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Re: [cansecurity] Re: RFID & The Security Industry

Hugh
 
There are several companies..or people who believe that they have solved what they perceive as a solution, the dynamics of RF still have the best developers in a tizzy....it is not a secure format...too many intangibles which can interfere, climatic conditions, and environmental obstructions.
 
and then there is the problem...is the tag going to be active...or in-active, if it is active what will be the power source, and if it is in-active...what kind of authentication will be performed by the pylons, it can still only operates on an 8 bit format. That is why the tags are still several years from final development. Contact tags will have better information storage, but RF antenna tags are limited.
 
 
Bill

hughandrew2003 <hughandrew@...> wrote:
I am not sure who "we" are.  Are you a representative of the RFID
industry? In any event, security and identity theft are the major
concerns that I know of and there doesn't appear to a resolution
yet. I have e-mailed Howard Moster to learn what he presented to
ASIS.

In industry there  is product pull and product push. I get the
impression that in the case of RFID and in some desparation to
resolve certain throughput issues that we are facing "push" and that
we will see a questionably adequate "security and privacy" product
that will be marketed with the expectation that, once market share
is gained, the improvements will exist.

Hugh

--- In cansecurity@yahoogroups.com, "Romeo Marsico" <romeo@n...>
wrote:
> Bill / Fergus,
>

>
> I believe that what we got will do both 100% of the time.
>
> Inventory and security control.
>

>

>
> Romeo Marsico
>
> Nasa Technologies Inc.
>
> (514)977-7230
>
> www.nasa.ca
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> To: cansecurity@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cansecurity] Re: RFID & The Security Industry
>

>
> The major players are investing in the tags...not for
security..but for
> inventory control....if it works the Wal-Marts of the world will
be able to
> reduce their staff by about 40%. The most time consuming task is
taking
> inventory, replenishment is usually done in the evenings..... the
security
> factor is a small bonus......but to be abale to locate and
invintory the
> product via rf...is cost saving
>

>
> Bill
>
> "Fergus V. Keyes" <fergusk35@y...> wrote:
>
> Bill; I agree that it is not 100% at this point. But it would seem
> that there are a lot of companies (i.e Wal Mart) that are
investing
> time and money on improving RFID . I know you have a great deal
more
> experience in retail security than I have, but it would seem to me
> that when products go missing, there are only a few possible
causes.
> Internal or External theft; or Poor paperwork and/or poor
inventory
> control. It would appear that RFID will be able to at least
> determine the cause of shrinkage for a specific item. The system
> should be able to determine if the product arrived at the
warehouse;
> if it was transferred to the retail location, and when, or if, it
> was sold. This information (if it is reasonably accurate), could
> help direct Security resources to an actual problem. Was it
stolden
> or just misplaced? 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In cansecurity@yahoogroups.com, Bill <wdtcan@y...> wrote:
> > The technology is not 100% secure...it has a lot of down falls
> which are inherent in tags, but as a control tag, it has a lot of
> good dimensions. The applications will be what sells the
> concept...but to secure an item...it is only 40 to 60 % effective
> > 
> > Bill
> >
> > hughandrew2003 <hughandrew@c...> wrote:
> > --- In cansecurity@yahoogroups.com, "Fergus V. Keyes"
> <fergusk35@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Although RFID has been designed for Inventory Control, does
> anyone
> > > have any opinion on how this technolgy will affect the
Security
> > > Business?
> >
> > This is an interesting topic over which there is considerable
> debate.
> > I note that Howard Moster of Edmonton was to give a presentation
> at
> > the ASIS show on this last week. Howards e-mail is
> > hmoster@p...
> >
> > I'd like to hear views and experiences on this as well.
> >
> > Hugh
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Although RFID has been designed for Inventory Control, does anyone have any opinion on how this technolgy will affect the Security Business?...
Fergus V. Keyes
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... This is an interesting topic over which there is considerable debate. I note that Howard Moster of Edmonton was to give a presentation at the ASIS show on...
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Sep 22, 2005
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The technology is not 100% secure...it has a lot of down falls which are inherent in tags, but as a control tag, it has a lot of good dimensions. The...
Bill
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Sep 22, 2005
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Bill; I agree that it is not 100% at this point. But it would seem that there are a lot of companies (i.e Wal Mart) that are investing time and money on...
Fergus V. Keyes
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The major players are investing in the tags...not for security..but for inventory control....if it works the Wal-Marts of the world will be able to reduce...
Bill
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Bill / Fergus, I believe that what we got will do both 100% of the time. Inventory and security control. Romeo Marsico Nasa Technologies Inc. (514)977-7230 ...
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I am not sure who "we" are. Are you a representative of the RFID industry? In any event, security and identity theft are the major concerns that I know of and...
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Sep 23, 2005
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Hugh There are several companies..or people who believe that they have solved what they perceive as a solution, the dynamics of RF still have the best...
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