Alas...the details are always in the fine print. There is also a paid service on teleflip. In the service agreement printed here ( http://www.teleflip.com/04/01/about/terms.htm - Registration and Privacy) they say:
"(iii) Any personal data about Users acquired by Teleflip as part of any registration process is subject to Teleflip’s Privacy Policy. Accordingly, Teleflip will not release a User’s name or personal contact information to third parties for marketing or solicitation purposes without the User’s prior approval. However, Teleflip may release general statistical and demographic information about use of the Service and the Site at any time without prior approval."
Now I'm all confused...poop...
Keith
krxtopher
<kschultz@...> wrote:
Just be sure you notify your users of the fine print. Their email addresses and cell phone numbers are likely to be sold to other companies. That seems to be Teleflip's business model.
… (iii) Teleflip reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to disclose, sell or otherwise release your personal information to any Affiliate, but the Affiliate will be bound to this Privacy Policy as existing at the time of such event. … (ii) Upon such approval, Teleflip may disclose, sell
for its own account or otherwise release your personal information: (a) to third parties with an interest in contacting you for purposes of promoting goods and services that may be of interest to you; and (b) for any other commercial or lawful purposes that serve our business needs and/or the needs or interests of Users.
Just be sure you notify your users of the fine print. Their email
addresses and cell phone numbers are likely to be sold to other
companies. That seems to be Teleflip's business model.
…
(iii) Teleflip reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to
disclose, sell or otherwise release your personal information to any
Affiliate, but the Affiliate will be bound to this Privacy Policy as
existing at the time of such event.
…
(ii) Upon such approval, Teleflip may disclose, sell for its own
account or otherwise release your personal information: (a) to third
parties with an interest in contacting you for purposes of promoting
goods and services that may be of interest to you; and (b) for any
other commercial or lawful purposes that serve our business needs
and/or the needs or interests of Users.
The Teleflip service is AWESOME! As a personal user you get 5,000
(that's right - 5,000) messages a month. I use it for all of my
texting. You could easily a mailing list in PHP and MySQL that can
send messages to folks via a mass email and also mass text message at
once. It's way cool!
Keith
--- In cdiglist@yahoogroups.com, "Angelo McComis" <angelo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim, and welcome to the list.
>
>
>
> Prior to recent times, you had to know the carrier. And they all
had email
> gateways but if you didn't know that someone had Verizon instead of
Sprint,
> your message would get lost.
>
>
>
> But there's a company: http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2527
that is
> offering a service for free to SMS anyone in the US via one
standardized
> gateway.
>
>
>
> Per that article in my link, you use [10-digit-cellular-number] @
> teleflip.com - I just tried it and it works just fine. It adds the
teleflip
> URL at the end of the message, but it's free, easy to implement,
and it
> meets your requirements.
>
>
>
> All you would need is a simple mailer service (ASP, PHP, or
whatever you
> like) on your server to push the message.
>
>
>
> Angelo
>
>
>
> From: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdiglist@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of jldami2
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:54 PM
> To: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [cdiglist] SMS/text messaging from SWF? And, hello.
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to feature a text message (SMS) form on my flash site
> (i.e. type in a phone number, carrier, and message and it sends to
a
> cell phone).
>
> I have seen sites that use PHP or Java I think to pull this off,
but
> never in flash or with actionscript. But maybe somebody out there
has.
>
> Can anyone direct me to a tutorial, component, or a solution of
some
> kind in general? Is there some kind of subscription one must buy to
> provide text messaging from their site? Or, is it as simple as
sending
> an email?
>
> Again, this form must be combinable with a flash movie, perhaps xml
> driven?
>
> I just graduated college (UofK) and just joined the list last week.
I
> look forward to learning a lot, sharing projects, and attending any
> meetings going forward.
>
> JIM
>
Prior to recent times, you had to know the carrier. And they all
had email gateways but if you didn’t know that someone had Verizon
instead of Sprint, your message would get lost.
Per that article in my link, you use [10-digit-cellular-number]
@ teleflip.com – I just tried it and it works just fine. It adds
the teleflip URL at the end of the message, but it’s free, easy to
implement, and it meets your requirements.
All you would need is a simple mailer service (ASP, PHP, or
whatever you like) on your server to push the message.
