Andrius,

This is excellent material - I've been lurking here for some time and
reading with fascination. In the coming weeks I'll be sharing a new
concept with the group called iWork based on Dee Hock's (Visa) chaordic
model - watch this space.

Leon.

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From: ms@... [mailto:ms@...]
Sent: 13 March 2003 06:01
To: chaordicIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chaordicIP] Ideas for Organizing an economy for working openly


Here are ideas to encourage Organizing an economy for working openly.


- - - What are we learning? - - -
http://www.worldofends.com
- - - "World of Ends: What the Internet Is and How to Stop Mistaking It
for Something Else." by Doc Searls and David Weinberger: When it comes
to the Net, a lot of us suffer from Repetitive Mistake Syndrome. This is
especially true for magazine and newspaper publishing, broadcasting,
cable television, the record industry, the movie industry, and the
telephone industry, to name just six. [...] The Internet's three
virtues: a. No one owns it b. Everyone can use it c. Anyone can
improve it
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What are we learning? - - -
http://doc.weblogs.com/2003/03/06#customerism
- - - Doc Searls: Dan and Jerry are wondering exactly what word we
should use to replace "consumer." [...] Mine: Customer. Because that's
what we were before producers required rhetorical reciprocals at the far
ends of their distro deltas. Consumers, as Jerry so perfectly put it
once, are living gullets who live only to gulp down products and crap
out cash. Customers are real human beings with whom companies actually
relate. [...] The problem is with business categories such as comercial
broadcasting, whose consumers and customers are different populations.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What are we learning? - - -
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=5352
- - - How large do we want our lab to be? What would be optimal? [...]
Optimally, I shouldn't work alone. But here are some constraints [...] I
would like to work with equals. [...] I think this suggests a "fractal"
approach. It should be recursive, in that each of the helpers would also
benefit from five helpers.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What are we learning? - - -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/2965
- - - umesh rashmi rohatgi: money trail will show you that one who
knows how to milk the system will benefit and those who do not know will
be thirsty and will not have milk to drink. unfortunately money is only
thing which defies gravity it flows always from low potential to high
potential. you know why because these low potential people send every
day money order to those who are rich by choosing to follow their
methods to become rich quickly, rather than finding and inventing new
method by which they themselves come up or their fellow.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What are we learning? - - -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/2970
- - - Guillermo Cerceau: I believe that social networks, infrastructure
(part "soft", like culture and HHRR, part "hard", like communication
lines, for example) and other "political" issues, should be adressed if
an effective way to use KM related technologies is to be succesful. By
"political" I mean the fact that precisely infrastructure issues are
severely controlled by great corporations or by governments in small
nations and states, and social networks are weak or even nonexistent.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What might interest us? - - -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chaordicIP/message/22
- - - Tom Poe: http://www.grameen.org is a good example to me, of what
small countries are capable of, in many areas. The model is a good one
for building an infrastructure, regardless of the government's
capabilities or interests. The infrastructure, in combination with
participation in local, regional, and global knowledge partnerships is
an interesting idea. What do you think?
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What might interest us? - - -
http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/_d10/_v10/__show_day/_w2003-03-07#000010-00
0635
- - - Flemming Funch: Timothy Wilken mentions "GIFTING IT: A Burning
Embrace of Gift Economy ", a documentary by Renea Roberts about the gift
economy at work in the annual Burning Man festival. [...] I've been well
aware how it in many ways presents a model for a new and better way of
organizing society. You know, creative people think of what they feel
ought to be added to the soup. What is needed, or what would be cool.
They collaborate on making it happen. It is usually a gift to the whole.
[...] An elaborate infrastructure emerges in the middle of a barren
desert. [...] Many documentaries have been made about Burning Man, but
this is apparently the first that focuses on the gift economy. On how
the openness and the connection with others is what makes it work.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What should we be learning? - - -
http://doc.weblogs.com/2003/03/04#gotBlog
- - - Doc Searls: Christopher Filkins has blogged an expos
http://chronotope.com/chronotope/2003/03/02.php#a455 of what he politely
calls "a fascinating attempt to use a blog to sell a product." Deep
reportage. Filled with facts, links and an interview with a perpetrator.
Well done.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What should we be learning? - - -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/2967
- - - Prem Chandavarkar: read Bernard Lietaer's book "The Future of
Money". He writes on how local communities can develop their own
economies by designing their own currencies. These do not replace
official currencies but complement them. [...] I attach below a summary
of Lietaer's argument that can be found (along with more info on this
philosophy) at http://www.transaction.net
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - What should we be learning? - - - www.cerceau.com/guillermo
- - - There is a widely spread concern about the best way to communcate
complex ideas, very often expressed as a polarity between "technical"
and "non technical" ways of presenting information. This polarity
originates in looking at the person who is reading / listening /
learning in terms of his/her level of expertise in the matter in
question. But people do not react at discourses solely in terms of their
previous knowledge, not even solely in terms of their world view.
Effective communication (particularly of complex subjects) has more to
do with the needs of the people and the understanding they have of those
needs. Knowledge barriers can be bridged by knowledge inself, and
incompatible "world views" can be approached by dialectics, but needs
can only be adressed in terms of real solutions, and that takes
discourse well beyond the "textual" universe, into a humane praxis. What
we should be learning is how to adress needs and their (necessarily
distorted) "representatio! n" in a way that knowlede sharing and
communication are fostered. Hegel once wrote that learning logic could
not help anyone to think better, like learning anatomy could not help
anyone to make a better digestion. Knowledge without what Buddhism calls
compassion (that I have described here as "humane praxis of adressing
needs") can end up being tautological, and tehrefore, useless.
- - - Submitted by: Guillermo Cerceau guillermo[AT]cerceau.com

- - - How are we interacting? - - -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/2965
- - - umesh rashmi rohatgi: andrius [...] please keep this fire burning
to help others as long as you can. good luck for canadian grant we wish
you get this grant and you deserve it. with regards,and good luck.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt

- - - How are we interacting? - - -
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=5352
- - - Flemming Funch: Andrius Kulikauskas is a champion for working
openly. Read his new bigger and bolder proposal for the operation of
the Minciu Sodas laboratory. The idea is to publically propose projects,
to make clear which people are available, what they're available for,
and how much money is needed. Because it is all public, and because
people can follow the progress, anybody can provide information and
leads that might make projects come together. He outlines a scheme with
a range of bigger and smaller projects supporting each other. Oh, and
I'm delighted to see a slot waiting for me there. Yes, of course I'd
enjoy making knowledge management systems with such distinguished folks.
- - - Submitted by: Andrius ms[AT]ms.lt



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