I don't disagree with your numbers Arthur, but the original point (and mine) was solar powered ships, not solar assisted hybrid day-tripping boats. But I agree...
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Albert Masetti
almasetti@...
Sep 1, 2009 11:30 am
Are we still talking about a "ship" that roars along at three (3) miles per hour? - Al...
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famstaff@...
Sep 1, 2009 12:00 pm
Along the same vein, I recall the "environmental disaster" predictions and "unknown climate implications" of the first Gulf War.... Greg On Tue, 01 Sep 2009...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 1:11 pm
To me its not about "going green" its about "saving green", as in money. It would appear that for the right water vehicles with the right requirements, one can...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 1:21 pm
There is nothing inherent in speed limitations for an electric powered boat. The one that was linked to cruises at 8 mph, and at that speed can operate for 8...
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Albert Masetti
almasetti@...
Sep 1, 2009 1:39 pm
There is an easy way to get there. Instead of direct diesel drives, convert to diesel electric. And install batteries. But then you add the huge cost of...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 2:10 pm
Arthur, I like electric boats, expecially if supplemented by PV power, but suggest instead of believing the exagerated claims of the link that was dumped here:...
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Ian L. McQueen
imcqueen@...
Sep 1, 2009 2:41 pm
In an early-morning newscast, when I was only partially awake, there was an item on the current World Climate Conference 3 ...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 2:53 pm
I never said it was cheap or easy to do, but then neither is the alternative. I think you are overly pessimistic on the costs. I've already got the 6.5 kw...
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 1, 2009 2:54 pm
Why a heavy diesel? Instead, a microturbine would work to spin a generator for electricity for an electric motor to power the boat. A microturbine wouldn't...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 3:19 pm
What exaggerated claims Bob? The original link shows the boat's specs, do you think they are lying, and if so to what purpose? The difference in the boat you...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 3:25 pm
Do you know of any affordable microturbines of the appropriate size? My Onan generator is water cooled and pretty quiet....
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 3:48 pm
Arthur, Yes, I think they are 'lying' about the performance, that is, they can't get the claimed performance with 60 people aboard. The link I gave is of a...
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 1, 2009 4:19 pm
Just Google "microturbine" and you'll find a lot of information on this subject. Also Google "micro turbine apu" Rich ... From: "ardoucette"...
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 1, 2009 4:24 pm
NYC is thinking of going microturbines for their buses. The mileage of their bus fleet could double using this technology. ...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 4:39 pm
Bruce wrote: "The trouble is they want to do ... Bruce, "Texas would see disposable household income reduced by $86 to $216 per year by 2020 and $612 to $1,103...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 4:48 pm
Capstone microturbines are about 60% as efficient as turbodiesels. If they double their bus mileage, it is because the previous hybrid was badly engineered to...
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 1, 2009 4:52 pm
The Dems are more than spineless... they're totally demoralized. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/08/31/climate-bill-delayed-and-in-disarray/ Rich ... From:...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 4:54 pm
Bob, As you know, the wetted area doesn't increase very much with increased weight, so I don't think you can say their figures are wrong just because you show...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 4:59 pm
Bob, Its not stated in the article, but I suspect the MPG improvements come from beginning the day with a fully charged battery pack using the grid, from lower...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 5:01 pm
I did, I just didn't find any for sale that seemed to be in the size range I'd need....
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m1aport@...
radesousa
Sep 1, 2009 5:18 pm
I think, with the exception of APUs for commercial aircraft, microturbines are still an infant technology for autos and small craft (boats). I believe Mazda is...
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David Fairthorne
david.fairth...
Sep 1, 2009 6:39 pm
The latest advertisement by repoweramerica.org suggests that "clean" energy will bring to the families of America a better environment, higher paid jobs and...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 7:05 pm
Careful about static metrics. Higher wages and lower gasoline prices seem good, but only in context with other costs and vehicle prices. In my view, you can't...
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Eugene Langschwager
langschwagere
Sep 1, 2009 7:40 pm
If nothing else, Krugman is passionate. It remains to be seen why we should believe scientists who admittedly exaggerated in the past, and to assume that we...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 8:09 pm
I wasted 10 minutes trying to find the plan at: http://www.repoweramerica.org/ It isn't here: http://www.repoweramerica.org/us/plan It seems to be more vague...
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ardoucette
Sep 1, 2009 8:23 pm
Bob, I don't think the Volt is PR. They plan on selling them in quantity, of course with Obama's pledge for "Half of all cars purchased by the federal...
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bobmagi@...
bobmaginnis
Sep 1, 2009 8:23 pm
Gene wrote: "One of his most interesting comments was that today's meteorologists rely almost exclusively on the computer models for the forecasts. No wonder...
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Eduardo Ferreyra
funarecomitos
Sep 1, 2009 8:27 pm
Gene, This is how Greenland would look like with no ice (according to the National Geographic magazine of several decades ago): Eduardo ... From: Eugene...
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Bruce Richardson
cbrtxus
Sep 1, 2009 9:22 pm
Sorry Bob, I just do not believe the $86.00. I think that is a mega-lowball figure. And this business of creating something for the next generation to figure...
