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> �ndice de 'TRADUCIR (CON) SOFTWARE LIBRE'
>
>    Introducci�n: traducci�n, formaci�n, tecnolog�a y libertad .
> OSCAR DIAZ FOUCES & MARTA GARC�A GONZ�LEZ
>     (Facultade de Filolox�a e Traduci�n. Universidade de Vigo)
>
>    Free software for translators: is the market ready for a change? .
> MARTA GARC�A GONZ�LEZ
>     (Facultade de Filolox�a e Traduci�n. Universidade de Vigo)
>
>    Herramientas libres para la traducci�n en entorno MS Windows .
> MARCOS C�NOVAS & RICHARD SAMSON
>     (Facultat de Ci�ncies Humanes, Traducci� i Documentaci�. Universitat
> de Vic)
>
>    Ferramentas livres para traduzir com GNU/Linux e Mac OS X .
> OSCAR DIAZ FOUCES
>     (Facultade de Filolox�a e Traduci�n. Universidade de Vigo)
>
>    Formatos libres en traducci�n y localizaci�n .
> MANUEL MATA
>     (C.E.S. Felipe II. Universidad Computense de Madrid)
>
>    OpenTrad. Plataforma de traduci�n autom�tica de c�digo aberto .
> JOS� RAMOM PICHEL CAMPOS
>     (imaxin|Software)
>
>    Interfaces web na traduci�n de proxectos comunitarios de software libre
> .
> FELIPE GIL CASTI�EIRA
>     (E.T.S.E Telecomunicaci�n. Universidade de Vigo)
>
>    Ordem no caos no processo de localiza��o em software livre .
> CL�UDIO F. FILHO
>     (BrOffice.org)
>
>    En espa�ol por libre: traducci�n de software .
> N�RIA VIDAL CASTELLET
>     (Facultat de Ci�ncies Humanes i Socials. Universitat Jaume I)
>
>    Dos ejemplos de aplicaci�n del software libre en la docencia de la
> traducci�n .
> MARCOS C�NOVAS & RICHARD SAMSON
>     (Facultat de Ci�ncies Humanes, Traducci� i Documentaci�. Universitat
> de Vic)
> >>>
> Prueba de Lectura de 'TRADUCIR (CON) SOFTWARE LIBRE'
>
> Es ya un lugar com�n considerar que la codificaci�n acad�mica de los
> estudios sobre la Traducci�n puede datarse en el �ltimo cuarto del siglo
> XX, por lo menos en lo que al mundo occidental se refiere. Esa g�nesis ha
> coincidido en el tiempo con algunos factores sociopol�ticos de
> extraordinaria relevancia. Nos referimos, por supuesto, a la globalizaci�n
> del mercado y al desarrollo acelerado de las nuevas tecnolog�as de la
> informaci�n y las comunicaciones. Esas dos circunstancias han tenido el
> resultado previsible de un incremento exponencial de las oportunidades
> para los profesionales de la gesti�n ling��stica, por un lado, y,
> comple�mentariamente, el de su necesaria adaptaci�n al uso de nuevas
> herramientas y estrategias para llevar a cabo su labor.
> En efecto, las personas que tienen en los servicios ling��sticos su nicho
> profesional no pueden permitirse ya trabajar con los instrumentos y los
> soportes de anta�o: el papel y las m�quinas de escribir, mec�nicas o
> electr�nicas, han cedido su lugar a los ordenadores y a los formatos
> digitales. Aquello que tradicionalmente hab�a sido una actividad artesanal
> ha ido ganando un perfil cada vez m�s tecnol�gico.
> En justa correspondencia, las personas dedicadas a la formaci�n de
> traductores han ido incorporando a su actividad los avances tecnol�gicos,
> con mayor o menor agilidad. Esos avances tienen que ver, desde luego, con
> la atenci�n a los nuevos espacios profesionales y con la incorporaci�n a
> las pr�cticas docente e investigadora de las nuevas herramientas y las
> nuevas especialidades. Ilustra ese cambio la creaci�n de nuevas
> asignaturas, cursos de especializaci�n y postgraduaciones sobre
> localizaci�n, traducci�n multimedia, o de p�ginas y sitios de Internet; la
> aparici�n de publicaciones peri�dicas consagradas, de manera m�s o menos
> espec�fica, a este �mbito (MultiLingual Computing & Technology,
> Globalisation Insider, Machine Translation, Tradum�tica...); de
> monograf�as sobre las nuevas actividades (como Esselink 2000, Sprung 2000,
> Yunker 2002, Chandler 2005, Reineke 2005 o Dunne 2006); sobre las nuevas
> herramientas y formatos (p.e. Auesterm�hl 2001, Savourel 2001, Corpas &
> Varela 2003, Somers 2003); en ocasiones, con alg�n tipo de orientaci�n
> hacia la formaci�n de traductores (O'Hagan & Ashworth 2002, Pym,
> Perestrenko & Starink 2006); y, a veces, hasta presentando una (saludable)
> visi�n cr�tica (Torres del Rey 2005). El n�mero de ejemplos citados no
> hace justicia, ciertamente, al importante volumen de nuevo material que se
> ocupa de describir y explicar las diversas facetas del nuevo contexto
> tecnol�gico en que se desarrolla la gesti�n ling��stica.
> Parece claro que las tecnolog�as digitales se han instalado con fuerza,
> tanto en el mundo de las personas que tienen en la traducci�n su actividad
> profesional, como en el de aquellas que se ocupan de formarlas. Sin
> embargo, llegados a este punto, conviene se�alar que parece existir una
> clara unanimidad en la preferencia por el uso de determinado tipo de
> herramientas inform�ticas, concretamente los productos de car�cter cerrado
> y comercial. Nos referimos a aquellos cuyo c�digo fuente no es p�blico, ni
> est� autorizada su modificaci�n, y que no pueden copiarse ni distribuirse
> libremente, por estar sujeto su uso a licencias que restringen esas
> posibilidades.
> De acuerdo con la definici�n de la Free Software Foundation (www.fsf.org),
> el software libre se distingue justamente por lo contrario: su c�digo
> fuente es accesible, es posible copiarlo y distribuirlo sin cortapisas, y
> tambi�n es leg�timo modificarlo y poner las mejoras a disposici�n de la
> comunidad. Eso es lo que establece la Licencia P�blica General (General
