I would just like to wish all my Southern Hemisphere mates a Happy Spring Day. I'm sitting here in 3 layers of clothing and a very thick jacket, freezing my...
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ken@...
Sep 1, 2008 9:35 am
David There is a simple exercise anyone can do to establish a moon effect, and it was a cornerstone discovery for me back in the 1970s. It is the potency of...
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dwojick@...
dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 11:05 am
Ken, If you have a mathematical model (not just a computational procedure) of the sun-moon-weather physics, then let's see the basic equations. Is it a...
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dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 11:10 am
Ken, Describe the exercise so we can see what kind of science is involved. Sounds like a statistical analysis. David Sep 1, 2008 05:36:04 AM,...
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ken@...
Sep 1, 2008 11:43 am
David Your post is confusing, sorry. Are you maintaining that without an equation-rich mathematical model, science cannot exist so by definition only...
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dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 12:16 pm
Ken, we are talking about physics which is a well defined and mathematically rich field. There is a lot of work done on statistical analysis of sun-climate...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 1, 2008 12:26 pm
Chris- Sprng? You've got three more weeks of winter to suffer. Then the switch will flick and warmth will pour fourth. Ian [ex-Melbournian with tongue...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2008 4:18 pm
To save us time, since Ken is coy about his methods, here is a quote from him in a forum that has many posts debunking him at the same link below: "I have just...
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Albert Masetti
almase43@...
Sep 1, 2008 4:42 pm
Ken, It IS a club ... often an old boy's club, but it's never gender-specific. Which is why plate tectonics took so long to be accepted. Not sure which...
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Albert Masetti
almase43@...
Sep 1, 2008 5:29 pm
Chris, In accordance with policy serial 08-01-003,73c.77g - 6b (rev)[AG] .... only record high temperatures are to be counted in the collection of data/ datum...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 5:37 pm
Al, Plate tectonics was accepted because of the discovery of alternating bands of magnetisim in that crust, which demonstrated sea floor spreading from the...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 1, 2008 5:45 pm
So, when the science (and applied science) are under the custody of a bureaucracy, the bureaucracy39;s core goal is to protract the work. Their big fear is that...
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dwojick@...
dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 6:19 pm
Ian, this is a very strong claim. Where do you know of this happening? I happen to track the USDOE Office of Science, which has custody of (ie, funds) $4...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 1, 2008 7:06 pm
Thanks Bob, very interesting. It seems to be all a matter of concatenating periodic cycles. The basic problem here begins with the Fourier transform. It shows...
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Walt
wbennettjr
Sep 1, 2008 8:06 pm
Well if not unrealistic, at least at the outer edge of plausibility, and keep in mind that many people forget that the process will take hundreds of years to...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 1, 2008 8:18 pm
David D- Do you mean David? Ian ... From: <dwojick@...> To: <climatechangedebate@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 3:19 PM Subject:...
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Albert Masetti
almase43@...
Sep 1, 2008 8:34 pm
David, Bureaucracies do drag stuff out. They can't help themselves. The Anniversary of 9/11 is in a few days. I visited the neighborhood a few weeks ago....
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Susana Stock
susana.stock@...
Sep 1, 2008 11:38 pm
Yes well , Perhaps all that Arctic meltwater from the last couple of years is slowing down the Gulf Stream current and leading to a new Ice Age in your area....
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ken@...
Sep 2, 2008 3:56 am
It is often said that travel broadens the mind, and that bilingual people are advantaged if they can think in more than one language. It may similarly be a...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 2, 2008 1:32 pm
Good point, Walt. We can call the hypothesis that CO2 will increase the upper bound of the chaotic temperature oscillation "chaotic AGW." (Let's not forget...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 2, 2008 3:41 pm
Welcome, SS. Al was kidding of course, so I hope you are too. Australia is probably not warmed much by the Gulf Stream. Plus I think the whole Ice Age in...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 2, 2008 4:01 pm
To which we might add that there is good evidence that it isn't the waters of the Gulf Stream that keep N Europe mild, but the air off the Atlantic. Same...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 2, 2008 9:35 pm
I don't understand this message, Ian. What is your question? David David D- Do you mean David? Ian ... From: <<mailto:dwojick%40hughes.net>dwojick@...> ...
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glparramatta
Sep 3, 2008 12:22 am
/....we with flesh, blood and brain, belong to nature, and exist in its midst, and... all our mastery of it consists in the fact that we have the advantage of...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Sep 3, 2008 1:36 am
Nice example of Newspeak. ["For socialists in the 20th century imperialism was the great dividing line between those who accepted the logic of capitalist...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 3, 2008 1:48 am
David- You addressed the previous message to me, but you were replying to one from David, not me. Ian ... From: "David E. Wojick" <dwojick@...> To:...
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David E. Wojick
dewojick
Sep 3, 2008 5:31 am
I agree Al, but you were claiming the dragging out was deliberate. The reason these delays occur is a major research area of mine, called chaos management: ...
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hollym27
Sep 3, 2008 10:00 am
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 3, 2008 1:47 pm
Read and weep. http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/opinion/article/403976 Ian...
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ardoucette
Sep 3, 2008 2:47 pm
I think that you will see the pendulum swing back. It wasn't the wind that did in New Orleans during Katrina, it was its prior history of poor maintainance to...