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#3483 From: "chipschipschips2000" <DaveMonkc@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:59 pm
Subject: Anyone have any ideas?
chipschipsch...
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Hi,
I saw this and thought it looked interesting. I have not been able to
find what it is other than a centipede.
Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks Dave

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugclub/files/DM/

#3484 From: "Malcolm Storey" <malcolm.storey@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:29 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone have any ideas?
bioimages2000
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Hi Dave,
It's a beetle larva - probably a carabid.
HTH
Malcolm


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> Of chipschipschips2000
> Sent: 01 February 2008 12:59
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bugclub] Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Hi,
> I saw this and thought it looked interesting. I have not been able to
> find what it is other than a centipede.
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks Dave
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugclub/files/DM/
>
>
>
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>
>
> The next AES Exhibition at Kempton Park Racecourse, Middlesex, is on
> Saturday 22 September 2007, open from 11.00 am to 5.00pm. For further
> details and information on membership of the AES see the AES Website at
> http://www.amentsoc.org/.
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> For advice on insects and membership of the AES Bug Club (open to those
> under 13) see the AES Bug Club website at
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#3485 From: Stuart Hine <Stuart@...>
Date: Fri Feb 1, 2008 6:28 pm
Subject: RE: Anyone have any ideas?
bombuslucorum0
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Hi Dave,

It's the larva of a ground beetle (Coleoptera: Carabidae) - I would plump for a species of Pterostichus, perhaps even P. madidius.

Stuart

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Message Received: Feb 01 2008, 06:14 PM
From: "chipschipschips2000"
To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [bugclub] Anyone have any ideas?

Hi,
I saw this and thought it looked interesting. I have not been able to
find what it is other than a centipede.
Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks Dave

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugclub/files/DM/


#3486 From: DaveMonkc@...
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:33 am
Subject: Re: Anyone have any ideas?
chipschipsch...
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Thanks Malcolm,
That explains why I can only see a few legs on it.
Dave

#3487 From: DaveMonkc@...
Date: Sat Feb 2, 2008 4:36 am
Subject: Re: Anyone have any ideas?
chipschipsch...
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Thanks Stuart,
There isn't much on the web for beetle larva, but I shall try and follow your lead.
Dave

#3488 From: "jklm188" <jklm188@...>
Date: Sun Feb 3, 2008 3:04 am
Subject: Minimum Height of Tank to Keep a Scorpion?
jklm188
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Hi frens

Does any one know what's the minimum height of a glass aquarium tank
to keep a scorpion pls?  Pls express it in the minimum body lengths of
a scorpion.  Thanks.




Singapore,
M*A*X

#3489 From: "ken" <europah@...>
Date: Mon Feb 4, 2008 2:49 pm
Subject: African beetle
kilocharles
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Hi everyone

I'm hoping that someone can help me with something thats been bugging
me for a while now. A few years ago I was in Africa and saw a
beautiful beetle sunning on a leaf. It was perhaps 15mm long, it was
coloured with royal metallic blue with one bright gold spot on each of
its wings, does anyone know what beetle this was? Unfortunatly I
did'nt have a camera to hand at the time, so do not have any pic to
show.

Many Thanks

Ken

#3490 From: "Jean Michel Maes" <jmmaes@...>
Date: Wed Feb 6, 2008 10:42 pm
Subject: Birdlist of Nicaragua (in spanish)
jmmaes
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For people studying or watching birds,
 
the 2007 version of the Birdlist of Nicaragua,
is now available in spanish on-line at :
 
section "Biblioteca virtual" (virtual library)
section "Aves" (birds).
 
Sincerely,
 
Jean-Michel.
 
 
Dr. Jean-Michel MAES
MUSEO ENTOMOLOGICO
AP 527
LEON
NICARAGUA
tel 505-3116586
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
afleon@... (oficina de la Alianza Francesa)
 
www.bio-nica.info (main page in spanish)
http://360.yahoo.com/jmmaes
http://www.ibw.com.ni/u/jmmaes (pequeña pagina de contacto)
http://espanol.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEL-Info/ (lista de anuncios - puede inscribirse si le parece)
www.avesnicaragua.org (aves)
http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/termitero/nicaragua/welcome.htm (Insectos)
http://www.coleoptera.org/p1760.htm (Lucanidae genera)
 
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#3491 From: "pippaseward" <pippaseward@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:29 pm
Subject: Advice please
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Can anyone give me advice on where to sell a book called 'The spiders
of Great Britain and ireland' by M. J. Roberts.