> Public License, GPL), una de la m�s comunes en el mundo del software libre
> y una referencia imprescindible para entender lo que significa GNU/Linux.
> A partir del c�digo producido por el proyecto GNU (GNU is not UNIX) y del
> n�cleo Linux, creado por Linus Torvals, contamos ahora con un excelente
> sistema operativo libre, que est� en el origen de varias centenas de
> distribuciones (sistemas operativos con conjuntos de aplicaciones, como
> Debian, Ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuse o Slackware) gestionadas por una
> extensa comunidad de voluntarios en todo el mundo. Entre esos voluntarios
> se encuentran los desarrolladores (las personas que escriben y validan el
> c�digo) y tambi�n, por supuesto, los traductores/localizadores que hacen
> posible que todo el sistema est� disponible en un n�mero extraordinario de
> lenguas. Este modelo es, con matices, muy semejante al que sigue el
> desarrollo de aplicaciones libres para sistemas operativos que no lo son,
> como Microsoft Windows o Apple Mac OSX. Aunque pueda sorprender a alg�n
> lector, debemos recordar que existe un n�mero creciente de proyectos
> empresariales basados completamente en el software libre, o que lo apoyan
> como un activo estrat�gico. No nos referimos a peque�os negocios
> gestionados por estudiantes de Inform�tica en el garaje de sus casas, sino
> a empresas solventes como RedHat, Sun, Novell, o incluso a otras, cuyo
> nombre puede resultar m�s familiar, como IBM o Hewlet-Packard. �Cu�l es su
> modelo de negocio? Desde luego, no est� basado en licencias, pero tambi�n
> es cierto que la venta de licencias no es el �nico medio de subsistencia
> de este tipo de empresas. La asistencia t�cnica, la creaci�n de
> aplicaciones espec�ficas, el mantenimiento y actualizaci�n, la formaci�n,
> la documentaci�n o la venta de productos en los que el software representa
> apenas un valor a�adido (videoconsolas, tel�fonos m�viles, ordenadores...)
> son buenos ejemplos del extraordinario recorrido comercial que existe, m�s
> all� de la simple venta de licencias. De hecho, nada impide a esas
> empresas -ni a ellas ni a nadie- vender software libre... siempre que
> respeten la libertad del comprador de copiar y distribuir el producto
> adquirido, o de alterarlo y venderlo �l mismo, o la de cualquier persona
> de acceder al c�digo fuente y hacer lo propio. En realidad, es f�cil
> encontrar en los quioscos revistas de Inform�tica que incluyen en el
> precio de portada un ced� con una distribuci�n Linux que, por lo tanto,
> est� siendo objetivamente vendida, aunque tambi�n pueda ser descargada de
> forma gratuita desde el correspondiente sitio de Internet.
> Es cierto, no obstante, que, acostumbrados a un modelo de negocio basado
> estrictamente en las licencias de uso comerciales, la mayor parte de los
> usuarios comunes tiene una noci�n bastante vaga de lo que pueda ser el
> software libre. En realidad, muchos de ellos utilizan programas
> inform�ticos como Mozilla Firefox, el gestor de v�deo digital VLC o el
> paquete ofim�tico OpenOffice.org sin ser conscientes de que son programas
> libres o, como mucho, sabiendo que son gratuitos y sin hacerse m�s
> preguntas al respecto. Por supuesto, el n�mero de usuarios de sistemas
> operativos libres, como GNU/Linux, contin�a siendo minoritario, a pesar de
> la extraordinaria calidad t�cnica de los mismos, de su facilidad de
> configuraci�n y de la simplicidad de uso que han alcanzado en los �ltimos
> a�os algunas distribuciones basadas en el n�cleo Linux, como las antes
> citadas Ubuntu (www.ubuntu.com), Mandriva (www.mandriva.com) o OpenSuse
> (www.opensuse.org). Esta circunstancia resulta todav�a m�s parad�jica si
> tenemos en cuenta que los tres sistemas a los que nos acabamos de referir
> (y otros muchos m�s) tienen car�cter gratuito y su uso (por lo menos en
> teor�a) es alentado en todo el mundo por diversas instituciones, de �mbito
> regional, estatal e internacional, entre otros motivos por el uso que
> hacen de est�ndares industriales, p�blicos y abiertos.
> A priori, y lamentablemente, no parece que los profesionales de la
> traducci�n y los formadores de traductores sean una excepci�n en el
> panorama general de aparente desinter�s por ese tipo de productos. Sin
> entrar en m�s detalles (como la revisi�n de la bibliograf�a reciente, de
> los informes internacionales, la consulta de los foros y las listas
> especializados o la simple experiencia cotidiana), algunos datos
> contenidos en este libro parecen apuntar en la direcci�n de un
> desconocimiento bastante notable de las posibilidades que brindan a
> profesionales y formadores.
> En los cap�tulos que conforman el presente volumen pretendemos aportar una
> perspectiva general sobre el software libre en el �mbito de la traducci�n,
> tanto desde el plano profesional como desde el formativo. Para ello, hemos
> querido presentar recursos e instrumentos libres, as� como experiencias y
> propuestas pr�cticas para ambas dimensiones. Adem�s, hemos intentado
> contribuir a sacar a la luz el trabajo ingente de la comunidad de
> traductores voluntarios de los proyectos libres, con el objetivo
> (indisimulado) de atraer la atenci�n de la comunidad acad�mica del �mbito
> de la traducci�n. En efecto, para cualquier persona interesada por los
> proyectos libres no deja de resultar chocante el contraste entre la
> colaboraci�n entusiasta de formadores y formandos de �mbitos tecnol�gicos
> y la aparente desidia de sus colegas de los cursos de lenguas y
