Hi Clay, I'm more or less a silent member of the CFN therapy group. I'm not a therapist; I am however an active member of the humanist community here in...
Great post, Arnell. Your discussion of responsibility, and why healthy people don't need to see themselves as causally "free" in order to behave well, is very...
Great post, Arnell. Your discussion of responsibility, and why healthy people don't need to see themselves as causally "free" in order to behave well, is very...
Maybe a useful way of describing what we want to achieve in therapy is "empathy addiction". Tom's "Connection Control Compassion" is an excellent way of...
Hi Ken, Thanks for the feedback. I liked what you said about the importance of offering something to replace what we are "taking away." It is essential that...
Arnell: I understood those three points and I agree with you on each of them. I hope you'll reconsider your assessment of empathy. To me it's not only...
Tom, Ken, and Arnell: Thanks for responding to my initial post. Special thanks to Arnell for his clear and lengthy expression of explicit differences of...
Clay: As a determinist I observe that people change, sometimes for the better (healthier) and that their effort to change plays a role in that change. And,...
So glad to see increased activity here! Thanks to Clay and Arnell and Ken for keeping things rolling. Some miscellaneous thoughts below. Arnell-thanks for...
As a shrink, I gotta agree with Ken. Empathy is not only crucial to effective therapy, it is IMOH the key to the wonderful feeling of connection with others. ...
Ken: Just a quick answer to your question of: "Do you believe self-help is enough in all or most cases?" No, no, not at all. I have been a therapist for about...
Clay: My take on these issues is somewhat scattered over www.naturalism.org, but for reassurances about our efficacy as agents and rebuttals to fatalism, see...
Ken wrote: "As a determinist I observe that people change, sometimes for the better (healthier) and that their effort to change plays a role in that change....
Clay: Thanks for the clarification. I don't think you'll get any disagreement from this group that people are dynamic, in a constant state of change,...
Tom: Your comment about our significant overlap, moving past our differences, and Clay's comment about the complexity of our determinants inspired a thought: ...
In my previous post, after the second section of the introduction I should have started a new paragraph describing the body of the paper ("Rather than rigidly...
Ken, I like your idea (if I understand it accurately) of proposing Naturalism as therapeutic, rather as a a type of therapy that can be applied to various ...
Bob: The Positive Psychology approach could be your contribution to the paper. My perspective would be different, but overlapping because the ways we see...
cfn list: I have started wrestling with some of Tom's Naturalism. And I'm having problems with describing the ways, I feel, that we human beings take in ...
Clay: Sorry to hear about your health news, I hope everything goes well for you. I don't believe Tom or anyone else here dismisses the role our unique thought...
Clay, May your prostrate cancer be one of those easily cured. Here's where the serenity of inevitability, along with good judgement and increasing medical...
Clay, We haven't heard from you recently' I'm hoping it's because you're actively pursuing info and treatment re your prostate cancer. We're all excited...
Ken, What you've suggested below about limiting the scope and claims of the paper looks good. I guess I see my role as helping with the background/intro...
Thanks Bob for asking about my health. Well, I still don't know the proper treatment...although you can bet it has captured my attention. Without going into...
Clay, I don't know much about radiation tx, so am just hoping it's effective and painless. Thanks for keeping us posted. Re self-help, I don't really see the...
Hopefully good books can lead people to good therapists, and vice versa. Ken ... and painless. Thanks for keeping us posted. ... therapist whom you use as a...
Ken, Bob, and Tom: Thanks for your concern about my health. I saw a radiation oncologist this afternoon but I suspect it will be a couple of weeks--or maybe a...
Clay: "Self-change" occurs without free will. All "change", whether we're talking about evolution, volcanoes, disease, education, or "personal growth", is...
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