Angelo
From:
cdiglist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdiglist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jldami2 Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:54 PM To: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com Subject: [cdiglist] SMS/text messaging from SWF? And, hello.
Hello,
I would like to feature a text message (SMS) form on my flash site
(i.e. type in a phone number, carrier, and message and it sends to a
cell phone).
I have seen sites that use PHP or Java I think to pull this off, but
never in flash or with actionscript. But maybe somebody out there has.
Can anyone direct me to a tutorial, component, or a solution of some
kind in general? Is there some kind of subscription one must buy to
provide text messaging from their site? Or, is it as simple as sending
an email?
Again, this form must be combinable with a flash movie, perhaps xml
driven?
I just graduated college (UofK) and just joined the list last week. I
look forward to learning a lot, sharing projects, and attending any
meetings going forward.
Im having a problem with setting cues in squeeze 4.5 for FLV's. When
i try to trigger an event in flash the timeing is off about 3 seconds
too early...
Any ideas?
thanks Brian
I have been out of the Flash game for awhile, but I have found a need
for it again to develop some new components for our content management
system.
I have a subscription to Safari at O'Reilly, but could sift for days
through the available books. Does anyone have a recommendation for a
good book on Flash 8?
I am particularly interested in working with XML and retrieving data
from MySQL via PHP.
--
Randal Rust
R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com
Hello,
I would like to feature a text message (SMS) form on my flash site
(i.e. type in a phone number, carrier, and message and it sends to a
cell phone).
I have seen sites that use PHP or Java I think to pull this off, but
never in flash or with actionscript. But maybe somebody out there has.
Can anyone direct me to a tutorial, component, or a solution of some
kind in general? Is there some kind of subscription one must buy to
provide text messaging from their site? Or, is it as simple as sending
an email?
Again, this form must be combinable with a flash movie, perhaps xml
driven?
I just graduated college (UofK) and just joined the list last week. I
look forward to learning a lot, sharing projects, and attending any
meetings going forward.
JIM
Chip -
Forgot, you asked about the purchase without login. When I was
implementing there were lots of questions about this. I've lost
track of the community a bit since then so I can't say for sure if
they have changed how that works or anybody built a work around.
I'd suggest checking around on the support forums to see if you find
anything there or in the downloads.
HTH
Rory
Chip -
Thanks for the heads up about the error - seems to be related to
having added products with no images uploaded for them. Thought I
posted a No Image available for those items - doh!
It really wasn't too bad getting the templates setup. I was only
working on it during evenings and I think I had it up in about 4
weeks - and I was relatively new to PHP & MySQL at the time - this
was 2 years ago.
The other thing I like about ZenCart is the vast number of extensions
available for download. There are downloads for every payment
processor under the sun. And if there is one missing, there are
plenty of people in the community ready to help build one.
In response to your question about processing - if you do a search
for merchant accounts you'll find lots of payment processing
companies. The payment processor will be able to give you the
details on what interface they use for processing payments - then
comes the task of finding the module for Zencart.
You'll want to research the merchant companies closely, they all have
different pricing schemes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Rory
I have a Flash project that I'm trying to make fill the browser
window with 100% width and height.
I'm having a problem in Firefox when using the Macrodobe work around
for the IE object imbed tag issue, the Flash file only fills an area
about 300px tall and won't scale. If I use the plain object embed
tags it works fine, but errors in IE. (OH my kingdom for truly
standardized browsers!)
Has anyone run into this problem before? Are there any know
workarounds for this issue (apart from doing browser detection via
PHP or the like and serving up the right content)?
Thanks,
Chip
I've downloaded and played with both oscommerce and Zen cart, and looked into other options. It does seem like Zen Cart is winning the battle so far, but I agree about the Admin interface, it's chunkier than oscommerce (which Zen Cart is based on) I think it's trying to make things too simple in some ways, which is making it more difficult overall. Especially the admin for adding products and defining categories, I thought that was particularly chunky. The client is not very tech savvy, but wants to be able to manage as much as he can himself. I'll probably have to make a trimmed version of the admin in order for him to feel comfy with it.
