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Reply Message #73 of 20906 |
In a previous post that I cannot seem to find now girl mark said
something to the effect of "collecting wvo is a time consuming and
expensive part of making biodiesel" for her group.

It does not have to be.

I use a simple and cheap "oil sucker" which uses a salvaged (free)
refrigerator compressor to create a vacuum (25") in a salvaged
(free) water pressure tank. These tanks are commonly available in
sizes from 5 to 120 gallons and are easily capable of safely
withstanding the pressures involved.

In the top of the tank I have a needle valve ($3) screwd into the
port provided for a schreader valve. I use 20' of 1/8" poly line
($1.20) to connect the compressor to the tank..which I load into my
pickup bed or small trailer on collection days..and store in the
corner of my garage the rest of the time.

In the bottom of the tank I connect a 20' section of cheap flexible
hose ($10) to a brass ball valve ($4) via a few nylon barbed
fittings ($4). On the other side of the ball valve I have 6' of
clear flexible poly hose ($2) so I can see if I am drawing crud or
clear wvo from the dumpster. This allows me to skim the best wvo off
the top of the wvo in the collection container...and leave the rest
to settle more. Eventually I have to suck the accumulated crud out
fo these tanks using the same unit and dispose of it...but those
making biodiesel may find it ok to simply use even this dirty bottom
crud.

When I arrive at my wvo source I slip the cleap clear pipe into the
wvo and barely open the ball valve allowing me to determine if the
end of the "suck" tube is sitting above the layer of crud. Then I
secure it with a simple clamp and open the valve all the way. At a
rate of about 4 gal per minute the wvo is sucked into the evactuated
tank and quickly fills it to within a few inches of the top before
the rate of flow decreases noticably. I have a cup of coffee, talk
to the owner/manager/cooks, or read a book while the tank is filling
sicne there is no pump to damage when/if the pipe sucks air. When I
was collecting for a co-op I had several units in the truck so I
could pull from several collections tanks at once and speed my day
along.

Usually these wvo collection tanks are 55 gallon drums I
provide...since most restaraunts with grease hauling service
have "exclusivity" agreements with the haulers. Once the wvo is in a
grease haulers dumpster it is often their property and even the
restaraunt owner cannot "give permission" to take it.

Once the tank is full I simply drive home and connect the
compressors "pressure" side to the tank, slip the "suck" hose into
my holding tank, and open the ball valve. Soon the tank pressurizes
and the wvo flows out of it even faster than it was sucked in.

This is a simple and cheap manner to collect wvo without pumps or
lifting. Sicne I have a "corporate" policy of sharing much of the
fruit of my R&D for free I would be happy to elaborate more on
the "system" or even provide pics and diagrams if there is interest.

Let me know if you want more info.
danalinscott@...




Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:08 pm

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In a previous post that I cannot seem to find now girl mark said something to the effect of "collecting wvo is a time consuming and expensive part of making...
Dana
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Aug 16, 2004
8:08 pm

Dana, I would like to encourage you to put up photos and instructions for your Automatic Grease Sucker. Perhaps you could post it on Veggie Avengers with the...
Maud Essen
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Aug 18, 2004
1:05 am

Maud, Thyanks for the offer. In fact I am in the process of putting a file together to post with a parts list, photos, and clear instructions on how to build...
Dana Linscott
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Aug 18, 2004
1:39 pm

I have been following the discussion on oil collection with amazement! In CA the land of many laws you need a license to collect and transport waist oil (IKG)...
ralph mcintyre
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Aug 18, 2004
5:08 pm

Ralph, Dana's email pointed out that he provides a 55 gallon drum to the restaurant with their permission. The restaurant chooses to put the grease in Dana's...
maudessen Offline Send Email Aug 18, 2004
5:27 pm

Maud; Over the weekend, I met with the Battalion Chief of the Chandler Fire department. I am planning a follow-up meeting with him to bring him and his staff...
Ray Janus
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Aug 18, 2004
5:56 pm

Ray, I'm really pleased to hear you're making straightforward progress with your Fire Chief. I don't have CNN and so missed the story on the scary...
Maud Essen
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Aug 19, 2004
2:37 am

Thanks for the URL re BDO safety, I'll share that with the chief when we meet. I am starting work on a series of buildings (you can find details of these at...
Ray Janus
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Aug 19, 2004
11:27 am

Ray, if your buildings are being built new, you are really in a position to do some great stuff with solar panels, a green roof, and using biodiesel for...
Maud Essen
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Aug 19, 2004
1:20 pm

... Hi Maud, Can you point me in the direction for finding more info on converting boilers for home use to biodiesel? I'm a total biodiesel newbie, and am...
Gina Martin
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Aug 19, 2004
3:07 pm

Hi Gina, Dana here. You may want to check out the yahoogroup at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altfuelfurnace There is some pretty good info there about...
Dana Linscott
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Aug 19, 2004
10:13 pm

Thanks Maud; We are working with Thom Bohlen, a nationally recognized environmental architect (www.oraclearchitecture.com <http://www.oraclearchitecture.com/> ...
Ray Janus
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Aug 19, 2004
5:04 pm

Hi Ralph, In MN no lisc is required for private/non-commercial collecting and transporting of wvo. I checked with the state on that..very carefully. I am...
Dana Linscott
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Aug 18, 2004
8:31 pm

To clarify I in no way was accusing any one of breaking the law or be dishonest my intent was to discuss where we are breaking laws and what ramification may...
ralph mcintyre
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Aug 19, 2004
3:21 am

Can't run BD legally in California? I believe (and I'm sure someone more qualified, like say Girl Mark in the Bay area, can confirm) that BD is legal ...
Barry Zickuhr
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Aug 19, 2004
3:58 am

Well Ralph, The laws governing collecting and transporting wvo do vary widely from state to state. And CA is probably the most restrictive...though I doubt...
Dana Linscott
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Aug 19, 2004
4:41 am

There was a thread at the www.groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel forum a while back, in which Detrick Metz (I think) wrote to the EPA about SVO conversion, and...
girl Mark
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Aug 19, 2004
6:00 am

Hi Mark Is it leagal or is not is there some loop hole? RM girl Mark <wrench@...> wrote: There was a thread at the...
ralph mcintyre
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Aug 20, 2004
4:28 pm

Do the research at the list I mentioned below and draw your conclusions (and share what you see there). It;'s been a few months since I read that thread......
girl Mark
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Aug 20, 2004
4:30 pm

Do the research at the list I mentioned below and draw your conclusions (and share what you see there). It;'s been a few months since I read that thread......
girl Mark
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Aug 20, 2004
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