> traducci�n, en lo que a proyectos de localizaci�n de software libre se
> refiere (por no hablar, claro est�, de los proyectos de desarrollo). Con
> este volumen nos proponemos contribuir a revertir una situaci�n que
> parece, cuando menos, sorprendente.
> Debemos advertir que este libro no es un manual de software libre para la
> traducci�n (una obra que probablemente merecer�a la pena escribir), ni
> mucho menos un manual de Linux (ya existen muchos y excelentes, buena
> parte de ellos libres y gratuitos). Nuestro objetivo fundamental es
> estimular la curiosidad de traductores y docentes hacia este �mbito, as�
> como ofrecerles un buen n�mero de pistas para incorporar los productos
> libres a sus respectivos espacios profesionales. Asumimos que, para ambos
> perfiles, son necesarias (o debieran serlo) una pizca de curiosidad y una
> buena dosis de capacidad de adaptaci�n, especialmente en lo que se refiere
> a las nuevas tecnolog�as.
> Todos los trabajos que componen este volumen pueden ser le�dos de forma
> independiente, aunque intentan formar un conjunto arm�nico. Por ello,
> algunos de los temas son recurrentes, algunas explicaciones son
> complementarias y, en la medida de lo posible, se ha intentado poner en
> relaci�n los diferentes cap�tulos con remisiones internas, que pudieran
> enriquecer la lectura.
> En cuanto a la estructura, a modo de introducci�n general al asunto que da
> t�tulo al trabajo, Marta Garc�a (�Free software for translators. Is the
> market ready for a change?) presenta los resultados de una encuesta
> realizada entre profesionales de la traducci�n de diferentes pa�ses,
> destinada a estudiar el conocimiento que dichos profesionales tienen del
> software libre y el uso que hacen del mismo. Junto con preguntas sobre el
> tipo de aplicaciones utilizadas con mayor frecuencia, tanto libres como
> propietarias, los participantes deb�an responder otras relativas a su
> percepci�n de los posibles problemas que puede plantear el uso de software
> libre en la pr�ctica profesional y al peso que las preferencias de sus
> clientes puede tener en su elecci�n de determinados programas frente a
> otros. De esta forma, se pretende obtener una perspectiva global de la
> penetraci�n del software libre en el �mbito profesional de la traducci�n,
> al tiempo que se detectan posibles carencias formativas y lagunas de
> informaci�n en la comunidad traductora sobre este tipo de herramientas.
> Tras este primer acercamiento al uso del software libre en el mundo de la
> traducci�n profesional y, en cierto modo, como respuesta al estado de la
> cuesti�n perfilado en el mismo, Marcos C�novas y Richard Samson
> (�Herramientas libres para la traducci�n en entorno MS Windows�) y Oscar
> Diaz Fouces (�Ferramentas livres para traduzir com GNU/Linux e Mac OS X�)
> presentan sendos cat�logos de software libre relevante para traductores y
> utilizable en entorno MS Windows y entornos GNU/Linux y Mac OS X
> respectivamente. Ambos cap�tulos tratan no s�lo de ofrecer un listado de
> herramientas de software libre que puedan resultar �tiles para el trabajo
> diario de los traductores (y, por lo tanto, para los formadores de
> traductores), sino de describir las caracter�sticas -y, en ocasiones, las
> ventajas- de dichos programas frente a herramientas similares de car�cter
> propietario.
> A continuaci�n, Manuel Mata (�Formatos libres en traducci�n y
> localizaci�n�) aporta un extenso trabajo dedicado al an�lisis de los
> formatos libres, que contribuir� a erradicar las dudas y los miedos
> respecto a la supuesta �incompatibilidad� de las diferentes herramientas
> libres que existen hoy en d�a a disposici�n de traductores y
> localizadores. Su exposici�n pone de manifiesto que los formatos empleados
> por los programas libres se ajustan a est�ndares ampliamente documentados
> y avalados por organismos internacionales, lo que elimina los supuestos
> problemas de compatibilidad a los que muchos traductores aluden como
> principal justificaci�n para preferir el software propietario frente al
> libre.
> Jos� Ramom Pichel (�OpenTrad. Plataforma de traduci�n autom�tica de c�digo
> aberto�) describe una experiencia concreta de desarrollo de una plataforma
> de traducci�n autom�tica de c�digo abierto, OpenTrad, en la que se aunaron
> los esfuerzos de la comunidad universitaria (representada por las
> Universidades de Vigo, Alicante, Pa�s Vasco y Polit�cnica de Catalu�a) y
> de entidades privadas (encarnadas en tres empresas: imaxin|software, Eleka
> S.L. y la Fundaci�n Eluyar). En su trabajo, Pichel demuestra que el
> software libre no est� re�ido con la iniciativa empresarial privada, sino
> que, por el contrario, ambos elementos pueden coexistir sin problemas.
> En su cap�tulo dedicado a las interfaces de traducci�n web para la
> localizaci�n de software libre, Felipe Gil Casti�eira (�Interfaces de
> traduci�n web�) realiza un breve repaso por la historia y la evoluci�n de
> las herramientas de traducci�n web, que pueden facilitar la integraci�n en
> proyectos de localizaci�n de software libre de personas que, sin tener
> conocimientos avanzados sobre inform�tica y sobre las aplicaciones
> seleccionadas, s� pueden aportar sus competencias en el �mbito de la
> traducci�n. Tras una visi�n general de las herramientas y su utilidad, el
> autor centra su atenci�n en dos de las aplicaciones m�s populares:
> Launchpad Translations y Pootle, describiendo la forma en que se utilizan
> para casos concretos de localizaci�n de software libre en Galicia.
> <<<
>