Your store looks nice. How hard was it to modify the templates to achieve this look? Is it possible to setup Zen Cart to not require a login for purchase? The client is hesitant about his customer base being willing to do it.
as a side note, you're getting an error on your homepage:
"Warning: ereg_replace() [function.ereg-replace]: REG_EMPTY in /home/pantryde/public_html/includes/modules/pd_template/new_products.php on line 83"
Chip
On Jan 22, 2007, at 2:07 PM, rory_euphoria wrote:
I use ZenCart to run my wife and I's side business - http://www.pantrydelights.com. It didn't take long to get it up and running at all (IMHO).
They use a pretty sophisticated templating system which you can modify, or you can over-ride what they provide to customize it entirely.
The only thing I have had a problem with is the admin system - it is not well organized. I will admit that I am a couple of releases behind so this may have improved.
Chip -
I use ZenCart to run my wife and I's side business -
http://www.pantrydelights.com. It didn't take long to get it up and
running at all (IMHO).
They use a pretty sophisticated templating system which you can
modify, or you can over-ride what they provide to customize it
entirely.
The only thing I have had a problem with is the admin system - it is
not well organized. I will admit that I am a couple of releases
behind so this may have improved.
The community is huge and their are some very knowledgable and
helpful people active in the forums.
At the time I implemented zencart it was much more active and
growing faster than OSCommerce. I haven't looked at OSC sense then
so I can't say more on that though.
HTH.
Rory
--- In cdiglist@yahoogroups.com, Chip Brown <chipbrown@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Angelo McComis wrote:
>
> > There are more, but here are two choices (both are open source,
and
> > free, as in beer)
> >
> >
> >
> > One: ZenCart -- http://www.zen-cart.com/
> >
> > Two: osCommerce -- http://www.oscommerce.com/
>
>
> I was looking into these a little bit, has anyone used either of
> these before? Do they require server admin access or can you set
them
> up on a shared server?
>
> osCommerce looks to be very impressive.
>
> -Chip
>
On 1/19/07, doug@... <doug@...> wrote:
> But was does CDIG or CDIGLIST mean?
Beats me:) Kris will have to answer that one.
--
Randal Rust
R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com
> I got it! You should have it too if you set up your preferences to
> actually send you the messages.
I might add that there is an RSS feed which eliminates the need for email,
if you want.
>> What does CDIG mean? Did I miss an announcement?
But was does CDIG or CDIGLIST mean? The acronym doesn't match Central Ohio
Adobe User Group...What is the name of the group? "COAUG.NET" is available
:)
Doug
On 1/19/07, doug.bonneville <doug@...> wrote:
> Now, did anyone get this! I expect a surge of good feeling as I get
> confirmation that we have a list that is finally working...
I got it. You should have it too if you set up your preferences to
actually send you the messages. The Yahoo groups offer the best of
both worlds, in that you can just check in when you want, or you can
have the messages delivered to your inbox.
> What does CDIG mean? Did I miss an announcement?
I sent an email to COMMUG a couple of weeks ago and it never went
through, so I sent Kris (and others) an email suggesting we move to a
Yahoo group. There was no announcement, but we are trying to spread
the word.
--
Randal Rust
R.Squared Communications
www.r2communications.com
Joomla works great on shared server, btw.
> OS Commerce is a bear to customize - do a search.
>
> I had an excellent time with VirtueMart which is a component for
> Joomla. You get the whole CMS first, then Virtuemart which is very
> versatile.
>
> virtuemart.net
>
> Check out sculptstore.com for a Joomla / Virtuemart store I did. I
> wrote the template that controls Joomla and Virtuemart from scratch,
> and only had to do slight modifications to VM to get the design
> acceptable.
>
> Doug
>
>
> --- In cdiglist@yahoogroups.com, Chip Brown <chipbrown@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Angelo McComis wrote:
>>
>> > There are more, but here are two choices (both are open source, and
>> > free, as in beer)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > One: ZenCart -- http://www.zen-cart.com/
>> >
>> > Two: osCommerce -- http://www.oscommerce.com/
>>
>>
>> I was looking into these a little bit, has anyone used either of
>> these before? Do they require server admin access or can you set them
>> up on a shared server?
>>
>> osCommerce looks to be very impressive.
>>
>> -Chip
>>
>
>
>
OS Commerce is a bear to customize - do a search.
