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So what is the Chameleon really then ?   Message List  
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Re: [chameleon_64] Re: So what is the Chameleon really then ?


Hi,

first of all, happy new year everyone on this
list. I'm the one who makes the hardware of
Chameleon, just in case my name is not familiar.

At 21:33 07.01.2009 +0000, Mark wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>Well I'd buy it just for a FPGA on a cart .. so there you have one
>customer! :-)

Good - then you might also like to hear that the
cartridge will also work stand-alone (that's why
it'll have the PS2 keyboard connector).

>So if the 6502 and VIC cores are accessing their own private RAM on
>the cart, can they get access to the memory space of the real C64 ?
>Or do they have to page it in via something like a REC ?

The internal C64 memory is completely switched
off. You can remove it, if you like. The C64's
VIC reads its data from the Chameleon ram, which
is the major difference to any accelerator out
there. While all other accelerators have to slow
down to poke into the C64 memory, Chameleon does
not have this "penalty". The one thing where
Chameleon has to slow down is a write to colour
ram, this cannot be replaced externally.

>What about peripherals ? (joysticks, user port devices, devices on
>the serial bus etc) Would you have to page the carts RAM down into
>the the C64 RAM, then have the real 6510 pick up where the 6502 core
>left off and access the device, copy the data into the C64 RAM and
>then have the 6502 core take over again and page the data from real
>RAM back into the cart and process it .... my head hurts now :-)

No need to - normal bus access is still possible,
so the 6502 inside Chameleon can read/write CIA
and all other registers as if they're local.
Other accelerators also don't have problems
accessing SID, VIC and CIAs, so why would Chameleon have a problem?

And yes, it's truly a fun project. Lots of things
to learn about a machine that is considered to be "well known" ;-)

ciao,
--
Jens Schönfeld




Wed Jan 7, 2009 9:43 pm

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Hi there, So does anyone here have some good info on the Chameleon ? The titbits on the internet makes it sound good :-) I'm interested in knowing how it gets...
strandedinnz
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Jan 5, 2009
10:31 pm

Hi, Let me start by wishin the group a Happy new year! Yeah sorry about the lack of info updates. I had other hi-prio projects and activites the last 2 months,...
Peter
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Jan 6, 2009
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I think you can be excused for having a real life :-) After all the old C64s and 128s are just a fun hobby for us all now. So how are you turning off the real...
strandedinnz
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Jan 7, 2009
7:51 am

Hi, ... the old C64s and 128s are ... Since when is programming FPGAs not 'real life'? :-) ... over ? The VIC-II can not be turned off. Turning off the CPU...
Peter
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Jan 7, 2009
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Hi there, Well I'd buy it just for a FPGA on a cart .. so there you have one customer! :-) So if the 6502 and VIC cores are accessing their own private RAM on ...
strandedinnz
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Jan 7, 2009
9:33 pm

Hi, first of all, happy new year everyone on this list. I'm the one who makes the hardware of Chameleon, just in case my name is not familiar. ... Good - then...
Jens Schoenfeld
paradroid23
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Jan 7, 2009
9:45 pm

Hi there, Nah can't say I've ever heard of you ..... ;-) Ooooh so it can be used as a FPGA project board as well ? .. That'll be nice, my little EP1C board is...
strandedinnz
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Jan 7, 2009
10:25 pm

Hi, ... Yes it can load cores directly from a MMC cart. The two things we have in mind for this are a standalone 1541 drive emulator (for use with other 8 bit...
Peter
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