Thanks for tip, I'll have to keep an eye out for one. FYI, I'm in
the DFW area (tx), a long way from all of those classics that seem to
be massing out west.



--- In classictelescopes@yahoogroups.com, "Clint Whitman" <clint@...>
wrote:
>
> kauzuak1,,,, Well I cant see your name or location but I am Glad my
> old post helped you get more excited about classic scopes and put
> some of it into perspective. With more time and scopes under my
belt
> than I had when writing the post I would make the comment that
among
> the japan made 1960s refractors some of the best I have seen in the
> 60mm thur 76mm range are the Mayflower scopes they are nicely built
> and the 3 I have worked on have had flawless optics. They seem to
be
> a good vaule for a first scope to look for a deal on one. I found a
> 76mm for $80 on craigs list and it has great optics and is one of
my
> favorite scopes to setup for a quiky!!!!! Clint Caveman Whitman
> Thanks and have more fun than you should!!!!
>
>
> --- In classictelescopes@yahoogroups.com, "kauzuak1" <kauzuak1@>
> wrote:
> >
> > this is a great post, it puts into perspective the desire and
> appeal
> > of classics scopes. While it saved me from bidding up on a
classic
> > scope on Ebay for now, in the end it did reinforced my desire for
> > some classic glass.
> >
> >
> > --- In classictelescopes@yahoogroups.com, "Clint whitman"
<clint@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well it been busy here with work and all. Finally got the San &
> > > Streiffe 76 mm Carton Optical Company 1965 Refractor that I
> > > purchased on E-bay! The kicker was the scope was listed the
first
> > > time and I was out bid. The bid went all the way to $203 plus
$55
> > > shipping so it was way beyond what I would spend in its
> condition,
> > > but I was looking on E-bay the next day and the scope re-
listed.
> I
> > e-
> > > mail the guy and asked why he didn't take the next lowest bid
> since
> > > the buyer backed out he said he didn't know he could and he
would
> > > just let it ride, my bid on the first action was $145. Well he
re-
> > > listed on Monday morning 9 am Pacific Time so I just watched
and
> no
> > > one saw the re-list. The morning of the end of action the scope
> was
> > > at $45 everyone including me was at work and 15 seconds before
> the
> > > end I put $75 and the one other guy watching it only had time
to
> > try
> > > $50 so I won the scope for $52 plus shipping of $55. All the
> parts
> > > are there and most are in new condition the tube has a dent but
> > > every thing else was in great shape. On the first night the
scope
> > > produced allot of flaring. Playing around with it I figured out
> > that
> > > both lenses were in backwards so after a good cleaning and flip
> now
> > > the star tests are good and I can make out the Cassini
divisions
> in
> > > Saturn's rings from Van Nuys CA. Which I would assume is good,
> nice
> > > clear stars and black back ground. So I am in the midst of
> > > restoration I did the main cell and the focuser in order to
> > > determine if the scope was a keeper prior to a complete
> > restoration.
> > > I started a photo directory for it and will be posting to it.
> Well
> > > one thing I do want to mention is this. The only other scope I
> have
> > > of the size is a Williams Optics 80mm Fl. Anniversary you know
> the
> > > little red dude you see around. I think it is an F7 where the
> > Carton
> > > is a F15. In a side by side test of the Optics the WO scope
blows
> > > the socks off the Classic Carton refractor, both using 11/4
inch
> > > eyepieces. The WO also costs I think around $700 to $800 for
the
> WO
> > > and is a 2" eyepiece scope. The view thru the WO is hard to
beat
> > for
> > > its size and set up on a vixen alt az mount it is a dream to
use
> > > compared to the good old Tasco. Now I am only pointing this out
> for
> > > one reason, that if you are just getting into astronomy please
> get
> > a
> > > large aperture scope or spend a lot of money on a small high
> > quality
> > > refractor and a really good eyepiece in order to get blown away
> by
> > > the sky before you get into the Really cool old classic scopes
> like
> > > a 60mm or 76 or 80mm Towa, GOTO, Carton There is a reason so
> many
> > > of these are sitting in peoples closets, They do not hold a
> candle
> > > to a scope like a 10" SCT or a big reflector. I think if I
didn't
> > my
> > > socks blown off by M13 and my Tak 130 F or the Cave I wouldn't
> > still
> > > be so stoked to go rebuild, tweak and peek this 45 year old
> > Japanese
> > > scope or the 1960 4" Unitron that's coming. These should be
> viewed
> > > just like classic cars. 2007 Honda = WO 80mm FL. 1966 Camaro =
> 1965
> > > Cave 12.5 F8. 1966 six cylinder mustang = Carton 76mm. And the
> 1965
> > > Austin Martin would be the 5" Ziess Please comment on this
> Thats
> > > what the group is for,,,, Clint
> > >
> >
>