I had an excellent time with VirtueMart which is a component for
Joomla. You get the whole CMS first, then Virtuemart which is very
versatile.
virtuemart.net
Check out sculptstore.com for a Joomla / Virtuemart store I did. I
wrote the template that controls Joomla and Virtuemart from scratch,
and only had to do slight modifications to VM to get the design
acceptable.
Doug
--- In cdiglist@yahoogroups.com, Chip Brown <chipbrown@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Angelo McComis wrote:
>
> > There are more, but here are two choices (both are open source, and
> > free, as in beer)
> >
> >
> >
> > One: ZenCart -- http://www.zen-cart.com/
> >
> > Two: osCommerce -- http://www.oscommerce.com/
>
>
> I was looking into these a little bit, has anyone used either of
> these before? Do they require server admin access or can you set them
> up on a shared server?
>
> osCommerce looks to be very impressive.
>
> -Chip
>
test test test
I am happy to test
TEST TEST TEST
Now, did anyone get this! I expect a surge of good feeling as I get
confirmation that we have a list that is finally working...
What does CDIG mean? Did I miss an announcement?
Doug
I was looking into these a little bit, has anyone used either of these before? Do they require server admin access or can you set them up on a shared server?
Thanks for the input so far, it's nice to have at least part of COMMUG back!
And to answer some of your questions:
I actually have 3, maybe 4, e-commerce sites to put together, 3 for clients and one for myself (perpetual back burner, so who knows when I'll get to that!)
For myself I might consider doing a more add-hoc system, but the others are all existing businesses with at least several hundred products to sell, they all have merchant accounts setup to do credit card processing in person or over the phone. Only one currently has an e-commerce setup that they're looking to revamp (they where talked into an all-in-one package, with 4 separate domains/stores/carts and are paying a but-load each month for the privilege.) The others have basic websites in various states of chaos, with the 'Call this number to order' purchase system and are looking for something a little more robust.
My goal is to find/modify/create a shopping cart & product catalog system that I can use for all 3(or 4) sites with minimal rework.
I could be dreaming here, but Is there a service that can handle just the payment / credit processing? Ex: Shopping cart/catalog system on my site records an order# with product details etc., then when you go to checkout you send a unique ID and dollar total to the service, which then steps in to take the customers credit card info and let you know if everything is approved and deposit the funds. From what I understand, this is sort of how paypal works, except that the end user must have an account.
Chip
Forgot a couple things...
If you're doing your own cart, you DO need your own merchant INTERNET
account. Let's say you open up an "eStore" for a company that already is
setup with a merchant account at their existing POS. They are in good shape,
since they will need to add INTERNET capability to it, and it's $25/month
extra. If they're not already setup as a merchant, then you (and/or they)
will need to engage with a bank/merchant provider. Once you have a
merchant account that is internet-enabled, you need to sign up with a
payment gateway (of which Authorize.net is a popular choice).
It works like this: You take your customer's "check out info" and from the
server, essentially you do HTTP POST to Authorize.net (your merchant id,
cc#, customer security verification, etc.). You get back the HTTP results
from the POST which includes a status (approved, declined, etc.).
Authorize.net brokers the transaction with the appropriate financial
institution (visa, mc, amex, discover, carte blanche, diners club, etc). The
financial institution deposits the funds into your account.
SSL is a MUST. Although I personally think it's difficult (in reality) to
steal someone's HTTP session traffic without a concentrated effort (either
breaching the client's PC or breaching the hosting provider), people still
won't put their card info in on your site unless it's on an HTTPS URL. When
you sign up for your SSL Cert, the entity you purchase it from SHOULD call
you and verify all of your information, up to, and maybe even including
asking you for a copy of your vendor's license.
Some other things to consider: Make sure your site looks legit. Post the
business / customer service phone number, and a physical address in the
footer. Anything you can do to bolster consumer confidence in your site, the
more likely you are to convert a browsing surfer into a buyer.
Angelo
From: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdiglist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chip Brown
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:00 PM
To: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [cdiglist] Shopping cart, e-commerce and more
Foo, sorry I forgot to change the subject line!
Howdy,
I'm about to delve into setting up an e-commerce site completely on
my own for the first time. I've done parts of the process before, but
never the entire thing. What I'm most unsure about right now is
credit card processing, and all that it entails. (Merchant account,
and secure checkout)
It'll be built in PHP/MySQL. I'm leaning towards building it from
scratch to give the highest level of customization, but might base it
on an existing cart if I can find one I like. Are there any PHP/MySQL
carts out there that you'd recommend?
