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Re: COLORADO SPRINGS GAZETTE [7-09]   Message List  
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Re: [climatechangedebate] COLORADO SPRINGS GAZETTE [7-09]


Bob,
 
"David, Carlin wasn't an expert, was just parroting Pat Michaels, etc:"
 
People in the EPA are not climate expert neither, so why are they messing with a conection between CO2 and climate?
 
But what's vital here s the essence of the matter: Don't kill the messenger after reading the message. Concentrate in the message and if you can refute it, on scientific grounds, then that's OK. I wish you luck trying to find a scientific proof about AGW and a CO2 conection.
 
Eduardo
 

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Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [climatechangedebate] COLORADO SPRINGS GAZETTE [7-09]

David,

Carlin wasn't an expert, was just parroting Pat Michaels, etc:

"Meanwhile the same Fox News report makes clear what we had already suspected: Carlin wrote the report on agency time, but under his own initiative.

An EPA official told FOXNews.com on Monday that Carlin, who is an economist — not a scientist — included “no original research” in his report. The official said that Carlin “has not been muzzled in the agency at all,” but stressed that his report was entirely “unsolicited.”

“It was something that he did on his own,” the [EPA] official said. “Though he was not qualified, his manager indulged him and allowed him on agency time to draft up … a set of comments.....”

http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/30/suppressed-carlin-report-based-on-pat-michaels-attack-on-epa/

Bob

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