Before 10:30 am tomorrow or after 3:00pm, before 5:00pm (have some plans during
the day)
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Will May
   To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:13 PM
   Subject: Re: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10



   When is the best time to call?

   William D. May III
   GLOBE Residential Design Studio
   208 Brookwood Road
   Venetia, PA 15367 (Pittsburgh Area )
   Office: 412-215-6129
   www.globerds.net
   globerds@...

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   From: Mount Hope Builders <mounthopebuilders@...>
   Subject: Re: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10
   To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 5:49 PM



   Yes please call me (845)222 6543 Patrick
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: James E. Buttars
   To: Chief-Users
   Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:32 PM
   Subject: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10

   Hi All.

   I have a contact who has had some experience with with (YKW) but would like
   to expend his presentation skill by using CA, I suggested he start with V10
   to see what he thinks. Does anyone out there have a copy of v10 they no
   longer have use for please.

   E. James Buttars

   Queensland Australia

   #YKW - U No Who, Autodesk

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Patrick,
 
Is there any particular reason you are selling this software?  I assume it is
an original full package program, not a copied version.  Does it use a dongle
key or is it a cd version?  How long have you had it?  Do you have all the
books and other documents that it came with?
 
What price are you asking?




William D. May III 
GLOBE Residential Design Studio
208 Brookwood Road
Venetia, PA 15367 (Pittsburgh Area )
Office: 412-215-6129
www.globerds.net
globerds@...

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Mount Hope Builders <mounthopebuilders@...> wrote:


From: Mount Hope Builders <mounthopebuilders@...>
Subject: Re: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:14 PM


 



Before 10:30 am tomorrow or after 3:00pm, before 5:00pm (have some plans during
the day)
----- Original Message -----
From: Will May
To: chief-users@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10

When is the best time to call?

William D. May III
GLOBE Residential Design Studio
208 Brookwood Road
Venetia, PA 15367 (Pittsburgh Area )
Office: 412-215-6129
www.globerds. net
globerds@comcast. net

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From: Mount Hope Builders <mounthopebuilders@ hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10
To: chief-users@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 5:49 PM

Yes please call me (845)222 6543 Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: James E. Buttars
To: Chief-Users
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: [chief-users] WANTED - Legal Edition of Chief V10

Hi All.

I have a contact who has had some experience with with (YKW) but would like
to expend his presentation skill by using CA, I suggested he start with V10
to see what he thinks. Does anyone out there have a copy of v10 they no
longer have use for please.

E. James Buttars

Queensland Australia

#YKW - U No Who, Autodesk

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I don't mean to be a stick in the mud but in order to have a "legal" copy of
Version 10 one would have to be no longer intending to use such a license (if
you have X1 and or X2 it is illegal to sell V10 and keep your X1 or X2; I have
versions 4-X2 and they are covered under a single license that I have for all)

See:

http://search.chiefarchitect.com/search?q=EULA&btnG=Search&site=chief_architect&\
client=chief_architect&restrict=ChiefArchitect&proxystylesheet=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.\
chiefarchitect.com%2Fsearch%2Fchiefsearch_stylesheet.xslt&output=xml_no_dtd

for more data at the Chief Architect website or read your existing EULA that
comes with any version of Chief.

DJP

Hi All



I have a problem wall that doesn't show in 3D.

It is an upstairs room which is partially over a verandah below.

In 3D the windows show but not the wall. The room is selectable so the walls
close ok.

I have tried creating a room below with in visible walls but it still
doesn't show.



Can anybody suggest a fix or work around?

Many thanks in advance for any help



Regards

Steve



Avon Valley Drafting

56 Woodley Farm Drive

Northam  WA 6401

Phone/Fax (08) 9622 2816

Mobile          0419 909 485

email avds@...





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Hi All



I have discovered the problem - just a DOE error!

DOE = Dumb Operator Error.

I had the verandah roof running  beneath the upstairs room.

Deleted the section of roof and all good

Must be passed my bed time or a holiday overdue.