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G'day everyone

I've been asked to design a self-study training module with the theme
"opensource".  If you are passionate about opensource, and you think
you'd be able to fill in the blanks of my limited knowledge, please help
me out.

Background:  The grant-making organisation IDRC is funding a large
project in Africa called ANLOC, which is aimed at promoting ITC
empowerment in Africa, with special reference to language and
localisation issues.  There are several subprojects within ANLOC (eg
formalising 100 locales, creating a 2500 word glossary in 50 local
languages, writing keyboard software for non-Latin languages, etc) and
one of these subprojects is to write self-study training material
specifically for African localisers (focusing on four languages or
regions).  The training guides will be incorporated in the the TILP CLP
Level 1 (a certification course for localisers).  The course content is
licensed Creative Commons.  Since the company designing one of the
African training modules, Translate.org.za, is also closely associated
with opensource localisation in general, TILP has asked us to produce an
additional training module about opensource in general.

So, I'm to write a self-study training module about opensource as a
topic.  Over the coming weeks I'll expand on the initial schematic that
my company and I have agreed upon.  If you think you can contribute
(even if only to give comments or criticism, or to help brainstorm some
issues), please visit our wiki, register a username, and then add to it
your thoughts.

http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/tilp/

I look forward to hearing some comments.  The wiki pages are just
temporary so I can gather ideas -- but the final course will be made
available by Translate.org.za as well as by TILP.

Feel free to repost my message.

Samuel

G'day everyone

I thought I'd forward this message to y'all.

Samuel

==

From: F Wolff <friedel@...>
Organization: Translate.org.za

We are releasing version 0.3.0 of Virtaal today.

There are far too many improvements to list, but some of the new
features include:

    * Suggestions from several sources of translation memory, including
Open-Tran.eu

    * A localisation tutorial built into the help menu. Now you can
recommend Virtaal to new translators on your team and let Virtaal do
their initial training!

    * The possibility to migrate your settings and translation memory from
other FOSS translation tools.

    * A new plug-in system that will make it easier for people to
customise their Virtaal installations and for developers to contribute
new functionality. If you ever wanted your translation tool to say "You
are awesome!" every time you finish a string, you can now do this very
easily!

Of course, all the people who helped to translate the user interface for
Virtaal are awesome, and we thank everybody for contributing
translations in more than 10 languages. Not bad for a 0.3 release!
Please continue to contribute your translations for coming releases.

Read more about Virtaal:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/virtaal/index
We welcome people to join our project.

You can download Virtaal here:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=91920&package_id=270877

The Windows setup.exe installer contains all necessary dependencies.

In the Translate Project you will also find installers for Fedora,
Mandriva, and soon Debian and Ubuntu. Remember that you will need
Translate Toolkit 1.3.0 with all of its dependencies, and a few more
that are mentioned on the Virtaal website.

Thank you to everybody who helped with programming, testing, translation
and packaging.

Happy translating
Friedel

Dear Colleagues,

For 10 years already we are developing efficiency products for
freelance translators and translation agencies. We have started from
Translation Office 3000 and each year we have released new products
suggested by translators.

And now we are releasing our 11th product, which for many months has
been the most awaited software by our users. It is translation memory
tool.

