right lane, to go against the onslaught
of traffic. How odd. I made it safely to the lane. Asked for directions
again.
Saw a well lit and lively place. Asked a sitting cyclist about the Tomb
and he gave fresh directions. The well lit place was Noor Jehan's Tomb.
Jehangir's tomb was totally without lights. Stark contrast to Noor Jehan's
Tomb.
Little further I saw railway lines. Turned left. On my left was a deep
area, flooded with water. Turned left again and found myself on a broad,
well constructed, straight, well lit road. Tall sodium light poles on the
left placed at regular intervals going straight ahead towards the vanishing
point. I asked a pedestrian again about the school. He guided very well. I
offered to give him a ride but he politely refused. He had a good kilometer
ahead to walk and he preferred walking. That felt odd. The road was so high
from the surrounding plains that the tree top canopies just reached the
road level. Was this road also acting like a flood barrier? Perhaps.
Soon saw a big two storied school building on my left with rows of
classes. The area on the right was totally deserted. The air was suddenly
much cleaner and fresher. Lahore gets most of its fresh air from the west
and Shahdara gets it first, pristine, unpolluted, rich with oxygen, free of
dust, co2 and exhaust gases. I thought that the people of this place were
lucky to have this air all year. No wonder the school students did well in
their studies.
While I was slowly searching for the school gate, a lady sitting by the
roadside told me to continue and that I was on the right path. Talked with
Maroof sahib and told him about a gate from which many girls were emerging.
Parked my motorbike. As my steering and ignition locks had been badly
picked by neighboring boys, I was afraid that someone would steal my bike.
They could be open with even a screw driver. As only I knew about the
locks, I left it parked there unattended. With some effort entered this
flooded gate. Soon I saw the gathering and the multi media screen of
Khwarzimic. Many girls were gathered around the screen. Found Maroof Sahib,
Umair, Sabeh, Wasif, Naseer Khan from Afghanistan and rest of the
Khwarzimic team, all familiar faces. 14" Celestron inch was being
assembled. A tiny reflector, about 5 inch diameter, was also there on its
short tripod. I learned that it was recently donated to Khwarzimic by some
philanthropist. It was short in height and I thought I would have to kneel
to reach the eyepiece.
I went to Maroof Sahib. His 5 inch was a little distance further ahead on
the lawn. A group of girls had gathered around him. In a long line they
were looking at the Moon one by one and asking questions and Maroof sahib
was answering questions. This eyepiece was at the proper height. I left
this group undisturbed and went to see what was happening near the screen.
Due to unadjusted counterweights, the 14" was out of balance and so its
motors were unable to take it to the Moon. As soon as Umair restored
balance, the scope moved as he willed. Magnified Moon was on the screen.
Marias, hills, shadows, craters of all sizes, streaks etc. Umair explained
various crater shapes and formations, and groups of tiny craters within
larger craters. The students were very well behaved, their teachers were
around, and there were questions and also a small poetry session.
A few times I looked over my shoulder to see how Maroof was doing and each
time I found him looking at me. Wow! What remote control effect he had.
Later, near pack up time, I went to him and he said he felt tired standing
and talking all the time and would have liked some help from me to answer
the questions while he sat and rested.
The teachers and organizers took us inside a hall and treated us all with
tea and snack boxes. We chatted and sipped tea. Was it pink tea? Cant say
for sure. The atmosphere was cheerful, lively and we enjoyed the food.
While outside, Maroof Sahib showed us his little lap top which was called
atom or something. Umair asked us names of stars. There was some confusion
whether Deneb was the beak of the swan or the tail. Maroof said tail. He
showed it on his laptop. Umair asked me the name of a bright star and I
couldn't answer. After some more chatting, we were all on our way back. My
bike was still there, untouched.
A very enjoyable experience in all.


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Just got a pair of the 20x90's and they are superb.  Have them mounted on the
Universal Astronomics Unimount Light Deluxe.  Star images are extremely sharp
(almost to edge of field of view), great color, just amazing. Orion Nebula just
comes alive.  Had tried the Garrett Signature 15x70s but not enough power and
very heavy.  Great customer service at Garrett.

Jonathan W. Cross
Vienna, Virginia

I see M45, M42, Beehive and tiupple star in leo's head almost every other
night.


Ali


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Hey Eugene,

While it is not my cup of tea, there is a group of folks who actually observe
meteors with binoculars and telescopically! as well:

http://www.meteorobs.org/telescopic.html

I often see and enjoy the stray meteor or satellite in my view when I am viewing
w/ binoculars or telescope.  Even when looking for a faint fuzzy, I can't stop
myself from tracking the stray, and I invariably add quite a few minutes to my
search.