Is there anyway around getting a SSL Certificate or is that the only
way to accept credit cards on line, shy of paypal? Anyone had issues
with paypal?
thanks for the input
chip
There are plenty of pre-built ones out there. And they’re
all skinnable, so you’d be easily able to grab a skin (most are free in
community forums centered on the given cart package) and customize it.
There are more, but here are two choices (both are open source,
and free, as in beer)
From:
cdiglist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdiglist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip
Brown Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:55 PM To: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cdiglist] Re: Is Yahoo! Groups a good choice for this
list?
Howdy,
I'm about to delve into setting up an e-commerce site completely on
my own for the first time. I've done parts of the process before, but
never the entire thing. What I'm most unsure about right now is
credit card processing, and all that it entails. (Merchant account,
and secure checkout)
It'll be built in PHP/MySQL. I'm leaning towards building it from
scratch to give the highest level of customization, but might base it
on an existing cart if I can find one I like. Are there any PHP/MySQL
carts out there that you'd recommend?
Is there anyway around getting a SSL Certificate or is that the only
way to accept credit cards on line, shy of paypal? Anyone had issues
with paypal?
I'm not sure of the details of your needs (is this a long or short product list; someone else's stuff or your own you're selling) but I would definitely recommend looking into http://stores.yahoo.com. It's at least worth considering as you can customize the shell to appear as if it's your site but don't have all the hassle of setting up merchant accounts, etc. and they have a customer feedback mechanism that can be very informative. Depending on the intensity of the revenue, the monthly cost for the 'premium' may be worth the upgraded fraud protection. Check out the major attractions and others they list as business who use their solution. An example off the top of my head would be Shedd Aquarium in Chicago (www.SheddAquarium.org). Doing your own cart and bird-dogging its functionality AND paying all the bank and transaction fees to get set-up and verified with a security certificate could really be offset by a turnkey solution. :)
Shirer
From: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cdiglist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chip Brown Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:55 PM To: cdiglist@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [cdiglist] Re: Is Yahoo! Groups a good choice for this list?
Howdy,
I'm about to delve into setting up an e-commerce site completely on my own for the first time. I've done parts of the process before, but never the entire thing. What I'm most unsure about right now is credit card processing, and all that it entails. (Merchant account, and secure checkout)
It'll be built in PHP/MySQL. I'm leaning towards building it from scratch to give the highest level of customization, but might base it on an existing cart if I can find one I like. Are there any PHP/MySQL carts out there that you'd recommend?
Is there anyway around getting a SSL Certificate or is that the only way to accept credit cards on line, shy of paypal? Anyone had issues with paypal?
Foo, sorry I forgot to change the subject line!
Howdy,
I'm about to delve into setting up an e-commerce site completely on
my own for the first time. I've done parts of the process before, but
never the entire thing. What I'm most unsure about right now is
credit card processing, and all that it entails. (Merchant account,
and secure checkout)
It'll be built in PHP/MySQL. I'm leaning towards building it from
scratch to give the highest level of customization, but might base it
on an existing cart if I can find one I like. Are there any PHP/MySQL
carts out there that you'd recommend?
Is there anyway around getting a SSL Certificate or is that the only
way to accept credit cards on line, shy of paypal? Anyone had issues
with paypal?
thanks for the input
chip
Howdy,
I'm about to delve into setting up an e-commerce site completely on
my own for the first time. I've done parts of the process before, but
never the entire thing. What I'm most unsure about right now is
credit card processing, and all that it entails. (Merchant account,
and secure checkout)
It'll be built in PHP/MySQL. I'm leaning towards building it from
scratch to give the highest level of customization, but might base it
on an existing cart if I can find one I like. Are there any PHP/MySQL
carts out there that you'd recommend?
Is there anyway around getting a SSL Certificate or is that the only
way to accept credit cards on line, shy of paypal? Anyone had issues
with paypal?
thanks for the input
chip
Oops. I think I may have unwittingly deleted the original 2 posts in
this thread. Note to self: admin actions on Yahoo! Groups are not
adequately identified. Yeesh!
- Kris