Regards

Steve



From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Callaway
Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 7:45 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] Wall doesn't show in 3D





Hi All

I have a problem wall that doesn't show in 3D.

It is an upstairs room which is partially over a verandah below.

In 3D the windows show but not the wall. The room is selectable so the walls
close ok.

I have tried creating a room below with in visible walls but it still
doesn't show.

Can anybody suggest a fix or work around?

Many thanks in advance for any help

Regards

Steve

Avon Valley Drafting

56 Woodley Farm Drive

Northam WA 6401

Phone/Fax (08) 9622 2816

Mobile 0419 909 485

email avds@... <mailto:avds%40wetsnet.com.au>

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OK,,, who put this in my Outlook calender? :-)

Thanks Ray,

Well bugger me! That's a long way from home, but thanks for the thought
Guy's. Yup, Route 66 it is!

Erik



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Erik

R U counting backwards now  Lol

Happy Birthday Old Timer

Dennis




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: E. James Buttars
   To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 11:38 AM
   Subject: RE: [chief-users] Mr. Erik James Buttars's Birthday





   Thanks Ray,

   Well bugger me! That's a long way from home, but thanks for the thought
   Guy's. Yup, Route 66 it is!

   Erik

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Wishing you the very best of this your Special Day,  Mr.  Erik.   Happy
Birthday.

LaMar

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Thank you LarMar, in Florida,
Erik
E. James Buttars

Hi Erik Happy birthday! You didn't drop in when you were down south had the
billy on the boil and a couple of extra Morton bay bugs ready for the barby.



All the best again cobber! My Skype let me down this year.



John Richardson





-----Original Message-----
From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of E. James Buttars
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 4:06 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] Mr. Erik James Buttars's Birthday





Thank you LarMar, in Florida,
Erik
E. James Buttars







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Hi John,
Thanks mate, ran out of time on the last trip, busy all the way, 15,000 klms
door to door. Are you still flat out with rebuilding the "sunburnt" country
down south, (Vic) bet you 'all did not count on the 2" to 4" of rain
yesterday around Melbourne town? Keep in touch, will make it down that way
when I can and will include Tasmania in the next trip as well.
Regards,
Erik

You are welcome, mate

For the life of me I can't remember entering that date in my Outlook
calendar (senior moment?) ,,, must have been mentioned in one of your post
and I thought it would be a good laugh to mention it at the appropriate
time. LOL



Someday one of you down unders will have to translate John's post. :-)



<<<<had the
billy on the boil and a couple of extra Morton bay bugs ready for the
barby>>>>



I'll try,,, lets see, you boil billy goats, drink a bear named Morton and
bar b q  bugs. Sounds like a wonderful cookout. LOL





Joking around, Ray



Ray Castano

Castano Construction Co.

God Bless America

PlansThatWork.com <http://www.plansthatwork.com/>



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From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of E. James Buttars
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:39 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] Mr. Erik James Buttars's Birthday







Thanks Ray,

Well bugger me! That's a long way from home, but thanks for the thought
Guy's. Yup, Route 66 it is!

Erik

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Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a "cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an actual technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen combo area I will
call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term, but I'm only drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda  Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/)


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Linda,

A cathedral ceiling (under "normal" circumstances) has a
structural ridge beam that spans from one end to the other -
either as a single span or as a multiple span over columns
and the rafters actually become floor joists tranfering
their imposed loads to the ridge and to the eave plate. The
structural ridge MUST be supported continuously down to the
foundation. If trusses are being used then there is no
structural ridge but (obviously) the pitch of the ceiling
will be substantially less than that of the roof. Trusses
will not work when the roof pitch is so low that a
structural truss cannot be created. A vaulted ceiling is
just what you have been doing - it is a raised (or lowered
depending on the design) section(s) of the ceiling and the
roof is basically conventionally framed.

Ted Crombie, CPBD
New Hampshire

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in
broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and yelling "WHOA! What a ride!"