Meet AnyMem! :) It has a lot of features but what is main about it
is that:

1) it is user-friendly compared to other tools;
2) it is very reasonably priced compared to other tools;
3) we will continue to develop it based on your suggestions.

So it is a kind of 3 small revolutions on-demand. :)

You can download free 30-day evaluation version from
http://www.anymem.com

I will be happy to hear your opinion about this computer-assisted
translation tool and answer your questions. And you are always welcome
to write to our technical support at http://www.aithelp.com

Sincerely,
Vladimir.
=============================================
Vladimir Pedchenko,
AIT Software Development Team
Professional Tools for Freelance Translators
and Translation Agencies
http://www.translation3000.com
=============================================

G'day everyone

Friedel Wolff of Translate.org.za just posted the following message
(attached below).

Let me know what you think
Samuel

==

I am very pleased to announce the first official release of Virtaal.
Virtaal is a new program developed as part of the Translate project -
the community creating Pootle and the Translate Toolkit. This is a
natural extension to our range of software to help localisers work more
efficiently and with higher quality.

Virtaal is a graphical translation program with a simple layout. It is
built on the powerful API of the Translate Toolkit.  “Virtaal” is an
Afrikaans play on words meaning “For Language” and sounds like the word
for translation.

Some features that might be of interest:

   * Support for many localisation formats: Gettext .po and .mo, XLIFF,
TMX, TBX, WordFast TM, Qt .ts and .qph.

   * Autocorrect and autocomplete

   * Syntax highlighting and display of comments and context

 * Searching with regular expressions and Unicode normalisation

   * Spell checker for the translation and original text

Read more about Virtaal and our plans for the future:
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/virtaal/index
We welcome people to join our project.

You can download Virtaal here:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=91920&package_id=270877

The Windows setup.exe installer contains all necessary dependencies.

In the Translate Project you will also find installers for Fedora,
Mandriva, and soon Debian and Ubuntu. Remember that you will need
Translate Toolkit 1.2 with all of its dependencies, and a few more that
are mentioned on the Virtaal website.

Thank you to everybody who helped with programming, testing, translation
and packaging.

Happy translating
Friedel

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and Open Source software with over ten years of Web experience.  He has been the
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the World. TikiWiki is used in tens of thousands of web
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which is a testament to the scope of the project. TikiWiki was among a handful
of community-driven free source projects to be named to the Seventh Annual
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digital content industry."

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Translation at the European Court of Auditors.

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Alain Desilets, National Research Council, Canada
Andreas Eisele, Saarland University, Germany
Mohammad Daoud, National Institute of Informatics, Japan
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Manal Ahmin, ANLOC, Morocco
Julia Makoushina, Palex Languages and Software, Russia
Hendrik J. Kockaert, Lessius College, Belgium
Sven Andra, Andra AG, Germany
Dave Calvert, TransForm, Germany
Fola Yahaya, Strategic Agenda, UK
Jon Riding, BFBS, UK
Mark Shuttleworth and Daniela Ford, Imperial College London, UK
Maria Fernandez Parra and Pius ten Hacken, Swansea University
Isabel Duran-Munoz, University of Malaga

There are panels looking at the past 30 years and at the future, as well as
ample opportunities to network with other colleagues in the field.

For more information, including how to book your place, please visit:
www.aslib.com/conferences.  The early bird fee expires on 1st October, so book
your place soon!  Also, if there are 3 of you coming from the same organization,
the third delegate can attend for a specially reduced fee.
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TRANSLATING AND THE COMPUTER 30 Conference
27-28 November 2008, London
Supported by BCS Natural Language Translation Specialist Group, EAMT, IAMT, ITI,
IoL, LISA and TILP.  Sponsored by CNGL and LTC.

Come and join us at the Holiday Inn Camden Lock to celebrate the 30th conference
with an exciting programme of papers and panels.  The programme, and other
details, can be found at www.aslib.com/conferences

The keynote presentation on the first day of the conference is by Marc Laporte,
AvanTech.net, Canada.  Marc Laporte is an expert on Wikis, Online collaboration,
and Open Source software with over ten years of Web experience.  He has been the
project administrator for TikiWiki CMS/Groupware since 2003. TikiWiki is the
Wiki Way applied to software development where over 170 people have contributed
to the source code, making it one of the largest open source Web applications in
the World. TikiWiki is used in tens of thousands of web
sites/projects/communities/companies and has been picked by Firefox for their
support site. The vast collaborative documentation effort is 960 printed pages,
which is a testament to the scope of the project. TikiWiki was among a handful
of community-driven free source projects to be named to the Seventh Annual
EContent 100. The annual list contains the companies "that matter most in the
digital content industry."

This year's speakers include:
Alain Desilets, National Research Council, Canada
Andreas Eisele, Saarland University, Germany
Mohammad Daoud, National Institute of Informatics, Japan
and Joseph Fourier University, France
Manal Ahmin, ANLOC, Morocco
Julia Makoushina, Palex Languages and Software, Russia
Hendrik J. Kockaert, Lessius College, Belgium
Sven Andra, Andra AG, Germany
Dave Calvert, TransForm, Germany
Fola Yahaya, Strategic Agenda, UK
Jon Riding, BFBS, UK
Mark Shuttleworth and Daniela Ford, Imperial College London, UK
Maria Fernandez Parra and Pius ten Hacken, Swansea University
Isabel Duran-Munoz, University of Malaga

There are panels looking at the past 30 years and at the future, as well as
ample opportunities to network with other colleagues in the field.