Rick

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "Eugene" <ecart@...> wrote:
>
> Raymund,
> I find that whenever I am out bino observing the stars for any length of time,
seeing a meteor shoot by in the field of view is almost a guarantee (Same goes
for orbiting satellites). But just sitting back and looking at the sky without
the aid of binoculars, the shooting stars come and go so fast that it is very
hard (for me at least) to see one, bring the binos up to my eyes and see
anything but the location of where it was.  I guess, from time to time, the
meteor will be large enough so that it's trail is visible for a second or two,
but for the most part they are just too fast.
> Clear skies,
> Eugene
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, rj_y_ang <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone here into binocular observation of faint meteors?
> >
> > Raymund
> >
>

Raymund,
I find that whenever I am out bino observing the stars for any length of time,
seeing a meteor shoot by in the field of view is almost a guarantee (Same goes
for orbiting satellites). But just sitting back and looking at the sky without
the aid of binoculars, the shooting stars come and go so fast that it is very
hard (for me at least) to see one, bring the binos up to my eyes and see
anything but the location of where it was.  I guess, from time to time, the
meteor will be large enough so that it's trail is visible for a second or two,
but for the most part they are just too fast.
Clear skies,
Eugene

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, rj_y_ang <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone here into binocular observation of faint meteors?
>
> Raymund
>

I thought about it for this week.. but clouds killed the idea....... Lounge
chair was out and ready... for me.. Id have to drag out the sleeping bag too! a
little cool here.


Did witness a meteor coming across on Monday (Nice orange red fireball)....
Nothing like Utah sky show this week.


Phil
Lat: 40.8367633
Long: -74.1768412








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From: rj_y_ang <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 8:23:05 PM
Subject: [Binocular Astronomy] Binocular Meteor Observing


Anyone here into binocular observation of faint meteors?

Raymund







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Anyone here into binocular observation of faint meteors?

Raymund

Thanks.
Yes I will be on watch for them. They will peak around 2:30 am local time here
tonight.
A few posts ago there was an excellent account of an observing session by a
newcomer. from South of Spain. Great! Keep them coming. English was flawless
too.

AliLahore Pakistan

--- On Mon, 16/11/09, Cathy DeViney <cathy@...> wrote:

From: Cathy DeViney <cathy@...>
Subject: [Binocular Astronomy] Leonid meteor shower to peak Tuesday
To: "binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com" <binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com>
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again, welcome to Binocular Astronomy,

sounds like you had a good night with good equipment
I hope that you continue to report your observations.


edj



--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "oak_conkers" <oak_conkers@...>
wrote:
>
> Salva, welcome to the group, no problems with your English, your post was most
interesting and informative, It just shows what can be done with a binocular and
interest in the night sky, cheers , Dave in Canada.
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, Salva Segura <salvasegura@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > this is my first post. I come from Seville, in Spain, and my English is not
> > good...
> >
> > I spent last weekend with family in a rural cottage in Sierra de Aracena
> > (South of Spain). I took a pair of Fujinon 16x70 and the book "Binocular
> > Astronomy" by Gary Seronik. It was raining on Friday, buy I could observe on
> > Saturday, between 20:00 and the Moon rise. I didn't take any notes but I
> > remember I could see everything in September to November pages, except two
> > objects...
> >
> > First, I observed open clusters *NGC 7243* and *NGC 7209 in Lacerta. It was
> > more difficult for me to recognize the constellation than to find the
> > clusters, because I had never done it before. The first one seemed to be
> > broken in two, I'm not sure. I could see the second one more easily.*
> >
> > In Cepheus, the open cluster *NGC 6939 *and the galaxy *NGC 6946*. I don't
> > remember nothing particularly interesting (I'll take notes next time...)
> >
> > Also in Cepheus, the variable stars *mu Cep* (Garnet Star) and *delta Cep*.
> > I had never paid attention to variables, but spent some time comparing
> > magnitudes with the comparison stars in the book. Mu Cep is far from its
> > minimum so it was easy to identify. I suppose estimating magnitudes is a
> > question of practice, but I could hardly distinguish the 4.3 mag star from
> > the 4.7...
> >
> > In Cassiopeia, the open clusters *M52*, *NGC 7789*, *NGC 457* (the E.T.
> > Cluster), *M103* y *NGC 663. I could easily see, in the E.T. Cluster,  the
> > eyes, the little body and even the finger... Cassiopeia is wonderful through
> > binoculars.*
> >
> > **The galaxies *M31*, *M32 *and *M110 *in Andromeda. I think I had never
> > paid attention to M32 (M31 is so wonderful...) It looks quite stellar
> > through binoculars
> >
> > Also in Andromeda, the open cluster *NGC 752 *and the double star *56 And*.
> >
> > The carbon star *TX Psc*. It was interesting to recognize the Circlet,
> > impossible to see from my home with unaided eye.
> >
> > Globular clusters *M15 *and *M2*.
> >
> > The first object I could not find was *NGC 7293*, th Helix Nebula. I spent
> > quite a lot of time but there were some light pollution from Cortegana, a
> > small village 5 Km to the SSW.
> >
> > The other object I could not see was the globular cluster *NGC 288*, in
> > Sculptor. I could see, in the same field of view the galaxy *NGC 253*, very
> > elongated but some high clouds came and didn't let me see the globular
> > cluster.
> >
> > Besides these objects I showed the next ones to the landlord and his child,
> > who came to solve a little problem with the boiler: *Jupiter* with Calixto
> > and Ganimedes at one side and Io at the other, M31, the *Pleiades*, the
*Double
> > Cluster in Perseus*, M15, *M27* (at first I showed them *M71* by mistake). I
> > wanted to show them a little bit of everything... What they liked most was
> > Jupiter (curious) and, of course, the laser...
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Salva Segura.
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Salva, welcome to the group, no problems with your English, your post was most
interesting and informative, It just shows what can be done with a binocular and
interest in the night sky, cheers , Dave in Canada.