   _____

From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
LindaIhle@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral




Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a
"cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an
actual technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen
combo area I will
call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the
difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term,
but I'm only drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxreale
<http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/> stateonline.com/)

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Linda,

It may vary by locale, but in Ohio, a "Cathedral" ceiling is always sloped.
and nearly always in both directions (as opposed to a mono-vault that is
sloped only in one direction.)



A "Vaulted" ceiling, simply means that at least a portion is raised up.
Both "Pan" ceilings and "Tray" ceilings could be considered a type of
vaulted ceiling, but not a type of cathedral.



In the broadest sense, a Cathedral Ceiling is a subset of the Vaulted
Ceiling.





From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of LindaIhle@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral





Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a "cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an actual
technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen combo area I will

call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term, but I'm only
drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/)

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Hi Linda

Around these parts, Cape Cod MA, we refer to a sloped ceiling that runs all
the way up to the ridge as "cathedral"



When the slope stops a the collar ties,,,, chapel or vaulted ceiling is
normally used.



I'm sure you know this but for  the benefit of others,,,, the "Ceiling Break
Lines" layer shows the transition point between the sloped ceiling and the
flat. I normally draw over these using my "ceiling line" layer and then turn
Chiefs off. Chief more often draws them in places I prefer not to have them.



HTH Ray



Ray Castano

Castano Construction Co.

God Bless America

PlansThatWork.com <http://www.plansthatwork.com/>



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From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of LindaIhle@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral





Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a "cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an actual
technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen combo area I will

call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term, but I'm only
drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxreale
<http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/> stateonline.com/)

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Dan,

I really can't agree with your statement that a cathedral
ceiling is a subset of a vaulted ceiling. They are two
distinct and separate structural systems.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in
broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and yelling "WHOA! What a ride!"


   _____

From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Holdgreve
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:13 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral




Linda,

It may vary by locale, but in Ohio, a "Cathedral" ceiling is
always sloped.
and nearly always in both directions (as opposed to a
mono-vault that is
sloped only in one direction.)

A "Vaulted" ceiling, simply means that at least a portion is
raised up.
Both "Pan" ceilings and "Tray" ceilings could be considered
a type of
vaulted ceiling, but not a type of cathedral.

In the broadest sense, a Cathedral Ceiling is a subset of
the Vaulted
Ceiling.

From: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@
<mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of LindaIhle@aol. <mailto:LindaIhle%40aol.com> com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral

Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a
"cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an
actual
technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen
combo area I will

call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the
difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term,
but I'm only
drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxreale
<http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/> stateonline.com/)

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Ted,

Never asked you to agree with me, just simply stated what the perception of
the nomenclature is here. The term "Vaulted" means there is something
happening in this ceiling. nothing more, nothing less. the term "Cathedral"
means that it is pitched all the way to the ridge.





From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ted C
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral





Dan,

I really can't agree with your statement that a cathedral
ceiling is a subset of a vaulted ceiling. They are two
distinct and separate structural systems.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in
broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and yelling "WHOA! What a ride!"


_____

From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Dan
Holdgreve
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:13 AM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral

Linda,

It may vary by locale, but in Ohio, a "Cathedral" ceiling is
always sloped.
and nearly always in both directions (as opposed to a
mono-vault that is
sloped only in one direction.)

A "Vaulted" ceiling, simply means that at least a portion is
raised up.
Both "Pan" ceilings and "Tray" ceilings could be considered
a type of
vaulted ceiling, but not a type of cathedral.

In the broadest sense, a Cathedral Ceiling is a subset of
the Vaulted
Ceiling.

From: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@
<mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of LindaIhle@aol. <mailto:LindaIhle%40aol.com> com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral

Good Morning Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference between a "vaulted ceiling" and a
"cathedral
ceiling"? Is it only a terminology difference or is there an
actual
technical
difference? Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen
combo area I will

call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the
difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term,
but I'm only
drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com_ (http://www.obxreale
<http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/> stateonline.com/)

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Thanks everybody for your response! I have drawn a couple houses with tray
ceilings but not any true cathedral like you guys have described. I'm glad
to  know that I am using the proper terminology when calling out my ceiling
framing.  Now I can tell my clients when they ask that there is a difference
but  their ceiling will be vaulted :-).