For more information, including how to book your place, please visit:
www.aslib.com/conferences.  The early bird fee expires on 1st October, so book
your place soon!  Also, if there are 3 of you coming from the same organization,
the third delegate can attend for a specially reduced fee.
Regards

Nicole Adamides, ASLIB Training
The Holywell Centre, 1 Phipp Street, London, EC2A 4PS
Tel: 020 7613 3031 Fax: 020 7613 5080
www.aslib.com/training Email: training@...



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Danilo Nogueira wrote:
> Will someone please
>
> - enlighten me as to whatever BLEU means in this context?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilingual_evaluation_understudy

"The central idea behind the metric is that the closer a machine
translation is to a professional human translation, the better it is."

Now does my post make a little more sense?

Samuel

Will someone please

- enlighten me as to whatever BLEU means in this context?
- do something about our friend mr. �lvaro Diaz?




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--- In catmt@yahoogroups.com, "Samuel Murray (Home)" <leuce@...> wrote:
>
> Samuel Murray (Home) wrote:
>
> > Bacchus BG wrote:
>
> >> I look for BLEU rates of the following language pairs:
> >> English-Spanish and Spanish- English for "Google translate" and
> >> "Bablefish".
>
> > You could do similar analysis by aligning the reference translations
> > into TMs, then reverse the TMs, and then performing CAT
translation on
> > the machine translation target text.  This will not be a BLEU
analysis
> > but it will be a non-programmer's solution to evaluating machine
> > translation in a way which is remotely similar to BLEU (since it
would
> > result in a percentage count).
>
> Okay, I just did it, and here are the results.
>
> Samuel
>
> ===================================
>
> = A very simple statistical analysis of two MT systems =
>
> == Method ==
>
> 1. Get an exact translation of an English text, to be used as human
> translated reference text.  I used Marina Soldati's sample translations
> at her ProZ.com profile at http://www.proz.com/profile/108251 (used
> without permission).
> 2. Align the reference translation and turn it into a TM.
> 3. Reverse the TM (i.e. switch source and target languages).
> 4. Get Google and Babelfish to translate the source text (note that
> Babelfish does not indicate paragraph breaks).
> 5. Use a CAT tool such as Wordfast to translate the MT translations
> back, using the reversed TM from the reference translation, and note
the
> sentence fuzzy match percentages (remember to use a fresh reversed TM
> for each test, as the CAT tool may adjust the TM during the first test).
>
> == Statistical result (numbers) ==
>
> === Google ===
>
> Raw match percentages: 0, 76, 69, 83, 0, 0, 66, 0, 64, 0, 0, 73, 0, 0,
> 0, 100, 80, 0, 88, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 62, 0, 0, 0, 64, 0, 0
> Total of match percentages: 825
> Median (all): 0
> Average (all): 25
> Median (non-zero only): 73
> Average (non-zero only): 75
>
> === Babelfish ===
>
> Raw match percentages: 0, 74, 65, 60, 0, 0, 64, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
> 62, 0, 0, 84, 0, 69, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 68
> Total of match percentages: 564
> Median (all): 0
> Average (all): 17
> Median (non-zero only): 66
> Average (non-zero only): 68
>
> == Comparative result of numbers ==
>
> === Matches above 60% ===
>
> Google gives 11 matches
> Babelfish gives 8 matches
>
> === One-on-one comparison ===
>
> These are the sentences for which both MT translations showed a 60%
> match or higher with the reference text.
>
> Google : Babelfish
> 76 : 74
> 69 : 65
> 83 : 60
> 66 : 64
> 80 : 62
> 88 : 84
>
> ==
>
> Samuel
>



Thank you very much Samuel. I'm quite content with that statistic
given in percentages.
It was pretty good response.

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[multiposted from rosetta-l]

G'day everyone

Do any of you know of TM systems that use a thesaurus in the matching
process?  I know Wordfast uses a thesaurus for weeding out useless terms
while doing a term extraction, but it doesn't use the thesaurus when
doing fuzzy matching of translated segments, and I know of no other tool
that does it either.  Do any of you know?

The idea came to me while watching Jost's "objective" videos of the
various CAT tools on his Jeromobot web site.  Normally, the example
sentence "Die Katze ist schwartz" would be considered a 50% match of
"Der Hund ist weiss", and would therefore not be proposed by the TM
system.  However, in English, the words Der and Die have (almost always)
the same translation, namely "The".  If a thesaurus could tell the TM
system that Der and Die are functional equivalents or near-equivalents,
the match percentage would have been 75% (or 74%, if the thesaurus
triggers a 1% match penalty per word).

For translator who prefer to see as few matches as possible (I'm not one
of those), the process can also work in reverse, by telling the TM
system not to regard "The" as a matchable word when translating into German.

I suspect the ideal implementation of the above thing would be
user-created lists per language pair, so it's not a real thesaurus.
However, I can also see that a good thesaurus (with near-synonyms only)
could be useful in increasing possibly useful matches.

