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Re: Clay's Health


Hopefully good books can lead people to good therapists, and vice
versa.

Ken


--- In cfntherapy@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Miller" <drmiller@c...> wrote:
> Clay,
> I don't know much about radiation tx, so am just hoping it's effective
and painless. Thanks for keeping us posted.
>
> Re self-help, I don't really see the difference between going to a
therapist whom you use as a coach or guide, vs. using a book as a
coach or guide. A therapist might lead clients through exercises, but
books do that too. The therapist is more tailored to the clidnt than a
book, but othewise what's the diff? My info brochure for new patients
states that most of therapy is self-help, but really it's all self-help.
The client gets whatever s/he can out of the book or therapist, and
uses it however s/he can. I honestly do not see the difference, but
maybe I'm not understanding your question.
>
> bob
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Clay Tucker-Ladd
> To: cfntherapy@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 1:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [cfntherapy] Clay's Health
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> Thanks Bob for asking about my health. Well, I still don't know the
proper treatment...although you can bet it has captured my attention.
Without going into details, the biopsy found a small cluster of cancer
cells which repeated PSA tests had been there for 6 years which a
biopsy didn't detect 3 years ago. So, there is a problem and the
Urologist (a surgeon) said surgery was not a good idea but he suggested
that I want to consider radiation therapy. OK, there are likely to be
unpleasant side effects from radiation but the cancer cells are zapped.
So, I talk to my general practitioner and he suggests I should just let it
go and observe the cells carefully. Monday, my wife and I will be talking
to the radiation oncologist on Monday.
>
> This decision takes priority in my hierarchy of needs. If I go with the
radiation treatment, it will take about 2 hours a day for 8 weeks or so.
So I should have time to work. I'll just watch the cfntherapy progress
and see if I can add some comments but I'd rather not make a firm
commitment to extensive involvement in writing an article.
>
> In any case, my interest in explaining the self-change process in a
way that is totally compatible with the laws of behavior (vs. mystical,
magical "free will") has been peaked again. So, I'll observe your
behavior and the cancer cells. (:-)
>
> Clay
> Clay Tucker-Ladd, Ph.D.
> Clinical Psychologist & Author of
>
> Psychological Self-Help
>
> http://mentalhelp.net/psyhelp/
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Bob Miller [mailto:drmiller@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:44 AM
> To: cfntherapy
> Subject: [cfntherapy] Clay's Health
>
>
> Clay,
> We haven't heard from you recently' I'm hoping it's because you're
actively pursuing info and treatment re your prostate cancer. We're
all excited about your participation here--and especially about
converting you to Naturalism :-)
>
> It occurred to me that my last posting to the group, which referred
to "the serenity of inevitability" in reference to your cancer, may have
seemed dismissive or uncaring or, perhaps worse, fatalistic. If so, I
deeply apologize. It was something I quickly tacked onto the beginning
before sending the email that was already composed, and it came off
as brusque.
>
> So how are you, and what have you learned about your medical
condition?
>
> Bob
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Clay, We haven't heard from you recently' I'm hoping it's because you're actively pursuing info and treatment re your prostate cancer. We're all excited...
Bob Miller
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Dec 9, 2004
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Thanks Bob for asking about my health. Well, I still don't know the proper treatment...although you can bet it has captured my attention. Without going into...
Clay Tucker-Ladd
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Dec 10, 2004
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Clay, I don't know much about radiation tx, so am just hoping it's effective and painless. Thanks for keeping us posted. Re self-help, I don't really see the...
Bob Miller
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Dec 12, 2004
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Hopefully good books can lead people to good therapists, and vice versa. Ken ... and painless. Thanks for keeping us posted. ... therapist whom you use as a...
Ken Batts
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Dec 12, 2004
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Ken, Bob, and Tom: Thanks for your concern about my health. I saw a radiation oncologist this afternoon but I suspect it will be a couple of weeks--or maybe a...
Clay Tucker-Ladd
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Dec 13, 2004
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Clay: "Self-change" occurs without free will. All "change", whether we're talking about evolution, volcanoes, disease, education, or "personal growth", is...
Ken Batts
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Dec 16, 2004
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... disease, ... By "in some cases" I meant all cases where brains are involved (which excludes much of evolution and all volcanoes!) Ken...
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