Hello all, A designer I am collaborating with on a personal project is also considering bidding on another project that will necessitate a partnership with a...
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Doug Alcorn
lathinet
Apr 17, 2008 5:56 pm
It's been a while since we've had one of these lunches. I'd really like to get together with some of the members that have been slacking lately. Maybe lunch...
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Bill Barnett
barnetwc
Apr 17, 2008 6:14 pm
Count me in. Rob B. is sitting next to me and says to count him in as well. BB...
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Scott Barron
kain224
Apr 17, 2008 6:27 pm
... If Bill's in, I'm in! -Scott...
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Jim Weirich
jimweirich
Apr 17, 2008 6:30 pm
... Works for me. -- -- Jim Weirich -- jim.weirich@......
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Chris Nelson
cnelson4eii
Apr 17, 2008 6:41 pm
I'm in. What time? --Chris ... From: Jim Weirich <jim.weirich@...> To: cinci-art@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:30:47 PM Subject: Re:...
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Doug Alcorn
lathinet
Apr 17, 2008 7:11 pm
This sounds great! I'll be there at 11:30am 4/22...
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Tyler Weaver
trailsweaver
Apr 17, 2008 7:15 pm
Im in....
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Charles L Flatt
charles_flatt
Apr 17, 2008 8:03 pm
Speaking as a total Agile Slacker, I'll do my best to be there....
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Jay Zimmerman
jz_tcpn
Apr 17, 2008 10:05 pm
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Elizabeth Naramore
elizabeth_in...
Apr 18, 2008 3:08 pm
Hi group, Lurker here ... with a quick question regarding 37Signals' book "Getting Real". This is a great read and we use a lot of the advice given in the ...
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Mark Windholtz
WindMark
Apr 18, 2008 7:04 pm
Elisabeth, It's been a while since I read it but I remember that there were practices that probably worked in their own situation but did not seem generally...
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Mark Windholtz
WindMark
Apr 18, 2008 8:16 pm
Edge Case will be presenting at the next C-ART meeting on May 6th, 2008 Sit in like a fly on the wall with a development team as they wrestle with the issues...
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Joe OBrien
joeobjo
Apr 18, 2008 8:18 pm
Just to clarify, this will be Jim Weirich and I from EdgeCase and Chris Nelson (who is so cool, he doesn't need a company ... that is why they call him...
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Elizabeth Naramore
elizabeth_in...
Apr 19, 2008 2:24 am
... Specifically I'm in e-commerce, but we use open source software, and coded our own back-end while hacking up our front end to fit our needs. So really our...
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Mark Windholtz
WindMark
Apr 19, 2008 3:13 am
... It seems to me that if you say 'no' to customers they say 'no' to paying you. Perhaps the key is to say 'no' to customers that would not pay you anyway. Or...
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David Anderson
tfhma
Apr 19, 2008 2:45 pm
On the conjoined subjects of worry and pain: I'm reminded of a podcast I listened to a while back from 43 Folders - the To Have Done List. Basically, the...
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Scott Barron
kain224
Apr 19, 2008 7:31 pm
... I think the saying no thing is particular to certain types of business and I can definitely see your e-commerce example being much different than the 37...
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Tyler Weaver
trailsweaver
Apr 19, 2008 8:24 pm
You will find many of the agile traits already exist in good business leadership. I think a reason why agile development is so popular is because it fits in...
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Edward Sumerfield
esumerfd
Apr 22, 2008 2:41 am
Paul Spencer came up with a nice concept today and I thought I would throw it out to you brainy people. Most of the system we write use a Contract class so...
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Jim Weirich
jimweirich
Apr 22, 2008 3:09 am
... So, you're proposing that in production you just get the wrong answer (e.g. 10/1)? Actually, according to the rules of design by contract, if you don't ...
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Mark Windholtz
WindMark
Apr 22, 2008 4:19 am
Another approach comes from the Checks pattern language http://c2.com/ppr/checks.html Instead of returning a made up answer return an Exceptional Value Object....
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Charles L Flatt
charles_flatt
Apr 22, 2008 5:13 am
"Self correcting" seems misleading, to me. The value submitted was invalid, so the function can't return a "correct" value. It seems to me it's the calling...
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Edward Sumerfield
esumerfd
Apr 22, 2008 4:31 pm
Yes, my divide by zero example is extreme. Error management has changed a little over the years from the old days of "if !null" to Mark's sanitization of this...
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Charles L Flatt
charles_flatt
Apr 22, 2008 6:19 pm
This topic came up at the lunch today, and among the comments was, I think, a general agreement that returning an invalid value rather than raising an error...
What an interesting thread. I'd like to echo one of Ed's remarks "Lower level apis usually just have to fail because they don't understand enough about the ...
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Michael Schneider
scmikes03
Apr 23, 2008 1:30 pm
Ed, Since design by contract is contract based, it may help to have a template of a contract (this should be ran by a lawyer before use :-). Design by Contract...
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Michael Schneider
scmikes03
Apr 23, 2008 1:47 pm
Copy and paste goe me, I added an entry in precondition B Mike ... -File Create or Write Fail exception thrown in Precondition A ********** This defines the...
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cinci-art@yahoogroups...
Apr 24, 2008 1:02 pm
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the cinci-art group: Will you attend the Tuesday May 6th. Topic Data vs Object Modeling. o Yes and...