Thanks again!

Linda  Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateOnline.com


In a message dated 11/24/2009 8:19:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
simplyplans@... writes:




Dan,

I really can't agree with your statement that a  cathedral
ceiling is a subset of a vaulted ceiling. They are  two
distinct and separate structural systems.

"Life is not a journey  to the grave with the intention of
arriving in a
pretty and well  preserved body, but rather, to skid in
broadside, thoroughly
used up,  totally worn out, and yelling "WHOA! What a ride!"


_____

From:




_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/) _chief-users@chief-users@chi_
(mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com) _
[mailto:_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/)
_chief-users@chief-users@chi_ (mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com) _] On Behalf
Of  Dan
Holdgreve
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:13 AM
To: _ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/) _chief-users@chief-users@chi_
(mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: RE: [chief-users]  vaulted versus cathedral

Linda,

It may vary by locale, but in  Ohio, a "Cathedral" ceiling is
always sloped.
and nearly always in both  directions (as opposed to a
mono-vault that is
sloped only in one  direction.)

A "Vaulted" ceiling, simply means that at least a portion  is
raised up.
Both "Pan" ceilings and "Tray" ceilings could be  considered
a type of
vaulted ceiling, but not a type of cathedral.

In the broadest sense, a Cathedral Ceiling is a subset of
the  Vaulted
Ceiling.

From: chief-users@  <mailto:chief-mailto:chief-<WBmailto:>
yahoogroups.yahoogroups.<WBR>com yahoog
<mailto:chief-mailto:chief-<WBmailto:>  yahoogroups.  ya
Behalf Of LindaIhle@aol.  <mailto:LindaIhle%mailto:Li> com
Sent: Tuesday, November 24,  2009 8:03 AM
To: chief-users@  <mailto:chief-mailto:chief-<WBmailto:>
yahoogroups.yah
Subject:  [chief-users] vaulted versus cathedral

Good Morning  Everybody!!!

My latest silly question:

What's the difference  between a "vaulted ceiling" and a
"cathedra_l
ceiling"? Is it only a  terminology difference or is there an
actual
technical
difference?  Usually in my plans that have a living/kitchen
combo area I  will

call out the ceiling as "vaulted to collar ties".

Every  once in a while I'll have a client ask me what the
difference is
between the two and in my mind it seems like it's a term,
but I'm  only
drawing
small houses so maybe there is a difference?

Thanks  and Happy Thanksgiving!

Linda  Ihle
252-449-8422
_www.OBXRealEstateO_www.OBXReal_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/)
_http://www.obxreale_ (http://www.obxreale/) _
<_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/)
_http://www.obxrealehttp://www.ohttp_ (http://www.obxrealestateonline.com/) _>
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It is my understanding that it is although it may be a  matter of
semantics,although I generally refer to a single sloped ceiling (like on the 
bottom
side of a shed roof) as a 'vaulted' ceiling and a double or multiple
pitched ceiling as 'cathedral' ceiling. This terminology probably differs from
region to region.

Anthony Thompson Plans Ahead  LLC Branford, Ct.


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Hi Folks
My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone thru the 1220 and now
the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II and wondering if any
of you might have experience with this machine or would care to make suggestions
on a machine to buy.

Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray

Ray,

Can't comment on the Cannon, but steer way clear of the HP 9600!  What a
piece of junk! Has not worked right straight out of the box, when I called
the support line they said that my 8' long printer cord was to blame and
that all my problems would be resolved if I ran out a bought a 6' cord!
(Whew! Glad I got that off my chest!  I never realized the latent
frustration that created!... Thanks for allowing me to vent).



BTW anybody want to buy a slightly used HP 9600?   (humor)







From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of raycastano
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:13 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] 13x19 printer





Hi Folks
My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone thru the 1220 and
now the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II and wondering
if any of you might have experience with this machine or would care to make
suggestions on a machine to buy.

Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray





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Thanks Dan

Ray



Ray Castano

Castano Construction Co.

God Bless America

PlansThatWork.com <http://www.plansthatwork.com/>



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From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Holdgreve
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:35 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] 13x19 printer





Ray,

Can't comment on the Cannon, but steer way clear of the HP 9600! What a
piece of junk! Has not worked right straight out of the box, when I called
the support line they said that my 8' long printer cord was to blame and
that all my problems would be resolved if I ran out a bought a 6' cord!
(Whew! Glad I got that off my chest! I never realized the latent
frustration that created!... Thanks for allowing me to vent).

BTW anybody want to buy a slightly used HP 9600? (humor)

From: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
On
Behalf Of raycastano
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:13 PM
To: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] 13x19 printer

Hi Folks
My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone thru the 1220 and
now the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II and wondering
if any of you might have experience with this machine or would care to make
suggestions on a machine to buy.

Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray

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Dan,

I can trade you for a 25' footer that has been on my 1120C
for years (and works very well)!

Awhile back I had an Epsom printer that was apparently
engineered by the same person that engineered your 9600 and
I was told that my problems with it was the cable!
(Bu%%$###T!!).

I'm a little surprised at HP - I've used their products
(printing) for a long time and their plotters anyway have
never failed me.

I would like to replace the 1120C but haven't found a small
printer like it that will take 13"x19" paper and can still
do letters, envelopes, etc. (and for under $300.00). Any
suggestions, recommendations??



"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving in a
pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in
broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out, and yelling "WHOA! What a ride!"


   _____

From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Holdgreve
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:35 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chief-users] 13x19 printer




Ray,

Can't comment on the Cannon, but steer way clear of the HP
9600! What a
piece of junk! Has not worked right straight out of the box,
when I called
the support line they said that my 8' long printer cord was
to blame and
that all my problems would be resolved if I ran out a bought
a 6' cord!
(Whew! Glad I got that off my chest! I never realized the
latent
frustration that created!... Thanks for allowing me to
vent).

BTW anybody want to buy a slightly used HP 9600? (humor)

From: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@
<mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of raycastano
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:13 PM
To: chief-users@ <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [chief-users] 13x19 printer

Hi Folks
My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone
thru the 1220 and
now the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark
II and wondering
if any of you might have experience with this machine or
would care to make
suggestions on a machine to buy.

Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray

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i have had a Canon S9000 for years ...so long I don't even remember when
I got it... over 7 years ago, at least...i think it was their first
13x19 printer...i would not hesitate for a second to get another canon
printer it has been very reliable for everything from 4x6 photos to
13x19 prints....excellent print quality even then with 6 individual tanks

raycastano wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone thru the
> 1220 and now the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II
> and wondering if any of you might have experience with this machine or
> would care to make suggestions on a machine to buy.
>
> Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray
>
>
>

You're in luck Ray, one old timer to another, so to speak?
Colloquialisms'
Billy; campfire coffee pot; lid, no spout.
Billy on the boil; boil the water for black tea and sugar. (Make a fresh pot
of coffee)
Morton May Bug. A small spanner crab about the size of your palm caught
mainly in our northern sub-tropical waters; named after Morton Bay, the
expanse of water to the east of Brisbane City and Stradbroke Island, south
East Queensland. Okay everyone, altogether now; see if you can crash Google
Earth.
Next time we will try it your way Ray, whole goat on a spit roast, real
Aussie beer XXX and deep water ocean crayfish (Large Maine rock lobster)
sautéed in butter with crushed garlic and herbs. Remember the TV add, "Come
on down and put a shrimp on the barby"? Down here they are called prawns,
all types including tiger prawns as long as your hand, cooked on a wood fire
hotplate or open grill. Gumbo special, enough said?
Thanks guys now back to work; you lot that is, not me.
Erik

Thanks Tim

Good to hear from ya



Ray



Ray Castano

Castano Construction Co.