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, Salva Segura <salvasegura@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> this is my first post. I come from Seville, in Spain, and my English is not
> good...
>
> I spent last weekend with family in a rural cottage in Sierra de Aracena
> (South of Spain). I took a pair of Fujinon 16x70 and the book "Binocular
> Astronomy" by Gary Seronik. It was raining on Friday, buy I could observe on
> Saturday, between 20:00 and the Moon rise. I didn't take any notes but I
> remember I could see everything in September to November pages, except two
> objects...
>
> First, I observed open clusters *NGC 7243* and *NGC 7209 in Lacerta. It was
> more difficult for me to recognize the constellation than to find the
> clusters, because I had never done it before. The first one seemed to be
> broken in two, I'm not sure. I could see the second one more easily.*
>
> In Cepheus, the open cluster *NGC 6939 *and the galaxy *NGC 6946*. I don't
> remember nothing particularly interesting (I'll take notes next time...)
>
> Also in Cepheus, the variable stars *mu Cep* (Garnet Star) and *delta Cep*.
> I had never paid attention to variables, but spent some time comparing
> magnitudes with the comparison stars in the book. Mu Cep is far from its
> minimum so it was easy to identify. I suppose estimating magnitudes is a
> question of practice, but I could hardly distinguish the 4.3 mag star from
> the 4.7...
>
> In Cassiopeia, the open clusters *M52*, *NGC 7789*, *NGC 457* (the E.T.
> Cluster), *M103* y *NGC 663. I could easily see, in the E.T. Cluster,  the
> eyes, the little body and even the finger... Cassiopeia is wonderful through
> binoculars.*
>
> **The galaxies *M31*, *M32 *and *M110 *in Andromeda. I think I had never
> paid attention to M32 (M31 is so wonderful...) It looks quite stellar
> through binoculars
>
> Also in Andromeda, the open cluster *NGC 752 *and the double star *56 And*.
>
> The carbon star *TX Psc*. It was interesting to recognize the Circlet,
> impossible to see from my home with unaided eye.
>
> Globular clusters *M15 *and *M2*.
>
> The first object I could not find was *NGC 7293*, th Helix Nebula. I spent
> quite a lot of time but there were some light pollution from Cortegana, a
> small village 5 Km to the SSW.
>
> The other object I could not see was the globular cluster *NGC 288*, in
> Sculptor. I could see, in the same field of view the galaxy *NGC 253*, very
> elongated but some high clouds came and didn't let me see the globular
> cluster.
>
> Besides these objects I showed the next ones to the landlord and his child,
> who came to solve a little problem with the boiler: *Jupiter* with Calixto
> and Ganimedes at one side and Io at the other, M31, the *Pleiades*, the
*Double
> Cluster in Perseus*, M15, *M27* (at first I showed them *M71* by mistake). I
> wanted to show them a little bit of everything... What they liked most was
> Jupiter (curious) and, of course, the laser...
>
>
> Regards,
> Salva Segura.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hello everyone,

this is my first post. I come from Seville, in Spain, and my English is not
good...