Thankyou.

#3492 From: "Simon Robson" <s.robson@...>
Date: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: Advice please
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--- In bugclub@yahoogroups.com, "pippaseward" <pippaseward@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me advice on where to sell a book called 'The spiders
> of Great Britain and ireland' by M. J. Roberts.
>
> Thankyou.
>
A very desired book just name your price, sit back and smile.

#3493 From: "Jean Michel Maes" <jmmaes@...>
Date: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:53 pm
Subject: Entomological Field Trips to Nicaragua - October - November 2008
jmmaes
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Dear friends,

 

This short note to inform that the dates for the Field Trips in Nicaragua for end of 2008 are now available on the web page of Bio-Nica at:

www.bio-nica.info

in the seccion of Giras de Campo / Field Trips.

 

Sincerely,

 

Jean-Michel Maes

Museo Entomologico de Leon

 

Note : Si vous préférez recevoir nos messages en français, dites le moi.

Jean-Michel > jmmaes@...

 

Nota : Si prefieres recibir nuestros mensajes en español, digame lo.

Jean-Michel > jmmaes@...

 

Nota : Si es de Nicaragua, igual digamelo para cambiarlo de lista, tenemos una lista de información mas local para Nicaragua, con anuncios culturales, ofertas de empleo, becas.

Jean-Michel > jmmaes@...

.

 


Dr. Jean-Michel MAES
MUSEO ENTOMOLOGICO
AP 527
LEON
NICARAGUA
tel 505-3116586
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
jmmaes@...
afleon@... (oficina de la Alianza Francesa)
 
www.bio-nica.info (main page in spanish)
http://360.yahoo.com/jmmaes
http://www.ibw.com.ni/u/jmmaes (pequeña pagina de contacto)
http://espanol.groups.yahoo.com/group/MEL-Info/ (lista de anuncios - puede inscribirse si le parece)
www.avesnicaragua.org (aves)
http://www.insectariumvirtual.com/termitero/nicaragua/welcome.htm (Insectos)
http://www.coleoptera.org/p1760.htm (Lucanidae genera)

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#3494 From: "Steve J. McWilliam" <steve.mcwilliam@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:55 am
Subject: Entomological Exhibition Meeting - 1st March 2008 - Frodsham
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The Annual Exhibition meeting of the Lancashire and Cheshire
Entomological Society (LCES) takes place on SATURDAY 1st MARCH 2008
from 11.00 am until 4.00 pm - (Open 10.00 am for exhibitors to set up)
at FRODSHAM COMMUNITY CENTRE, Fluin Lane, Frodsham, Cheshire, WA6 7QN -
(01928) 732222), - (Grid-Ref.SJ521777).

Visitors are very welcome. Along with the exhibition and discussion
there will be talks on the Garden Moth Scheme by Dave Grundy and on
Ichneumon Wasps by Gavin Broad of the Natural History Museum.

There will also be sales counters from natural history booksellers and
from entomological equipment suppliers. Refreshments will be available.

For further details please contact the Exhibition organiser : Shane
Farrell on shane.farrell@...

Hope to see you there !!!

#3495 From: "Dafydd Lewis" <dafydd@...>
Date: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: The December AES Bug Club Magazine
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The December BCM extended to 32 pages and contained two articles by
young entomologists – one giving a young perspective on the Kempton
Exhibition, and the other an excellent article by 8 year old Rachel
McLeod, describing her Naturalists' Kit. Rachel was a winner of the
Gardiner Award this year, for another article she submitted to the
BCM. She will also be speaking at our Members' Day in April!

Conservation Cara made some interesting points in Conservation Corner
this time, noting how most conservationists concentrate on the big
animals – such as rhinoceroses (or rhinoceri?) – whereas insects
actually make up the bulk of animal life on our planet. Her figures
on which groups of animals get the most conservation funding make
amazing reading, and highlight the importance of flying the flag for
insects. She also describes in detail how to get to London Zoo
without getting bunions...

