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Re: Biochar as a political strategy

These considerations can all be taken into account when designing a payment
system that works. This will work if we are focused on the end results:
- we want carbon sequestration in soils
- we want to wean farmers off of feeding a high-calorie food system

If society is serious about these (healthcare bill and carbon bill currently in
the works) then it should get serious about paying farmers to achieve these
goals. There need to be sufficient financial incentives for the agricultural
sector to buy into this. In turn, farmers should be open-minded about the many
great opportunities that come from putting a high price on carbon. They should
voice their strong support for climate change legislation that can reduce carbon
pollution and improve their bottom line. The connections between a failing
healthcare system and a failing food system and a failing climate are obvious.



--- In biochar@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Miles" <tmiles@...> wrote:
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> If the cash were available I am sure that everyone would take advantage of it.
There is even a website devoted to what farms get what from the US federal
trough.
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> The real cost of administering the carbon programs has been high. I am told
that if I were to obtain credits worth $10/ton CO2 that in
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If the cash were available I am sure that everyone would take advantage of it. There is even a website devoted to what farms get what from the US federal...
Tom Miles
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These considerations can all be taken into account when designing a payment system that works. This will work if we are focused on the end results: - we want...
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Lists (adding biochar-climatechange) 1. Summary: I am going to take the opposite view on what I hear from Tom and I guess most others - I feel that the "...
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Some have suggested that a new form of Godwin's law<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law>is emerging. As the length of a thread increases the...
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Back40, To paraphrase JFK; Ich bin ein Erdenbürger or maybe Barry Goldwater; Extremism, in the defense of the Biosphere is no vice Erich :) ... Back40, To...
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a. RWL: Can you give a citation for /".... a website devoted to what farms get what from the US federal trough." Ron, I recommend the USDA Economic Research...
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Ron, You said below that "I know of no climate-neutral, much less carbon-negative, opportunity with more job potential than Biochar." This is an immensely...
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... Gosh, have we forgotten about conservation already? How many jobs would we create bringing insulation levels of buildings up to reasonable levels? I'd...
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... Apologies for following up my own post, I know it's bad form. I just wanted to make sure this didn't get received wrong. As far as climate change goes, I...
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Ron, Thanks for the post with specific examples. It's nice to tackle tangible themes. Looking at the economics of biochar in today's economy: It costs about...
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... These calculations include a lot of transporting. Mobile pyrolysis units may have completely different economics. They would run completely on the energy...
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TRK ... may have completely different >economics. They would run completely on the energy that the biochar process releases. This is especially >true if ...
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I see Goro Uehara<http://www.obpreview2009.govtools.us/Feedstocks/DOCUMENTS/Feedstock_Production_Hashimoto_7.1.2.6.pdf> from U of H will be presenting, so...
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Tom Here! Here! Politics is just a means to coerce where you cannot convince. It appears there are an excess of "ideas" that someone needs to be directed to do...
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Tom, That must have been one mighty fine pig roast. Max DeRungs ________________________________ From: Tom Miles <tmiles@...> To:...
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Tom If "Pyrolysis conversion plants are the only infrastructure we need to build out," who will pay for the plants and who will pay for owning and operating...
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I agree with Tom on the challenges inherent in farming today. I am a small farmer but learn about issues larger farmers have to deal with. For example the...
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... Why not ??? This is really what I meant. A change of mind has to happen among the farmers. They can be the centerpiece of a brand new industry: reverse...
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brand new industry... more of the same mindset perhaps... might as well apply sludge or other wastes. just to be paid for dumping and storage. what works with...
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Brigit, Here's a cornfield for you: www.biochar.info Nando ... -- Nando M. Breiter The CarbonZero Project CP 234 6934 Bioggio Switzerland +41 76 303 4477 ...
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I'm going to weigh in here and agree with Tom, and Ron. There's a price that will be paid for our economic success, which is based largely on the cheap energy...
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AND ..... I believe that is the field in Bolivia where Nicolas made 6 ears per plant last year, now I'm waiting for the photos of his current crop that he...
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Hi Tom, Thanks for giving people on this list a better grip on reality. SKB ... From: Tom Miles<mailto:tmiles@...> To:...
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Dear Erich ... From: Erich Knight To: biochar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [biochar] Biochar as a political strategy Tom If...
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Dear TR ... From: trkdirect To: biochar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: [biochar] Re: Biochar as a political strategy ... Why not...
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With an eye to improving soils and crop production and reducing inputs it is a good place to start. Economics are always important. Taking money at risk of...
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I really don't know what the point is in distorting and mis-quoting like that. But let me re-state: there is income potential for the agricultural sector in...
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Dear TR ... From: trkdirect To: biochar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: [biochar] Re: Biochar as a political strategy I really...
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Kevin, ... We certainly shouldn't blame the farmer for the country's obesity epidemic. It is the political reality of the last 30 years with its subsidies of...
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Yo Rasmus, Your smugness about the certainty of your views being the solution to everything from climate change to expanding waistlines is sort of amusing ...
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