Ned: "Et voilà" (4 useful English references): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/354023909X/002-3558181-3794465?v=glance&n=2 83155 ...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 2, 2006 1:25 am
Dear Rui, I had read one of your links previously, and here is Leroux: Marcel Leroux Responds "One perverse aspect of the scenario put forth by the...
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Ned Ford
Ned.Ford@...
Jun 2, 2006 5:51 am
Hi Rui, Please don't tell me I have to explain what's wrong with cherry-picking local temperatures. This stuff isn't even accurate any more, although the...
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Jonathan Sturm
jonathan@...
Jun 3, 2006 5:22 am
... Eh? You mean the global warming that started early in the 20th C didn't? The Git...
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Ned Ford
Ned.Ford@...
Jun 3, 2006 6:02 am
Okay, I give up. The models stink. - Ned PS: That's sarcastic, for those of you who speak English in the naysayer dialect. The models are widely varied, and...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 4, 2006 3:41 am
Bob, you are speaking in bad faith. Perhaps you are the only one in the warmer horde that does not think that the climate behaves "globally" -- that is, it...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 4, 2006 4:54 am
I should accuse you and Leroux of bad faith. Leroux says that we warmers "make believe that climate behaves in the same fashion everywhere, over the whole...
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Ned Ford
Ned.Ford@...
Jun 4, 2006 5:39 am
Hi Jonathan, You need to look at the URLs which Rui provided. They assert that there was no warming in Eastern Canada or Greenland. Leroux supports this claim...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 5, 2006 12:58 am
Dear Rui, If you speak Portuguese with Gallegos they will understand you because their dialect is extremely similar. However, most Spaniards don't understand...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Jun 5, 2006 10:12 pm
Bob "It used 10 year old data to claim cooling, but I debunked them with..." This extract (from below), together with other claims that you have "debunked"...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 5, 2006 11:54 pm
Bruce, Do I have to be a scientist to point out the obvious? Notice that this previously posted: ...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Jun 6, 2006 12:26 am
Bob "because they avoided showing the big temperature increase after 1995." You said previously that this was due to ENSO. Are you being selective,...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 6, 2006 1:15 am
Ned: Wow! Eduardo ... From: Bruce Forbes To: climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: [climatechangedebate] To Rui...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 6, 2006 1:25 am
Bob, dear: You have never debunked nothing or no one. You simply can't because you rely on a scientific hoax. It is as simple as that. For debunking something...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 6, 2006 1:35 am
Bruce: Get a load: <http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003040068_warming05.html> Regards, Eduardo ... From: Bruce Forbes To:...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 6, 2006 1:43 am
Bruce, When you and others disengenously said that there had been global cooling since 1998, I said that 1998 was a peak year due to ENSO. Of course 2005 was...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 6, 2006 1:53 am
Ed, Are you going to claim UHI for the last 10 years of rising temperatures in Angmagssalik? Where is the hoax? ...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Jun 6, 2006 3:37 am
Thanks Eduardo This article provides a very good summary of the current state of the debate. You can but admire the rare journalist who presents both sides ...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 6, 2006 4:08 am
I recommend going to the webpage to access the many links in this story: Bob http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/06/more_global_warming_links.php#more More...
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Bruce Forbes
bruce_forbes_nz
Jun 6, 2006 4:15 am
Bob I can only assume that the point you are trying to make is that there is no scientific consensus on the climate change issue. I agree. Cheers Bruce ...
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DAVE DARDINGER
ded2mod
Jun 6, 2006 5:06 am
Bob, I have no respect for Tim Lambert, seeing the games he tries playing on ClimateAudit.com. If he knew his stuff he's engage on the science there instead...
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Ned Ford
Ned.Ford@...
Jun 6, 2006 5:07 am
Hi Eduardo, You haven't been on this list long enough to know how foolish these predictions (Gray's claim that a cooling trend will initiate in a few years)...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Jun 6, 2006 5:39 am
Dave, You could have commented on the substance of one of the many issues in Lambert's blog, but you prefer to ad hom the messenger. BTW, his latest: Pat...
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Rui G. Moura
rui368moura
Jun 6, 2006 11:15 am
Refutation is refutation 1 – Every data are updated in «Global Warming: Myth or Reality? The Erring Ways of Climatology» by Marcel Leroux, 2005. This was...
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DAVE DARDINGER
ded2mod
Jun 6, 2006 1:00 pm
Paul Krugman is your support for Lambert? Talk about the blind leading the blind! Anyway I just read the Lambert thread pointed to and it certainly doesn't...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 6, 2006 2:32 pm
Ned, I have been long enough into the climate science field as to know Dr. Gray is right. For what I've seen during my staying in this list is that warmers...
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Jun 6, 2006 3:35 pm
In a message dated 6/6/2006 7:34:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, funareco@... writes: I have been long enough into the climate science field as to know Dr....
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narodaleahcim@...
pawnfart
Jun 6, 2006 3:42 pm
In a message dated 6/6/2006 6:01:13 AM Pacific Standard Time, dedmod@... writes: Dave is not going to put his name on the front of that list. If you want...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Jun 6, 2006 8:18 pm
Ned, Ned, Your post has not waste: "If you look at the annual indications, rather than the filtered annual decadal curve, it is obvious that annual variation...
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Ned Ford
Ned.Ford@...
Jun 7, 2006 3:54 am
Hi Dave, Maybe the Lambert article was too complicated for you. Hansen presented a graph with three scenarios to Congress. Michaels showed up ten years...