The really `serious' contribution to the December BCM was by AES
President Mike Majerus, who told the story of the black peppered
moth, Biston betularia. This moth has been cited in school syllabuses
for decades as an excellent example of evolution by natural selection
in action, but some doubt has been cast on the scientific validity of
the story. Mike explains how recent ground breaking research by a
Cambridge Professor has confirmed the initial findings of Professor
Bernard Kettlewell, so that the role of the peppered moth in
evolution has been proved right. That Cambridge professor was called
Mike Majerus, funnily enough...

Bug Clubbers – i.e. Members of our Exclusive AES Bug Club – will, by
the time you read this, be anticipating the imminent arrival of the
February issue of their magazine, which will contain details of our
action packed Members' Day, our planned Bug Club visit to the Royal
Horticultural Society (did you know they employ two entomologists?)
and to the Liverpool Museums (this year marks that City being the
European Capital of Culture) among lots of other events.

It isn't too late to join...

Happy Bugging,

The AES Bug Club Editorial Team
www.amentsoc.org/bugclub

#3496 From: "Andy Chick" <andy.chick@...>
Date: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:34 pm
Subject: Coelopidae
deviant_myotis
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Hi i was wondering if anyone know how to distingish between the two UK species of Coelopidae (Diptera)?

#3497 From: "Graeme Stroud" <G.Stroud@...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:13 pm
Subject: Field Guides to Moths
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Hi all,

 

As an amateur nature-spotter, I'm aiming to buy the 'Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland' by Martin Townsend, Paul Waring, and Richard Lewington.

It looks like a pretty comprehensive guide to larger moths and costs just under £30 in Waterstones, but two things worry me slightly about it:

 

1) It doesn't include the MICROmoths, and

2) Of the MACROmoths, it may possibly include too many - you know how sometimes you might spot an insect, and there are 20 or 30 pictures in the book that look almost identical, when in 99.9% of cases it's going to be one of the most common species - so it would be less confusing for the layman if the book left out all the borderline extinct and rare migrant species.

 

I have also seen on Amazon the Concise version of the above guide; it's only a tenner and may actually be more usable, but I can't find a copy to look at because Waterstones deny its existence.

 

I don't know though. Is anyone familiar with either of the books mentioned? Or can anyone recommend a really brilliant book that walks this fine line successfully? (I find drawn illustrations more useful than photos when it comes to moths).

 

Cheers,

Graeme

Comma Oil Chemicals Limited
Dering Way, Gravesend, Kent DA12 2QX

(Registered in England: Number 2075698. Registered Office as above)

(If the e-mail is received in error, inform the sender immediately and do not copy the e-mail, use its contents or disclose them to any unauthorised third party).

#3498 From: David Howdon <davidhowdon@...>
Date: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Field Guides to Moths
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Graeme Stroud wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As an amateur nature-spotter, I'm aiming to buy the 'Field Guide to the
> Moths of Great Britain and Ireland' by Martin Townsend, Paul Waring, and
> Richard Lewington.
>
> It looks like a pretty comprehensive guide to larger moths and costs
> just under £30 in Waterstones, but two things worry me slightly about it:
>
> 1) It doesn't include the MICROmoths, and

There is no single book which covers the micro-lepidoptera, you can get
pretty good coverage by paying a lot of money for various specialist
volumes on Europe but even then you will need to dissect many of them.

>
> 2) Of the MACROmoths, it may possibly include too many - you know how
> sometimes you might spot an insect, and there are 20 or 30 pictures in
> the book that look almost identical, when in 99.9% of cases it's going
> to be one of the most common species - so it would be less confusing for
> the layman if the book left out all the borderline extinct and rare
> migrant species.

I can see the argument but all I can suggest is that you accept the
necessity of reading the text or passing the moth.  I've seen several
less complete moth books and have yet to find one that does not miss out
a lot of "common" species.  I'd not recommend any of them (but I've
probably not seen all of the possibilities either).

>
>
> I have also seen on Amazon the Concise version of the above guide; it's
> only a tenner and may actually be more usable, but I can't find a copy
> to look at because Waterstones deny its existence.

The concise guide may be less useful to you than the full version.  It
is concise because it reduces the text.  As you are concerned about not
being able distinguish between the several similar moths having less
information about distribution, phenology, features etc. will make it
harder to be sure of your IDs.