I spent last weekend with family in a rural cottage in Sierra de Aracena
(South of Spain). I took a pair of Fujinon 16x70 and the book "Binocular
Astronomy" by Gary Seronik. It was raining on Friday, buy I could observe on
Saturday, between 20:00 and the Moon rise. I didn't take any notes but I
remember I could see everything in September to November pages, except two
objects...

First, I observed open clusters *NGC 7243* and *NGC 7209 in Lacerta. It was
more difficult for me to recognize the constellation than to find the
clusters, because I had never done it before. The first one seemed to be
broken in two, I'm not sure. I could see the second one more easily.*

In Cepheus, the open cluster *NGC 6939 *and the galaxy *NGC 6946*. I don't
remember nothing particularly interesting (I'll take notes next time...)

Also in Cepheus, the variable stars *mu Cep* (Garnet Star) and *delta Cep*.
I had never paid attention to variables, but spent some time comparing
magnitudes with the comparison stars in the book. Mu Cep is far from its
minimum so it was easy to identify. I suppose estimating magnitudes is a
question of practice, but I could hardly distinguish the 4.3 mag star from
the 4.7...

In Cassiopeia, the open clusters *M52*, *NGC 7789*, *NGC 457* (the E.T.
Cluster), *M103* y *NGC 663. I could easily see, in the E.T. Cluster,  the
eyes, the little body and even the finger... Cassiopeia is wonderful through
binoculars.*

**The galaxies *M31*, *M32 *and *M110 *in Andromeda. I think I had never
paid attention to M32 (M31 is so wonderful...) It looks quite stellar
through binoculars

Also in Andromeda, the open cluster *NGC 752 *and the double star *56 And*.

The carbon star *TX Psc*. It was interesting to recognize the Circlet,
impossible to see from my home with unaided eye.

Globular clusters *M15 *and *M2*.

The first object I could not find was *NGC 7293*, th Helix Nebula. I spent
quite a lot of time but there were some light pollution from Cortegana, a
small village 5 Km to the SSW.

The other object I could not see was the globular cluster *NGC 288*, in
Sculptor. I could see, in the same field of view the galaxy *NGC 253*, very
elongated but some high clouds came and didn't let me see the globular
cluster.

Besides these objects I showed the next ones to the landlord and his child,
who came to solve a little problem with the boiler: *Jupiter* with Calixto
and Ganimedes at one side and Io at the other, M31, the *Pleiades*, the *Double
Cluster in Perseus*, M15, *M27* (at first I showed them *M71* by mistake). I
wanted to show them a little bit of everything... What they liked most was
Jupiter (curious) and, of course, the laser...


Regards,
Salva Segura.


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Also consider the Bushnell Legend 10x50?

I have created a database/table for easy comparison of the Nikon AE and
Bushnell Legend:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/binocularastronomy/database

Members can edit or add other models to the databases.

You could order both models and send back the one you don't like.

Cathy

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responses. After reading all submissions, following links and, yes, even doing
some research on my own, I have decided that Nikon 10 x 50 Action Extreme
binoculars are definitely in my future. I greatly appreciate everyone's help.
>
> Clear skies and thanks again,
>
> Frank Loflin
> StarBourne Observatory
> Brookhaven Mississippi USA
>
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Wow Barry,
A 77mm filter?  I have found that just hand holding a regular 1.25" ep filter in
front of one eye works pretty well depending on the target.  Of course, having
something that you can screw on and not have to hold is a better way of doing
it.
Clear skies,
Eugene

--- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, bsimon615@... wrote:
>
> These appear similar to many others in their general price range.  I cannot
comment on them specifically because I have neither observed with them or
remember any specific reviews with them.
>
> I will say that while the built in light pollution filters seem like a good
idea, especially as the user has the option to use them or not, many have found
that using one filter on one objective is often better than filtering two
objectives.  As the eyes fuse the images the "one filtered" objective technique
will merge a better nebula image with a better natural star color and background
color image (with typically deeper, fainter stars) into one image.  When I had a
pair of Miyauchi 20x77 I used an adapter ring screwed into the threaded
objective end of one barrel which allowed use of my 72 mm Deep Sky Filter.  It
worked very well.
>
> Barry Simon
>
> --- In binocularastronomy@yahoogroups.com, "rouse8849" <rouse8849@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone used the Hutech 22x80 binos with built in light pollution
rejection filters? These are on the Borg site.
> >
>