Any reply which begins "Andy Lacis misses the point entirely" sends the poster immediately and permanently to the scrap heap. _ Walt ... From: ALAR AKSBERG...
... OK, but a denialist's mind is made up and this is not OK? Lacis' answer is: physics. The physical world requires that the planet warm when we build CO2....
Walt, It's nice to see you being open-minded again, and consigning someone to the scrapheap immediately and permanently just because they disagree with you, is...
I fail to see how this film clip of the well known temperature calculations disproves UHI. Whoever wrote that is an idiot. These calculations are the starting...
Al, Which of Hansen's numbers? Here is Gavin's quote: "The overlaps complicate things, but it's clear that water vapour is the single most important absorber...
David, How much of the globe is cities? I heard the old story about Russians claiming colder in the Soviet era to get more fuel, but Alaska is warming too, as...
Solar radiation variation in all frequencies, not just visible light, and cosmic ray variation are also Physics, calculable by Mathematics and are in total...
Bob, you must not have read my post carefully. It is not about cities it is about human influence. Almost all of the thermometers are in settled places that...
Kevin and others have mentioned Gore's 650,000 year graph. I have a copy of The Great Global Chainsaw Massacre, a.k.a, AIT. I have studied the graph. Mostly it...
Ian L. McQueen
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Mar 1, 2008 2:43 pm
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Bob - the graph and globe representations that we were talking about earlier this week explain why Alaska has warmed since about 1977. It's the PDO, not AGW. ...
The Staff Family
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Mar 1, 2008 2:43 pm
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Plus AGW requires warming at both ends of the earth and we do not see that. The overall high latitude picture is strong evidence against AGW, not for it. David...
Greg, I acknowledge the warming in the Gulf of Alsaka and accept that it could be part of PDO, but notice that the rest of the globe warming too. So your...
Bob- The last that I read about "ocean temperatures" was that the situation was a dog's dinner, with readings being sometimes at the surface, other times at...
Ian L. McQueen
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Mar 1, 2008 3:10 pm
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David, We see warming in the Antarctic Ocean, but not much of the land mass of Antarctica. My guess? It is about 2 miles high, doesn't have a thick CO2...
Bob- Don't forget that there isn't much radiant energy hitting Antarctica at the best of times, so the amount of CO2 there is pretty well irrelevant. Most heat...
Ian L. McQueen
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Mar 1, 2008 3:22 pm
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John Daly did a thing on it, and we argued here about 6 years ago (where is Ralph Mullinger?) but my assumption is that the old bucket readings came from the...
We don't have any historical temperature data from the oceans, Bob. Averaging the readings from ships that may be hundreds of miles apart has no mathematical...
Walt, I did too. I think that he was on the right track until he got to "inescapable conclusion arrived at by mathematical reasoning is that the Earth is...
Bob M, as usual thinks "Real Climate" is the "real" source. "Real Climate" has a mission (yes, religious terms are proper in that context) to dispute any non...
David, you are certainly correct. A "rural" station can be located next to a paved road, a building, or a window air conditioner just like an urban station...
How can anyone keep a straight face while claiming that there is a "scientific consensus" on anthropogenic global warming? No matter which side of the issue...
I am honored to be quoted in the article, especially as one of the Nobel-activist-prize winning IPCC horde. Even within the IPCC there is no consensus, not if...
Bruce, You will have to learn to live with the word "denialist", because it isn't going away. As long as you are capable of assessing information objectively,...
Unfortunately Bruce, we do not have a representative sample so even if we had perfect data we could not tell what the temperature (or the trend) is. As it is,...
Walt, I know that we have been fussed at about not trimming our messages. But when we are responding to a comment, it would sure be more convenient if the...
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