>
>
> I don't know though. Is anyone familiar with either of the books
> mentioned? Or can anyone recommend a really brilliant book that walks
> this fine line successfully? (I find drawn illustrations more useful
> than photos when it comes to moths).

There is no ideal book.  Waring et al is probably the best for the
amateur as it shows all the species in natural resting postures.
Skinner (http://tinyurl.com/3agyjm) which shows set moths is very good
too - I find I rely on it for some of the more difficult IDs.


If you are not aware of it http://www.ukmoths.org.uk/ can be a very
helpful site and the people on the moths discussion group
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ukmoths/ are usually pretty happy to
help with IDs if you get stuck (as of course are the people on the
bugclub list you are currently on).


--
David Howdon (http://freespace.virgin.net/david.howdon/)

#3499 From: "Graeme Stroud" <G.Stroud@...>
Date: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:30 am
Subject: RE: Field Guides to Moths
graemestroud
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Thanks David,

That's a good set of arguments in favour of my original decision!

 

Waring it is then.

Graeme

 

 

 

From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Howdon
Sent: 27 February 2008 18:33
To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bugclub] Field Guides to Moths

 

Graeme Stroud wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As an amateur nature-spotter, I'm aiming to buy the 'Field Guide to the
> Moths of Great Britain and Ireland' by Martin Townsend, Paul Waring, and
> Richard Lewington.
>
> It looks like a pretty comprehensive guide to larger moths and costs
> just under £30 in Waterstones, but two things worry me slightly about it:
>
> 1) It doesn't include the MICROmoths, and

There is no single book which covers the micro-lepidoptera, you can get
pretty good coverage by paying a lot of money for various specialist
volumes on Europe but even then you will need to dissect many of them.

>
> 2) Of the MACROmoths, it may possibly include too many - you know how
> sometimes you might spot an insect, and there are 20 or 30 pictures in
> the book that look almost identical, when in 99.9% of cases it's going
> to be one of the most common species - so it would be less confusing for
> the layman if the book left out all the borderline extinct and rare
> migrant species.

I can see the argument but all I can suggest is that you accept the
necessity of reading the text or passing the moth. I've seen several
less complete moth books and have yet to find one that does not miss out
a lot of "common" species. I'd not recommend any of them (but I've
probably not seen all of the possibilities either).

>
>
> I have also seen on Amazon the Concise version of the above guide; it's
> only a tenner and may actually be more usable, but I can't find a copy
> to look at because Waterstones deny its existence.

The concise guide may be less useful to you than the full version. It
is concise because it reduces the text. As you are concerned about not
being able distinguish between the several similar moths having less
information about distribution, phenology, features etc. will make it
harder to be sure of your IDs.

>
>
> I don't know though. Is anyone familiar with either of the books
> mentioned? Or can anyone recommend a really brilliant book that walks
> this fine line successfully? (I find drawn illustrations more useful
> than photos when it comes to moths).

There is no ideal book. Waring et al is probably the best for the
amateur as it shows all the species in natural resting postures.
Skinner (http://tinyurl.com/3agyjm) which shows set moths is very good
too - I find I rely on it for some of the more difficult IDs.

If you are not aware of it http://www.ukmoths.org.uk/ can be a very
helpful site and the people on the moths discussion group
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ukmoths/ are usually pretty happy to
help with IDs if you get stuck (as of course are the people on the
bugclub list you are currently on).

--
David Howdon (http://freespace.virgin.net/david.howdon/)

Comma Oil Chemicals Limited
Dering Way, Gravesend, Kent DA12 2QX

(Registered in England: Number 2075698. Registered Office as above)

(If the e-mail is received in error, inform the sender immediately and do not copy the e-mail, use its contents or disclose them to any unauthorised third party).

#3500 From: <sgm@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:54 am
Subject: please help to identify an insect
beaumont_debbie
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I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling around in my hair and I think it bit me.
The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame seed.It has two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is twice the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with a faint brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width ways. I don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think it had 6 legs but cant be sure.
I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have picked it up there.
Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful or poisonous.
I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I could send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I have put it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being removed from my hair.