God Bless America

PlansThatWork.com <http://www.plansthatwork.com/>



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From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tim O'Donnell
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 3:11 PM
To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [chief-users] 13x19 printer





i have had a Canon S9000 for years ...so long I don't even remember when
I got it... over 7 years ago, at least...i think it was their first
13x19 printer...i would not hesitate for a second to get another canon
printer it has been very reliable for everything from 4x6 photos to
13x19 prints....excellent print quality even then with 6 individual tanks

raycastano wrote:
>
>
> Hi Folks
> My HP cp1700 is on it's last leg. Over the years I've gone thru the
> 1220 and now the 1700. I'm looking at a Cannon,, PIXMA Pro9000 Mark II
> and wondering if any of you might have experience with this machine or
> would care to make suggestions on a machine to buy.
>
> Buying myself an early Xmas present, Ray
>
>
>





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Very interesting,,, thanks Erik

Ray Castano
Castano Construction Co.
God Bless America
PlansThatWork.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of E. James Buttars
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:21 PM
> To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [chief-users] Birthday
>
> You're in luck Ray, one old timer to another, so to speak?
> Colloquialisms'
> Billy; campfire coffee pot; lid, no spout.
> Billy on the boil; boil the water for black tea and sugar. (Make a fresh
> pot
> of coffee)
> Morton May Bug. A small spanner crab about the size of your palm caught
> mainly in our northern sub-tropical waters; named after Morton Bay, the
> expanse of water to the east of Brisbane City and Stradbroke Island, south
> East Queensland. Okay everyone, altogether now; see if you can crash
> Google
> Earth.
> Next time we will try it your way Ray, whole goat on a spit roast, real
> Aussie beer XXX and deep water ocean crayfish (Large Maine rock lobster)
> sautéed in butter with crushed garlic and herbs. Remember the TV add,
> "Come
> on down and put a shrimp on the barby"? Down here they are called prawns,
> all types including tiger prawns as long as your hand, cooked on a wood
> fire
> hotplate or open grill. Gumbo special, enough said?
> Thanks guys now back to work; you lot that is, not me.
> Erik
>
>
>
>
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Well described Erik but the god dam Yanks will still be nun the wiser most
dont even know where gods paradise (Australia) is and they are still in the
dark ages using feet & inches they dont know how simple it is using metric
eg 15 metres = 15000mm = 49' - 2 & 9/16" (if my conversion is correct)
divided by say 3 in metric is so easy is 5000mm = 1 calculation but in
imperial I ended up having to do 8 calculations to arrive at 16'- 4 & 7/8"
(did I do something wrong) stuff that give me metric any time.

Thats going to start a debate  Lol

Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "E. James Buttars" <chiefqld@...>
To: <chief-users@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [chief-users] Birthday


> You're in luck Ray, one old timer to another, so to speak?
> Colloquialisms'
> Billy; campfire coffee pot; lid, no spout.
> Billy on the boil; boil the water for black tea and sugar. (Make a fresh
> pot
> of coffee)
> Morton May Bug. A small spanner crab about the size of your palm caught
> mainly in our northern sub-tropical waters; named after Morton Bay, the
> expanse of water to the east of Brisbane City and Stradbroke Island, south
> East Queensland. Okay everyone, altogether now; see if you can crash
> Google
> Earth.
> Next time we will try it your way Ray, whole goat on a spit roast, real
> Aussie beer XXX and deep water ocean crayfish (Large Maine rock lobster)
> sautéed in butter with crushed garlic and herbs. Remember the TV add,
> "Come
> on down and put a shrimp on the barby"? Down here they are called prawns,
> all types including tiger prawns as long as your hand, cooked on a wood
> fire
> hotplate or open grill. Gumbo special, enough said?
> Thanks guys now back to work; you lot that is, not me.
> Erik
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> ===================================================================
> = Chief-Users Group Home Page:
> = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chief-users
> =
> = Chief-Users File Vault:
> = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chief-users/files
> =
> = Chief-Tangent Group: (for off-topic discussions)
> = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chief-tangent
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>