Good idea! I've added the link to the wiki: http://www.citconf.com/wiki/index.php?title=OnTheWeb Jtf On Jun 30, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Nizam Abdallah wrote: Hello...
For the people in Melbourne who were at The People Side of CI Session there were a couple of people who asked for a copy of the slides that I used. I've posted...
Hi Jeffrey, That link has (apart from the detailed pdf) a contact button that points directly back to this list; it might be a good idea to link to a private...
Hi everyone, I know this is summer time and all that (for those not living down-under, of course), plus Agile 2008 is probably more on your mind than CITCON. ...
Very cool! Seems like we could reasonably double attendance over last year... Jtf On Jul 12, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Eric Lefevre wrote: Hi everyone, I know this is...
Hi all, Ben and I attended the CITCON conference in April in Denver. We were inspired by CITCON and with some guidance from Jeffrey and PJ we have started an...
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A topic at most CITCONs seems to be "What is CI?" I think CITCON must have test infected me - nn a recent short article I try to change the most commonly used...
In my experience of ThoughtWorks, I think you can expect J. Random ThoughtWorker to care about testing, and about automated functional testing. But everything...
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Eric, ... http://www.anthillpro.com/blogs/anthillpro-blog/2008/07/14/1216083300000\ .html ... I went back over Fowler's paper and then your blog and I am...
Julian, would you put any limits around that? Make the team feel the pain of a 15 minute build but if you have 4 hours of tests then use another approach? I'm...
Matt, The build can definately include fast tests. But where we have tests that take "a long time" we should not include them in our build. Nor should we have...
Eric, ... that ... we ... The ... our ... We have what we call "nightly builds" that run at night. Essentially these builds start from "bare metal" so to...
... Sorry, for jumping in, but the confusion appears to have come from the removal of the word "testing". His original post has: "The build's main job is to...
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"The build's main job is to ensure that compilation works, everything is tested and to package up our software." I don't think there's any disagreement where...
... I think that the statement above is exactly what prompted Eric's blog post. CI is not about build. At its most basic, CI is about integrating source code...
Matt, We also distinguish between more than one type of build. Developers usually do the acceptably fast one, the development manager (me) usually focuses on...
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I was just working with CC.rb last week. By default, my project got a "build" button and when you press it, the project executes its target, which in my case...
Maciej, ... I understand all of this... and generally agree. I certainly agree with the emphasis on tests. ... Again. Writing a blog to say that "Continuous...
Chris, ... usually ... and ... relates ... any ... in ... the ... Thanks for the write-up here. This was very helpful to guide my thinking, particularly the...
Bret, ... I don't believe there is a confusion here. I can speak for Viewtier's customer base, which is pretty extensive and diverse. A build is consistently...
@Dr Build I wouldn't say it's a "cultural issue" about 5 minute builds - as you point out it's about the desire to reduce the feedback cycle time so that...
... In my opinion, this demonstrates that the word "build" is hideously overloaded and we have to be very careful about using it. Although Eric makes valid...
... Absolutely. ... I don't think that the possibility of manual testing is the sole reason why Eric would chose not to use the term "build." I think he did a...
... Well, it wasn't supposed to be an accusation -- clearly I am in no position to object to somebody consulting around a product. I certainly think Eric makes...
... I'm in the middle of putting something together on this. But here's a short summary... Basically, I think there are three types of approaches and...
Maciej, Thanks for this excellent description of the differences you see in these methodologies. I appreciate the time and effort you put into this post. In...
I have been thinking about this one all day. I think it's about the constraints. Do you have enough QA people to adequately test what is being written? If...
Julian Simpson
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Julian, I share your experience. I am on a large, distributed project right now and we do disallow commits when functional tests fail. Currently our build...
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