#3501 From: "Malcolm Storey" <malcolm.storey@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:58 am
Subject: RE: please help to identify an insect
bioimages2000
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Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no dishonour to pick one
up - they prefer clean people!!
HTH
Malcolm


> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of sgm@...
> Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling around in
> my hair and I think it bit me.
> The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame seed.It has
> two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is twice
> the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with a faint
> brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width ways. I
> don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think it had
> 6 legs but cant be sure.
> I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have picked it
> up there.
> Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful or
> poisonous.
> I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I could
> send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I have put
> it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being removed from
> my hair.
>

#3502 From: <sgm@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:26 am
Subject: Re: please help to identify an insect
beaumont_debbie
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I have checked everyones hair and mine ,over and over ,and there is no sign of any head lice. Is it possible to just have one?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect

Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no dishonour to pick one
up - they prefer clean people!!
HTH
Malcolm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of sgm@talktalk.net
> Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling around in
> my hair and I think it bit me.
> The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame seed.It has
> two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is twice
> the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with a faint
> brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width ways. I
> don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think it had
> 6 legs but cant be sure.
> I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have picked it
> up there.
> Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful or
> poisonous.
> I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I could
> send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I have put
> it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being removed from
> my hair.
>


#3503 From: "Malcolm Storey" <malcolm.storey@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:45 am
Subject: RE: please help to identify an insect
bioimages2000
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Absolutely. That's normally how it starts. You can't check your own hair of
course, but I know what you mean.

Look on the web for pictures and see if that's what you've got. If so,
you'll need to check for/remove eggs which are glued to the hair (am sure
you know all this!) Traditionally this was done with a "fine tooth comb" but
these days there'll be something less environmentally-friendly!

HTH
Malcolm


> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of sgm@...
> Sent: 29 February 2008 11:26
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> I have checked everyones hair and mine ,over and over ,and there is no
> sign of any head lice. Is it possible to just have one?
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Malcolm Storey <mailto:malcolm.storey@...>
>  To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM
>  Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
>
>  Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no dishonour to
> pick one
>  up - they prefer clean people!!
>  HTH
>  Malcolm
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
>  > Of sgm@... <mailto:sgm@...>
>  > Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
>  > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
>  > Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>  >
>  > I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling
> around in
>  > my hair and I think it bit me.
>  > The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame
> seed.It has
>  > two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is
> twice
>  > the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with
> a faint
>  > brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width
> ways. I
>  > don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think
> it had
>  > 6 legs but cant be sure.
>  > I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have
> picked it
>  > up there.
>  > Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful
> or
>  > poisonous.
>  > I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I
> could
>  > send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I
> have put
>  > it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being
> removed from
>  > my hair.
>  >
>
>
>
>

#3504 From: Bug Club <bugclubquestions@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:48 am
Subject: Re: Field Guides to Moths
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Hi Graeme,

Two problem areas that you can get help with on the web are:- is it likely to be found in my area and is it the right time of year for it to be flying (it take ages to wade through the text in handbooks).

An excellent site for the latter is that run by the Suffolk Moth Group - see "what is flying tonight" on their website at:-


The lists are often pretty long - for most species you can click on the B&F number to see a photo as well.

I live just over the border in Essex and find it very useful - it will also be a pretty good guide for your area.

You can also check out the Kent moth group for a list of the common species in that county.

Reg 


On 28 Feb 2008, at 07:30, Graeme Stroud wrote:


Thanks David,

That's a good set of arguments in favour of my original decision!

 

Waring it is then.

Graeme

 

 

 

From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Howdon
Sent: 27 February 2008 18:33
To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bugclub] Field Guides to Moths

 

Graeme Stroud wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As an amateur nature-spotter, I'm aiming to buy the 'Field Guide to the 
> Moths of Great Britain and Ireland' by Martin Townsend, Paul Waring, and 
> Richard Lewington.
> 
> It looks like a pretty comprehensive guide to larger moths and costs 
> just under £30 in Waterstones, but two things worry me slightly about it: 
> 
> 1) It doesn't include the MICROmoths, and

There is no single book which covers the micro-lepidoptera, you can get 
pretty good coverage by paying a lot of money for various specialist 
volumes on Europe but even then you will need to dissect many of them.

> 
> 2) Of the MACROmoths, it may possibly include too many - you know how 
> sometimes you might spot an insect, and there are 20 or 30 pictures in 
> the book that look almost identical, when in 99.9% of cases it's going 
> to be one of the most common species - so it would be less confusing for 
> the layman if the book left out all the borderline extinct and rare 
> migrant species.