Does this concept ring a bell anywhere?

Samuel

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Samuel Murray (Home) wrote:

> Bacchus BG wrote:

>> I look for BLEU rates of the following language pairs:
>> English-Spanish and Spanish- English for "Google translate" and
>> "Bablefish".

> You could do similar analysis by aligning the reference translations
> into TMs, then reverse the TMs, and then performing CAT translation on
> the machine translation target text.  This will not be a BLEU analysis
> but it will be a non-programmer's solution to evaluating machine
> translation in a way which is remotely similar to BLEU (since it would
> result in a percentage count).

Okay, I just did it, and here are the results.

Samuel

===================================

= A very simple statistical analysis of two MT systems =

== Method ==

1. Get an exact translation of an English text, to be used as human
translated reference text.  I used Marina Soldati's sample translations
at her ProZ.com profile at http://www.proz.com/profile/108251 (used
without permission).
2. Align the reference translation and turn it into a TM.
3. Reverse the TM (i.e. switch source and target languages).
4. Get Google and Babelfish to translate the source text (note that
Babelfish does not indicate paragraph breaks).
5. Use a CAT tool such as Wordfast to translate the MT translations
back, using the reversed TM from the reference translation, and note the
sentence fuzzy match percentages (remember to use a fresh reversed TM
for each test, as the CAT tool may adjust the TM during the first test).

== Statistical result (numbers) ==

=== Google ===

Raw match percentages: 0, 76, 69, 83, 0, 0, 66, 0, 64, 0, 0, 73, 0, 0,
0, 100, 80, 0, 88, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 62, 0, 0, 0, 64, 0, 0
Total of match percentages: 825
Median (all): 0
Average (all): 25
Median (non-zero only): 73
Average (non-zero only): 75

=== Babelfish ===

Raw match percentages: 0, 74, 65, 60, 0, 0, 64, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
62, 0, 0, 84, 0, 69, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 68
Total of match percentages: 564
Median (all): 0
Average (all): 17
Median (non-zero only): 66
Average (non-zero only): 68

== Comparative result of numbers ==

=== Matches above 60% ===

Google gives 11 matches
Babelfish gives 8 matches

=== One-on-one comparison ===

These are the sentences for which both MT translations showed a 60%
match or higher with the reference text.

Google : Babelfish
76 : 74
69 : 65
83 : 60
66 : 64
80 : 62
88 : 84

==

Samuel

Bacchus BG wrote:

> I look for BLEU rates of the following language pairs:
> English-Spanish and Spanish- English for "Google translate" and
> "Bablefish".

It would depend on the reference texts, wouldn't it?  The questions is,
where can you find exact translations in EN-ES and ES-EN for free?  The
Wikipedia versions are often not exact translations.  But... at ProZ.com
and possibly other translator portals they offer users the ability to
put samples of translation up on their profiles.  This may be a place to
mine exact translations, to be used as reference texts in BLEU analysis.

You could do similar analysis by aligning the reference translations
into TMs, then reverse the TMs, and then performing CAT translation on
the machine translation target text.  This will not be a BLEU analysis
but it will be a non-programmer's solution to evaluating machine
translation in a way which is remotely similar to BLEU (since it would
result in a percentage count).

In a translated Wordfast document, the match percentages are contained
in the document itself, so it would be possible to do lots of text in a
short time.  In OmegaT, you can set a minimum match threshold for
automatic match insertion, but if you want to note individual match
percentages, you'd have to sit there and watch the screen in real time.

Some Gettext tools offer fuzzy translation with a customisable match
percentage, so you could run such an operation several times with
different fuzzy thresholds and count the files using pocount to see the
overall percentages for large numbers of files.

Samuel

Hello,

I look for BLEU rates of the following language pairs:

English-Spanish and Spanish- English for "Google translate" and

"Bablefish",

I hope someone will share this here?



Thanks in advance.




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On 5 mai 08, at 18:54, Gudmund Areskoug wrote:

>> I
>> want to use OmegaT to translate PO files but unfortunately OmegaT
>> puts
>> the source text in the target field for strings that are not
>> translated,
>> and that interferes with my other PO tools which regard any string
>> with
>> content to be a translated string.
>
> If OmegaT does that without setting the strings Fuzzy, it should very
> definitely be changed, IMO.

The problem here is of course something that needs correction but it
is far from being simple. For OmegaT, msgstr contents does not exist.
_That_ is the problem.


Jean-Christophe Helary

------------------------------------
http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/

Hello Samuel,

Samuel Murray (Home) skrev:
> Do you know of tools that remove untranslated strings from a PO file, or
> that turns source=target strings in a PO file to source-only strings?

I *think* I've seen someone mention such a thing (a script) in either
the kde-i18n list or the gnome-i18n list within the last few months.

Not sure though, sorry. Can't find it.

> I
> want to use OmegaT to translate PO files but unfortunately OmegaT puts
> the source text in the target field for strings that are not translated,
> and that interferes with my other PO tools which regard any string with
> content to be a translated string.

If OmegaT does that without setting the strings Fuzzy, it should very
definitely be changed, IMO.

