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4 Sean Corfield
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Dec 1, 1998
11:46 am
Well, not much. This is more to let you know the list is still alive and, er, kicking... Beman's been busy working on updates to the web site - more news from...
5 Kühl, Dietmar
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Dec 1, 1998
1:36 pm
Hi, ... I think that Nico wanted to work on this. I asked him recently but I said that I had not come around to do anything for this yet. ... As far as I...
6 David Abrahams
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Dec 1, 1998
7:35 pm
... Here are a few simple but extremely useful things I've already implemented, but which my employer holds a copyright on. If someone else wanted to make a...
7 Greg Colvin
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Dec 2, 1998
9:41 am
... Beman and me. ... This one went by on comp.std.c++ as a way to get an integral constant for an array size as sizeof(size(a)): template<typename T,const...
8 Kühl, Dietmar
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Dec 2, 1998
12:07 pm
Hi, ... Actually, the three functions were the starting point! I posted them in summer 1997 (I think). I have an article ready describing their advantage...
9 Greg Colvin
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Dec 3, 1998
2:41 am
... Well well. What goes around comes around I guess. I never saw your post. ... It doesn't much bother me that size() is not an integral constant, since in...
10 Beman Dawes
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Dec 5, 1998
1:06 am
http://www.boost.org has been updated. There are two proposed libraries available on the site for review. The password for the site has been removed. --Beman ...
11 Greg Colvin
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Dec 5, 1998
2:49 am
... It looks really good up there. Do I get my picture in cyberspace too? At some point (after we ship Oracle8i) I'll think some more about some random...
12 Beman Dawes
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Dec 6, 1998
2:44 pm
... too? Anybody who contributes anything gets their picture in cyberspace! (Unless they are shy.) ... some ... The background on the above is that when Greg...
13 Beman Dawes
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Dec 6, 1998
3:48 pm
In Santa Cruz, we talked about smart pointer classes; a simple no transfer-of-ownership flavor called "scoped_ptr" (previously "safe_ptr") and a referenced...
14 Beman Dawes
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Dec 6, 1998
3:48 pm
... don't ... I agree with Dietmar on this. Let's keep Boost focused on new libraries rather than alternate implementations of existing libraries. --Beman ......
15 Beman Dawes
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Dec 6, 1998
3:48 pm
... ones ... sequences. ... something ... would ... There are (at least) these possibilities: * A component which goes into namespace boost, and is intended...
16 Beman Dawes
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Dec 6, 1998
3:48 pm
... else ... Have you thought about asking your employer for permission to submit, while they retain the copyright? It creates goodwill and free advertising...
17 Greg Colvin
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Dec 6, 1998
6:26 pm
... The difference would just be to have long operator*() instead of (or in addition to) operator long(). That is, rather than model a random number as a long...
18 Greg Colvin
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Dec 6, 1998
6:26 pm
... I think that Alex is working on this already, so you might check with him first. Certainly it would be a welcome addition to our growing little library. ...
19 Nathan Myers
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Dec 6, 1998
11:10 pm
... That seems like extra apparatus. It's not a container. Just define operator+ for it. ... You compute *itrc lazily, so if you never say *(itrc + 1000), you...
20 Nathan Myers
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Dec 6, 1998
11:10 pm
... There is a third option: parameterize. However, I wouldn't advocate that. Ultimately we should let Greg choose, but if I were to advise him I would...
21 Greg Colvin
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Dec 7, 1998
7:14 am
... Recall (as you may already) that both versions store the count on the heap: "direct": object <- shared_ptr -> count "indirect": shared_ptr -> count ->...
22 Sean A Corfield
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Dec 7, 1998
11:06 am
<Dietmar.Kuehl@...> wrote: [I don't think that we should produce a competing version unless we are uncomfortable with the SGI STL ones or if we have...
23 Sean A Corfield
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Dec 7, 1998
11:06 am
Beman Dawes <beman@...> wrote: [It would seem that the direct version will generate less code and run faster for dereferencing, and more code and run...
24 Kühl, Dietmar
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Dec 7, 1998
12:07 pm
Hi, [Me about a graph algorithms library removed] ... I was one day at SGI after the last meeting in Santa Cruz and discussed my ideas how to do a generic...
25 Beman Dawes
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Dec 7, 1998
4:51 pm
... pointer ... pointer ... preference.) ... then? ... Yes, it would be nice to be able to write: shared_ptr<MyClass> my_default_ptr; // direct_shared_ptr ...
26 Kühl, Dietmar
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Dec 7, 1998
5:33 pm
Hi, ... This is easy to achieve! Here is how: // types used to choose the reference counting method: struct direct {}; struct indirected {}; template <typename...
27 Nathan Myers
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Dec 7, 1998
8:06 pm
... True, I mis-reconstructed the direct case. I agree that the memory allocator sees the two cases identically. Still, the direct case should be less...
28 Kevlin Henney
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Dec 7, 1998
8:50 pm
I was planning to submit a generalised random number iterator/pseudo-container that I wrote over 3 years ago to the library. It was distributed with ACCU's...
29 Beman Dawes
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Dec 7, 1998
9:46 pm
... This seems a neat approach, better than the forwarding class approach I tried and gave up on. But when I tried your approach with real-world compilers,...
30 Beman Dawes
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Dec 7, 1998
10:30 pm
... library. It ... CPUs", DDJ ... intelligence ... 'container' ... bounding ... long ... best ... It is very hard to find a random number generator which...
31 David Abrahams
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Dec 7, 1998
10:39 pm
... Yuck! Since it's going to be intrusive anyway, why not simply require that the user derive from boost::reference_counted? ... How do you propose that...
32 Beman Dawes
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Dec 7, 1998
10:51 pm
... require that the user derive from boost::reference_counted? It is better, I think, to just specify the expressions which must be well formed, and let the...
33 Greg Colvin
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Dec 7, 1998
11:11 pm
... I tend to be sensitive to size issues and insensitive to virtual memory and cache effects -- too many years on the original Mac and PC. But it seems the...
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