You add more CO2 to the atmosphere, and the surface must warm. I quote from a posting Jan 20/08 to Climate Sceptics by William Kininmonth, who has a few clues...
Walt, I will not learn to live with a term as derogatory and misrepresentative as "denialist." There are quite a quite a few words that are common used that I...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Mar 1, 2008 8:48 pm
Belief in AGW is like a religion. Once the dogma has been fixed in the minds of believers they will resist any effort to persuade them that they are mistaken....
Unfortunately David, the myth that we do have a representative sample exists. If we are going to even have stations, we should eliminate those that are...
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The Staff Family
famstaff@...
Mar 1, 2008 9:33 pm
Well, my assertions about Alaska are 100% correct. And there is not enough compelling evidence for the rest of the world to compel us to control CO2...
No, your assertions only apply 100% if all of the Alsaka warming is due to PDO. The Siberian warming at the same time suggests Alaska isn't all PDO, unless the...
Bruce wrote: "And I might grant that additional CO2 might produce some amount additional warming. The question is whether that additional warming (whatever the...
Nonsense. First of all, there are many models with many results. There is no such thing as "what the models say." Second, there is nothing in basic AGW that...
We were talking on a longer time frame. Do you claim to know that it is warmer today than in the 1930's? How? David David wrote: "The proper conclusion is that...
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The Staff Family
famstaff@...
Mar 1, 2008 10:50 pm
The global representations show wind direction as well - and it was from the south. Since the AGW people want us to change our whole economic system to...
Walt, for me "conclusive" means something that has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt. We shouldn't contemplate public policy changes that will cost us...
Ian, You also say: I quote from a posting Jan 20/08 to Climate Sceptics by William Kininmonth, who has a few clues about global atmospherics: "For a doubling...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Mar 1, 2008 11:10 pm
And would you care to elaborate why an amateur like you dares make such a judgment about the work of an expert? On what grounds are we supposed to take your...
David, "Investment in clean energy in 2007 represented 19 percent of global funding of energy industry infrastructure.." So you and the other 'dirty' energy...
Shame on you David. I never dreamed that you were a "dirty energy" sort of guy. How much of that $781 billion are you getting? :) Personally when I look at...
David, You said: "Plus AGW requires warming at both ends of theearth". On what did you base that? - Walt ... From: David E. Wojick <dwojick@...> To:...
David, I claim to know that CO2 is building, causing a radiative imbalance which is causing warming. I base that knowledge on the measurements which have been...
Bruce wrote: "If there is already enough CO2 to absorb IR at the CO2 absorption peaks that would leave only absorption away from the peaks which is much less....
"The work of an expert" would be somebody inside the climate science community. Yes, I believe them. - Walt ... From: Ian L. McQueen <imcqueen@...> To:...
Ian, The hoi-polloi neither know nor care, which is why the politicians are able to get away with what they are doing. Here in the U.K., contrary to what David...
Walt, do you mean that there isn't yet enough CO2 to absorb most of the IR at the CO2 absorption peaks? Here is what one scientist said on the subject: "We see...
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Predict Weather
ken@...
Mar 2, 2008 1:08 am
... For a doubling of Chutzpah concentration, typical reports from IPCC increase, and Al Gores are released, reaching media saturation point over about a...
Here is something from Anthony Watts about the global temperature drop over the last year. There are four sources mentioned. Two are from the same satellite...
... <wbennettjr@...> wrote in msg #17388: "We don't get a 33*C GHG effect without the strength of CO2 as a persistent GHG. It's just that simple." It is a pure...
Models (there are lots, and come in all flavors) also expect Antarctica melting. They bet on all 36 numbers in the roulette... Eduardo ... From: Walt Bennett ...
Watts wrote: "I was surprised to learn that only 5% of the GISS data-set was on the cool side of zero, while a whopping 95% was on the warm side. Even with a...
Well, Warmers will have to live with the word "Denialists" applied to them: they are increasingly denying solar effects on climate and any possibility of a...