I can see the argument but all I can suggest is that you accept the 
necessity of reading the text or passing the moth. I've seen several 
less complete moth books and have yet to find one that does not miss out 
a lot of "common" species. I'd not recommend any of them (but I've 
probably not seen all of the possibilities either).

> 
> 
> I have also seen on Amazon the Concise version of the above guide; it's 
> only a tenner and may actually be more usable, but I can't find a copy 
> to look at because Waterstones deny its existence.

The concise guide may be less useful to you than the full version. It 
is concise because it reduces the text. As you are concerned about not 
being able distinguish between the several similar moths having less 
information about distribution, phenology, features etc. will make it 
harder to be sure of your IDs.

> 
> 
> I don't know though. Is anyone familiar with either of the books 
> mentioned? Or can anyone recommend a really brilliant book that walks 
> this fine line successfully? (I find drawn illustrations more useful 
> than photos when it comes to moths).

There is no ideal book. Waring et al is probably the best for the 
amateur as it shows all the species in natural resting postures. 
Skinner (http://tinyurl.com/3agyjm) which shows set moths is very good 
too - I find I rely on it for some of the more difficult IDs.

If you are not aware of it http://www.ukmoths.org.uk/ can be a very 
helpful site and the people on the moths discussion group 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ukmoths/ are usually pretty happy to 
help with IDs if you get stuck (as of course are the people on the 
bugclub list you are currently on).

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#3505 From: <sgm@...>
Date: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: please help to identify an insect
beaumont_debbie
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i have checked the web and although similar it is not a head louse.its body is slightly different, narrower.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect

Absolutely. That's normally how it starts. You can't check your own hair of
course, but I know what you mean.

Look on the web for pictures and see if that's what you've got. If so,
you'll need to check for/remove eggs which are glued to the hair (am sure
you know all this!) Traditionally this was done with a "fine tooth comb" but
these days there'll be something less environmentally-friendly!

HTH
Malcolm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of sgm@talktalk.net
> Sent: 29 February 2008 11:26
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> I have checked everyones hair and mine ,over and over ,and there is no
> sign of any head lice. Is it possible to just have one?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Malcolm Storey <mailto:malcolm.storey@dsl.pipex.com>
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
>
> Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no dishonour to
> pick one
> up - they prefer clean people!!
> HTH
> Malcolm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of sgm@talktalk.net <mailto:sgm@talktalk.net>
> > Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
> > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
> >
> > I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling
> around in
> > my hair and I think it bit me.
> > The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame
> seed.It has
> > two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is
> twice
> > the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with
> a faint
> > brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width
> ways. I
> > don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think
> it had
> > 6 legs but cant be sure.
> > I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have
> picked it
> > up there.
> > Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful
> or
> > poisonous.
> > I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I
> could
> > send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I
> have put
> > it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being
> removed from
> > my hair.
> >
>
>
>
>


#3506 From: "Andy Chick" <andy.chick@...>
Date: Sat Mar 1, 2008 9:27 am
Subject: Re: please help to identify an insect
deviant_myotis
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the treatments avalible start with homiopic TeaTree solutions and work up to full blow OP pesticides, such as Malathion..... if your from the UK avoid the pyrithum based ones as they developed a resistance to them within the last 2 years.  American head lice have developed a resistance to malathion based treatments if memory serves....
 
Lice can show variation and fatten out with a feed plus the head louse is a bit narrower than the body louse (the two are often mixed up), how ever it could be something different, book louse/bark louse possibly?

 
On 2/29/08, sgm@... <sgm@...> wrote:

i have checked the web and although similar it is not a head louse.its body is slightly different, narrower.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect

 

Absolutely. That's normally how it starts. You can't check your own hair of
course, but I know what you mean.

Look on the web for pictures and see if that's what you've got. If so,
you'll need to check for/remove eggs which are glued to the hair (am sure
you know all this!) Traditionally this was done with a "fine tooth comb" but
these days there'll be something less environmentally-friendly!

