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  • Category: Energy
  • Founded: Jan 5, 2012
  • Language: English
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1 gammaburst Offline Send Email Jan 5, 2012
9:08 pm
please see photo "weightchain.jpg". The left side will push the bottom cog, but the links will build up on the right side and expand on the left side until the...
3 Darren
darknorr Offline Send Email
Jan 5, 2012
10:15 pm
Okay this a link from the PESN page on this: http://www.besslerwheel.com/murilo/index.html...
4 valdiedre Offline Send Email Jan 6, 2012
4:49 am
If the inventor or other's for that matter, have in fact got this working as stated, a video would certainly have put concerns to rest. There isn't even a jpg...
5 Sterling Allan
sterlingda888 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2012
5:04 am
Hi Murilo, I'd be curious to hear from you about this story we posted today and linked later to your work that we were informed about after publishing our...
6 Sterling Allan
sterlingda888 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2012
5:13 am
there's a photo of a build at http://www.besslerwheel.com/murilo/index.html ... From: valdiedre To: chain-grav@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012...
7 bigjimbishop Offline Send Email Jan 6, 2012
5:53 am
Even if the chain did not get all bunched up round the bottom cog surely the friction in the linkages and chain contact with wall and wheels would make the...
9 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 6, 2012
9:58 am
Hey, I am sorry to tell you this design does not work. Let me proove it to you by using basic physics: Let's say the height of the motor is 49 meters and one 1...
10 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 6, 2012
11:00 am
And while I'm at it, the design of the device is silly and unnecessarily complex - quite possibly to intentionally confuse you. You can test this yourself by...
11 Sterling Allan
sterlingda888 Offline Send Email
Jan 6, 2012
1:54 pm
My associate Skype-called me this morning to tell me that the inventor saw our story on our site along with your comment and image below, and he replied: "You...
12 camilo_urbina Offline Send Email Jan 6, 2012
6:50 pm
Dear Kanshimura: I agree this won't work, but your math demostration still is not proof of that. Math cannot sustitute experimentation when a complex...
13 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 7, 2012
9:40 am
Dear Camilo, I would say you can proove it fully by physics since the engine is based on gravity, that is completely explained and understood. You can even use...
14 ---------
dennis_m1975 Offline Send Email
Jan 7, 2012
6:18 pm
I think it's prudent to wait for videos before anyone makes any attempt to replicate it. It would be even more better if someone can see the working thing in...
15 Sterling Allan
sterlingda888 Offline Send Email
Jan 7, 2012
8:54 pm
... From: Sterling Allan Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:51 AM Subject: photo or video of chain device? Hi ***, People are having a hard time believing the...
16 land_lubber Offline Send Email Jan 7, 2012
9:30 pm
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/newacqui.htm#chain...
17 Sterling Allan
sterlingda888 Offline Send Email
Jan 8, 2012
12:03 am
On the descending side, even though the images portray the gears collapsed and touching each other, this would not be desirable of they are running along a...
18 land_lubber Offline Send Email Jan 8, 2012
5:04 am
The important part is on this page: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/frcm.htm Read the whole page from beginning to end. Every word. Don't skim. All...
19 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 8, 2012
9:31 am
If you read the whole article, you will see Donald Simanek states that Murilo sent him that design in 2008. And since then, Murilo was unable to make it work...
20 Jim
menos50 Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
5:55 am
The discription stating the 2:1 lever balance isn't correct, due to the additional force introduced from the prior link to the red roller whos roller is still...
21 Jim
menos50 Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
5:59 am
That's why there have to be outer guides to keep the ascending links expanded and pushing... see the pictures with the pushing links that are in the chain....
22 Jim
menos50 Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
6:20 am
You forgot that a bar also goes from right to left at the same time adding to the gravitational forces on the heavier driving side....
23 Jim
menos50 Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
6:24 am
You failed to notice that the design pushes the ascending side , it does not pull it....
24 Jim
menos50 Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
6:26 am
I thought that would make sense, but didn't see it in the design pics....
25 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 10, 2012
9:24 am
You should look at the provided picture. Obviously I haven't forgotten about that. Also, if you have one bar leaving the left side and at the same time one bar...
26 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 10, 2012
9:28 am
That is irrelevant. Both actions require the same amount of work. Also pulling would be the easiest way to make it work - it won't, but it is a better design....
27 Darin Selby
darinselby Offline Send Email
Jan 10, 2012
5:37 pm
Believe me that this guy has never built one that works, nor will ever build a funtioning model based upon this premise. Don't let the optical illusion...
28 John
burns_curtis Offline Send Email
Jan 19, 2012
9:23 am
Looking at the graphic, would it work better if the whole unit is slanted to the left?...
29 John
burns_curtis Offline Send Email
Jan 19, 2012
12:38 pm
... Murilo Luciano's idea is having a cogged wheel at the bottom and smooth wheel at the top with swinging latch bars on each links. This is all unnecessary,...
30 John
burns_curtis Offline Send Email
Jan 19, 2012
1:13 pm
Peswiki <http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:_Chain_Gravity_Machine> The peswiki site says: "We'll also ask that a small royalty (e.g. 5%) be paid for all ...
31 John
burns_curtis Offline Send Email
Jan 19, 2012
3:19 pm
... Understood? No one knows 100% how gravity occurs....
32 kanshimura Offline Send Email Jan 24, 2012
3:39 pm
Actually it would "work" worse since the direction of gravity wouldn't match the direction of movement + increased friction......
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