Bob, the link that you provided here: http://en.wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png> .org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png and my...
I am getting a handle on this "only explanation" fallacy. Computer models represent a computable subset of (1) the total knowledge plus (2) the active...
I didn't get it either, but I recommend that you send it to http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/climatechangedebate/files/ That way it will be easier to find if...
Bruce, I'm sorry, it did come through for me, I had just read Arthur's reply where it didn't come through, but later reaqd your original. Anyway, I still...
There are several sun spot sites One of my favorites is www.sidc.oma.be and then click around to archives or graphics. They redesigned the site. - Al...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 1, 2008 3:14 pm
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David, The "problem" is that so many defenders of AGW insist that models, in general, are absolute science ... when in fact they are merely tools to be used...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 1, 2008 3:16 pm
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Very true, Al. But it is not just in climate science. I study the job ads in Science as part of my science-of-science research. They are full of ads for...
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Bob, I really thought that I had "broken the code." Sorry for the trouble. I just uploaded the three files to ClimateChange files as you suggested. I will try...
The problem with computer prognostications is that it's only as good as the person who enters the data. In the field of climate science the track record is not...
David, Just me talking, but I think that, yes, it is a universal problem. The last ten or fifteen years or so, it has been virtually impossible to get the...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 1, 2008 6:46 pm
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For some reason, this did not reappear after I sent it. I was upset because it has the story about the computer model I've been promising for YEARS. Finally...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 1, 2008 7:17 pm
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I don't think the long term prognostication models use the historical record. The simplest versions just double the CO2 level and find the new equillibrium...
Interesting story, Al. I am curious why they did not fix the model, after all that effort? However I see no connection to the subject issue, the computable...
Besides fixed budget, fixed due date for report. - Al...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 2, 2008 3:14 am
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So I take it the model worked well enough, despite failing to empty the airport properly. What was the model for? One shot models are unusual. The problem I...
Another issue with the model was that no one had any idea how to make specific changes to the model to improve it. The situation was one in which the B&B had...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 2, 2008 11:15 pm
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I was curious about the smoothing that created: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png I tried the various trend lines available in Excel...
The so-called sun spot cycle averages 11 years cut can actually range from 9 to 15 years. In addition, some say that the sun spot cycle is really 22 years and ...
Albert Masetti
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Nov 3, 2008 12:37 pm
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Thanks Al, I am interested. I should have some time later to check out www.albertmasetti.com and the Gerson Report. I think that the 22 years would probably...
Sounds like the model was basically and input-output reservoir model, perhaps with multiple reservoirs for various parts of the airport. Your problem may have...
A friend sent this to me with the comment "This is what you are up against." The prince seems to be mixing a couple of things in this item, but he has been...
Ian L. McQueen
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Nov 3, 2008 3:36 pm
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Ian, If the forests are logged and replanted, and the wood is used where it doesn't rot, then 'deforestation' doesn't increase CO2, but right now there are 10s...
David, The illustration I presented illustrates the problems with models in general. The model makers need to know everything about the thing they are modeling...
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