HTH
Malcolm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of sgm@...
> Sent: 29 February 2008 11:26
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> I have checked everyones hair and mine ,over and over ,and there is no
> sign of any head lice. Is it possible to just have one?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Malcolm Storey <mailto:malcolm.storey@...>
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
>
> Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no dishonour to
> pick one
> up - they prefer clean people!!
> HTH
> Malcolm
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of sgm@... <mailto:sgm@...>
> > Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
> > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
> >
> > I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it crawling
> around in
> > my hair and I think it bit me.
> > The insect is very small approximately the size of a sesame
> seed.It has
> > two parts the head which is round and brown and the body which is
> twice
> > the length of the head and elongated. The body is transparent with
> a faint
> > brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the body width
> ways. I
> > don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small antennae.I think
> it had
> > 6 legs but cant be sure.
> > I had been to a farm for the day with the children so could have
> picked it
> > up there.
> > Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many be harmful
> or
> > poisonous.
> > I am unable to send a photograph because its just to small, but I
> could
> > send the insect in the post to the club if this is an option. I
> have put
> > it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was being
> removed from
> > my hair.
> >
>
>
>
>



#3507 From: "Malcolm Storey" <malcolm.storey@...>
Date: Sun Mar 2, 2008 1:50 pm
Subject: RE: please help to identify an insect
bioimages2000
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> it could be something different, book louse/bark louse possibly?

Don't think they can bite people. In the absence of a photo, I'd stick with
head/body lice.

Malcolm



> -----Original Message-----
> From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Chick
> Sent: 01 March 2008 09:27
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
> the treatments avalible start with homiopic TeaTree solutions and work up
> to full blow OP pesticides, such as Malathion..... if your from the UK
> avoid the pyrithum based ones as they developed a resistance to them
> within the last 2 years.  American head lice have developed a resistance
> to malathion based treatments if memory serves....
>
> Lice can show variation and fatten out with a feed plus the head louse is
> a bit narrower than the body louse (the two are often mixed up), how ever
> it could be something different, book louse/bark louse possibly?
>
>
> On 2/29/08, sgm@... <sgm@...> wrote:
>
>
>  i have checked the web and although similar it is not a head
> louse.its body is slightly different, narrower.
>
>
> 	 ----- Original Message -----
> 	 From: Malcolm Storey <mailto:malcolm.storey@...>
>
> 	 To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> 	 Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:45 AM
> 	 Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
>
>
>
> 	 Absolutely. That's normally how it starts. You can't check
> your own hair of
> 	 course, but I know what you mean.
>
> 	 Look on the web for pictures and see if that's what you've
> got. If so,
> 	 you'll need to check for/remove eggs which are glued to the
> hair (am sure
> 	 you know all this!) Traditionally this was done with a "fine
> tooth comb" but
> 	 these days there'll be something less environmentally-
> friendly!
>
> 	 HTH
> 	 Malcolm
>
> 	 > -----Original Message-----
> 	 > From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
> 	 > Of sgm@... <mailto:sgm%40talktalk.net>
> 	 > Sent: 29 February 2008 11:26
> 	 > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>
> 	 > Subject: Re: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
> 	 >
> 	 > I have checked everyones hair and mine ,over and over ,and
> there is no
> 	 > sign of any head lice. Is it possible to just have one?
> 	 >
> 	 > ----- Original Message -----
> 	 > From: Malcolm Storey <mailto:malcolm.storey@...
> <mailto:malcolm.storey%40dsl.pipex.com> >
> 	 > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>
> 	 > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:58 AM
> 	 > Subject: RE: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
> 	 >
> 	 >
> 	 > Might be a head-louse. (Check the kids too!) It's no
> dishonour to
> 	 > pick one
> 	 > up - they prefer clean people!!
> 	 > HTH
> 	 > Malcolm
> 	 >
> 	 > > -----Original Message-----
> 	 > > From: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com> >
> 	 > [mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com> > ] On
> 	 > Behalf
> 	 > > Of sgm@... <mailto:sgm%40talktalk.net>
> <mailto:sgm@... <mailto:sgm%40talktalk.net> >
> 	 > > Sent: 29 February 2008 09:55
> 	 > > To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com>  <mailto:bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:bugclub%40yahoogroups.com> >
> 	 > > Subject: [bugclub] please help to identify an insect
> 	 > >
> 	 > > I found a insect in my hair last week, I could feel it
> crawling
> 	 > around in
> 	 > > my hair and I think it bit me.
> 	 > > The insect is very small approximately the size of a
> sesame
> 	 > seed.It has
> 	 > > two parts the head which is round and brown and the body
> which is
> 	 > twice
> 	 > > the length of the head and elongated. The body is
> transparent with
> 	 > a faint
> 	 > > brown/reddish outline. There are black lines inside the
> body width
> 	 > ways. I
> 	 > > don't think this insect has wings. It had 2 small
> antennae.I think
> 	 > it had
> 	 > > 6 legs but cant be sure.
> 	 > > I had been to a farm for the day with the children so
> could have
> 	 > picked it
> 	 > > up there.
> 	 > > Please help to identify this bug, I am worried it many
be
> harmful
> 	 > or
> 	 > > poisonous.
> 	 > > I am unable to send a photograph because its just to
> small, but I
> 	 > could
> 	 > > send the insect in the post to the club if this is an
> option. I
> 	 > have put
> 	 > > it on to a microscope slide.The insect died when it was
> being
> 	 > removed from
> 	 > > my hair.
> 	 > >
> 	 >
> 	 >
> 	 >
> 	 >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#3508 From: "Peter Whitlock" <heron_peter@...>
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:56 am
Subject: praying mantis hatching
heron_peter
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My day care class and I just received an ootheca in the mail today.  I
was concerned about them hatching too soon (it's still very early
pre-spring here on Cape Cod, MA) and wasn't sure what to do.  There
was a number to call where I left a message, but never heard anything
back.