> Alternatively, is there a tool that can translate a PO file with 100%
> matches from a TMX file?

DVX?

Not sure about Lokalize or Kbabel. Other places I'd look would be
Swordfish and Heartsome, but you've probably thought about them.

BR,
Gudmund

[also posted on the OmT users list]

G'day everyone

The latest unreleased version of the Translate Toolkit contains a tool
for converting RC files to PO and back.

http://translate.sourceforge.net/snapshots/
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/toolkit/rc2po

This tool was developed for among other reasons to help translators
translate Wine:

http://wiki.winehq.org/Translating

...but RC is also used by other localisation projects, no?

If anyone here has any comments about this, I'd like to hear about it.

Samuel

Hi,

We're proud to announce the availability of TinyTM V0.1,
a small but powerful open-source translation memory. Below

I have attached below a press release and also part of a
newsletter from FOLT (http://www.folt.org/). FOLT is a kind
of German translation industry association.

So please have a look at TinyTM and let us know what you
think. In particular, please download and check the software.
We've setup a demo server, so that you just need to install
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Barcelona, April 17th, 2008: TinyTM, an open-source project producing
translation memory (TM) software, announces the release of Version V0.1 of
TinyTM. This initial build includes a TM client for Microsoft Word and a TM
server based on a PostgreSQL database.

"The goal of TinyTM is to deliver a commercial-grade translation memory as
open-source software," says Frank Bergmann, the initiator of the project.
"This is an open-source project in its first phase, and this version is not
yet ready for TM end users. However, V0.1 should provide developers and
other interested parties with a clear idea about the future direction of the
project and its viability."

TinyTM is an open-source translation memory featuring a client-server
architecture, fuzzy matching, and TMX support. V0.1 consists of a
translation client for Word 2003, a TM server based on the PostgreSQL 8.2
database, and an integration with the ]project-open[ translation management
software.

TinyTM has been inspired by the FOLT (Forum Open Language Tools --
www.folt.org) working group and its aim to "create a translation memory
system as Open Source." Initiating TinyTM, Bergmann was able to integrate
FOLT ideas with experience from ]project-open[. However, there is no direct
link between TinyTM and ]project-open[: TinyTM has been designed to be a
completely independent open-source project "hosted" by FOLT or a similar
industry association.

For details on TinyTM please visit http://tinytm.sourceforge.net/.
Please see the "Participate!" page for details on how to collaborate with
the project.

Press Contact:

	 Frank Bergmann
	 Project Initiator

	 Ronda de Sant Anton�, 51, 1o 2a
	 08011 Barcelona, Spain
	 Tel: +34 933 250 914
	 Fax: +34 932 890 729
	 frank.bergmann@...
	 http://tinytm.sourceforge.net/





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Excerpt from FOLT Newsletter:



Support by ]project:open[

The developers of the Open Source ERP/PM software ]project:open[ are
supporting the FOLT project and are planning an integration of open
translation functions in their product.

]project:open[ supports the technical and commercial processing of
translation projects. The market research company Common Sense Advisory
awarded ]project:open[ first place in �Business Management� in a test
comparing 16 translation management systems. With more than 500
installations in the translation sector, ]project:open[ states that it is
the leader in the number of installations. On the Open Source platform
www.sourceforge.net , ]po[ oscillates between places 50 and 200 in the most
popular Open Source applications.

Inspired by the activities of the TMOSS project, the TinyTM project was
created here. A first version for developers (V0.1) was be officially
released on Thursday 17 April.

Version V0.1 already features all key components of a Translation Memory:

- A TM client for MS-Word
- A TM server based on a PostgreSQL database
- A protocol for communication between client and server

Further components are already planned for the next versions.

The main purpose of Version 0.1 is to demonstrate the seriousness of the
project and activate support for its further development.

www.project-open.com
tinytm.sourceforge.net


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G'day everyone

I've written a quick guide to the Translate Toolkit, and I would like
your comments (flames welcome).

http://www.leuce.com/tempfile/Understanding%20the%20Translate%20Toolkit.odt

Thanks
Samuel

Hi Samuel,

you might want to try a software localization tool. Most of them can
handle PO files quiet well and also support TMX. Google for "Software
localization tool" and you will find them.

Markus Kreisel
www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize


--- In catmt@yahoogroups.com, "Samuel Murray (Home)" <leuce@...> wrote:
>
> G'day everyone
>
> Do you know of tools that remove untranslated strings from a PO
file, or
> that turns source=target strings in a PO file to source-only
strings?  I
> want to use OmegaT to translate PO files but unfortunately OmegaT puts
> the source text in the target field for strings that are not
translated,
> and that interferes with my other PO tools which regard any string with
> content to be a translated string.
>
> Alternatively, is there a tool that can translate a PO file with 100%
> matches from a TMX file?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Samuel
>

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and Translation Agencies
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G'day everyone

Do you know of tools that remove untranslated strings from a PO file, or
that turns source=target strings in a PO file to source-only strings?  I
want to use OmegaT to translate PO files but unfortunately OmegaT puts
the source text in the target field for strings that are not translated,
and that interferes with my other PO tools which regard any string with
content to be a translated string.

Alternatively, is there a tool that can translate a PO file with 100%
matches from a TMX file?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Samuel