I left the ootheca in its original very small container without
transferring it to the larger, ventilated container that was sent with
it while I waited for an answer and unfortunately forgot them there.
Have I killed them already?  Is there any way to delay their hatching
like storing them outside or refrigerating them?

Thank you,

Peter

Yarmouth, MA

#3509 From: "Mona Miller" <mona.miller@...>
Date: Thu Mar 6, 2008 11:52 am
Subject: Preying Mantis
runnymede12000
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Definitely the cold will delay their hatching.  I
would trying placing them in a garage or other covered area.  The fridge would
not be a bad idea.  Check the box outside to see if they have emerged.  I
would then take the egg case out of the box, wrap in papertowel and then
place in a plastic container.  This will keep it from drying out in the
frig.    Keeping them inside may have already triggered their emergence.

Mona Miller
Herndon, VA (USA) }i{ }i{ }i{
----- Original Message -----
1. praying mantis hatching
Posted by: "Peter Whitlock" heron_peter@...   heron_peter
Thu Mar 6, 2008 12:06 am (PST)
My day care class and I just received an ootheca in the mail today. I
was concerned about them hatching too soon (it's still very early
pre-spring here on Cape Cod, MA) and wasn't sure what to do. There
was a number to call where I left a message, but never heard anything
back.  I left the ootheca in its original very small container without
transferring it to the larger, ventilated container that was sent with
it while I waited for an answer and unfortunately forgot them there.
Have I killed them already? Is there any way to delay their hatching
like storing them outside or refrigerating them?
Thank you, Peter Yarmouth, MA

#3510 From: mal mcgowan <malmcgo@...>
Date: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:48 pm
Subject: need help with a bug please
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Hi,
Can you please help me identify this insect found on
the Greek island of Kefalonia? There are two pictures
attached. I'm guessing it's a cicada  - but is there a
horned variety?

many thanks

mal mcGowan


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#3511 From: "Malcolm Storey" <malcolm.storey@...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:04 am
Subject: RE: need help with a bug please
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Hi Malcolm,
It's not a cicada. It's a female bush-cricket. Don't know the Greek species
but if it was in Britain it'd be Roesel's Bush Cricket.
HTH
Malcolm Storey

> -----Original Message-----
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> Of mal mcgowan
> Sent: 10 March 2008 23:48
> To: bugclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bugclub] need help with a bug please
>
> Hi,
> Can you please help me identify this insect found on
> the Greek island of Kefalonia? There are two pictures
> attached. I'm guessing it's a cicada  - but is there a
> horned variety?
>
> many thanks
>
> mal mcGowan
>
>
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#3512 From: "Andy Chick" <andy.chick@...>
Date: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:38 am
Subject: Re: need help with a bug please
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looks abit like a female cricket

On 3/10/08, mal mcgowan <malmcgo@...> wrote:

Hi,
Can you please help me identify this insect found on
the Greek island of Kefalonia? There are two pictures
attached. I'm guessing it's a cicada - but is there a
horned variety?

many thanks

mal mcGowan

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